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  • @canton-mike said:

    I don't think I have ever been more pissed about a draft pick (MISS!) than Corey Coleman over Mike Thomas!!!  AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!

    I hate being reminded of that day.

    Mike

    More than the night the Browns traded up to take Johnny Football? 

    That was the night I almost became a Packers fan. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    More than the night the Browns traded up to take Johnny Football?

    As soon as it was announced that we'd traded up I said, "Oh Fuck!"

  • @dutch-oven said:

    More than the night the Browns traded up to take Johnny Football?

    As soon as it was announced that we'd traded up I said, "Oh Fuck!"

    @tour2ma said:

    As soon as it was announced that we'd traded up I said, "Oh Fuck!"

    With the first pick in the 2017 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns take from Texas A&M..............................

    With the first pick in the 2018 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns take from Oklahoma................................

    I think I'm cured now. ??

  • This rookie defense seems to be loaded. Greedy, Redwine, Wilson, Taki.. who knows which one will step in and make an impact.

  • On that drive and from the notes.

    - Kush your RG

    - Hilliard looks solid

    - Higgy is THE MAN.

  • Posted in the game day thread but Chad Thomas looked explosive with a QB pressures and a QB hit on one drive

  • Posted in the game day thread but Chad Thomas looked explosive with a QB pressures and a QB hit on one drive

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Posted in the game day thread but Chad Thomas looked explosive with a QB pressures and a QB hit on one drive

    Also something in camp that was evident in drills.  Didnt see it in 11's though. So that was a nice surprise.

  • This rookie defense seems to be loaded. Greedy, Redwine, Wilson, Taki.. who knows which one will step in and make an impact.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    This rookie defense seems to be loaded. Greedy, Redwine, Wilson, Taki.. who knows which one will step in and make an impact.

    It's Wilson. After watching his play I have no doubt. He was my hope for 3rd round pick and I could not believe he was still there for us in the 5th. STEAL! 

    Taki now has a lot to prove and that's a great motivator for real competitors.?

  • Warning: long winded post incoming.

    First and foremost, I just saw that this thread was near 2100 views.  Can't say enough on how much I appreciate you guys taking the time to read, digest and respond to my content.  It does, and will continue to mean, a great deal to me. 

    So I'm going to offer my thoughts on the pre-season games in this thread.  Aside from the random chime-ins during the regular season game threads, most of my work is going to be focused elsewhere.  (More on that later)

    Going to toot my own horn here just a little Buuuuuut - the early things I feel I hit on from my time at camp.

    - Kush/Kalis as the 1a 1b guards 

    - Higgins is and will be The Man.

    - Wanted early tempo for Baker. Got it right off rip with the opening drive. I didn't expect it to be THAT early.

    - Sans fumble Hilliard will reward the faith Dorsey has shown in him as a runner and pass catcher.

    - Callaway dropping down the depth chart

    - Chad Thomas.  Saw the potential in drills but he had a couple flashes last night.  Unexpected and refreshing.

    - Corbett is....  Well, who he is.

    - Chris Smith is making this roster.

    From last night: 

    Please, keep Guiseppi.  The way the team and the fans responded to him was special.  That's the kind of thing that bonds men in the locker room and endears the fans to the players.

    We need more net PR yards.  Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open.

    - Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    - Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    - Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    Wilks - won't confirm until Wednesday when the tape is out. But i feel like i saw a great deal of cover 4.  Felt Vic Fangio-esque. The Bears (now Denver) played a fair amount of pattern matching C4 from various looks.   If that is Wilks staple, then it explains the type of player our staff has targetted for safety. Converted corners such as Randall and Red wine.

    - Myles may actually kill a man on the field. Im not joking.  

    - Coley and Smith at 2nd team is what this team needs and shows the talent increase.   Our depth is finally shaping into NFL quality talent.

    - without seeing the tape, Greedy thought it was either cover 2 or 6 to his side as the roll/flat defender.   It wasn't and that's what you get - a rookie whose head is moving a mile a minute and still learning to make the calls second nature during live action.

    More on the defense when the coaches tape is available.

  • Warning: long winded post incoming.

    First and foremost, I just saw that this thread was near 2100 views.  Can't say enough on how much I appreciate you guys taking the time to read, digest and respond to my content.  It does, and will continue to mean, a great deal to me. 

    So I'm going to offer my thoughts on the pre-season games in this thread.  Aside from the random chime-ins during the regular season game threads, most of my work is going to be focused elsewhere.  (More on that later)

    Going to toot my own horn here just a little Buuuuuut - the early things I feel I hit on from my time at camp.

    - Kush/Kalis as the 1a 1b guards 

    - Higgins is and will be The Man.

    - Wanted early tempo for Baker. Got it right off rip with the opening drive. I didn't expect it to be THAT early.

    - Sans fumble Hilliard will reward the faith Dorsey has shown in him as a runner and pass catcher.

    - Callaway dropping down the depth chart

    - Chad Thomas.  Saw the potential in drills but he had a couple flashes last night.  Unexpected and refreshing.

    - Corbett is....  Well, who he is.

    - Chris Smith is making this roster.

    From last night: 

    Please, keep Guiseppi.  The way the team and the fans responded to him was special.  That's the kind of thing that bonds men in the locker room and endears the fans to the players.

    We need more net PR yards.  Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open.

    - Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    - Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    - Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    Wilks - won't confirm until Wednesday when the tape is out. But i feel like i saw a great deal of cover 4.  Felt Vic Fangio-esque. The Bears (now Denver) played a fair amount of pattern matching C4 from various looks.   If that is Wilks staple, then it explains the type of player our staff has targetted for safety. Converted corners such as Randall and Red wine.

    - Myles may actually kill a man on the field. Im not joking.  

    - Coley and Smith at 2nd team is what this team needs and shows the talent increase.   Our depth is finally shaping into NFL quality talent.

    - without seeing the tape, Greedy thought it was either cover 2 or 6 to his side as the roll/flat defender.   It wasn't and that's what you get - a rookie whose head is moving a mile a minute and still learning to make the calls second nature during live action.

    More on the defense when the coaches tape is available.

    @tiamat63 said:

    - Myles may actually kill a man on the field. Im not joking.  

    Honestly, right there at the beginning when he just blew by the tackle (who could only hold him lest get Keenum murdered) I just thought to myself "that's not fair". He's going to cost us a few off sides calls, but I feel you on this one. Very JJ Watt esque out there.

  • Warning: long winded post incoming.

    First and foremost, I just saw that this thread was near 2100 views.  Can't say enough on how much I appreciate you guys taking the time to read, digest and respond to my content.  It does, and will continue to mean, a great deal to me. 

    So I'm going to offer my thoughts on the pre-season games in this thread.  Aside from the random chime-ins during the regular season game threads, most of my work is going to be focused elsewhere.  (More on that later)

    Going to toot my own horn here just a little Buuuuuut - the early things I feel I hit on from my time at camp.

    - Kush/Kalis as the 1a 1b guards 

    - Higgins is and will be The Man.

    - Wanted early tempo for Baker. Got it right off rip with the opening drive. I didn't expect it to be THAT early.

    - Sans fumble Hilliard will reward the faith Dorsey has shown in him as a runner and pass catcher.

    - Callaway dropping down the depth chart

    - Chad Thomas.  Saw the potential in drills but he had a couple flashes last night.  Unexpected and refreshing.

    - Corbett is....  Well, who he is.

    - Chris Smith is making this roster.

    From last night: 

    Please, keep Guiseppi.  The way the team and the fans responded to him was special.  That's the kind of thing that bonds men in the locker room and endears the fans to the players.

    We need more net PR yards.  Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open.

    - Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    - Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    - Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    Wilks - won't confirm until Wednesday when the tape is out. But i feel like i saw a great deal of cover 4.  Felt Vic Fangio-esque. The Bears (now Denver) played a fair amount of pattern matching C4 from various looks.   If that is Wilks staple, then it explains the type of player our staff has targetted for safety. Converted corners such as Randall and Red wine.

    - Myles may actually kill a man on the field. Im not joking.  

    - Coley and Smith at 2nd team is what this team needs and shows the talent increase.   Our depth is finally shaping into NFL quality talent.

    - without seeing the tape, Greedy thought it was either cover 2 or 6 to his side as the roll/flat defender.   It wasn't and that's what you get - a rookie whose head is moving a mile a minute and still learning to make the calls second nature during live action.

    More on the defense when the coaches tape is available.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open

    so true remember how cribbs gave D.A great field position and actually made him look good ? just think what Guiseppi could do for a real QB

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open

    so true remember how cribbs gave D.A great field position and actually made him look good ? just think what Guiseppi could do for a real QB

    @atom said:

    so true remember how cribbs gave D.A great field position and actually made him look good ? just think what Guiseppi could do for a real QB

    Yeah & the absence of "block in the back" calls will help as well.

    Mike

  • It's Friday, so been listening to 70's funk (and for my dude Myles Garrett - a touch of Marvin Gaye) for the last couple hours while I try to go over this clip with a fine tooth comb.  Music always helped me focus. And if you can't get down to some Marvin, then we just can't be friends.      Anywho,  Coaches tape doesn't usually hit NFL.com until Wedesday and I'm excited.  So here's what I've got so far and the first drive was really everything I wanted it to be between what I saw at camp(s) and it translating to the field.

    @ 0:03 

    For those who have followed things I've spoken about, you'll remember my carrying on about Dorsey wanting players either speed or bigger bodied that provided YAC opportunities.  One of the big staples for this offense from last year, given the receiving abilities of our RB's, is the slant flat combo... mostly to the boundary.   I spoke about this at length.     Welp, the 2019 season is upon us, my friends.  Guess what Kitchens opened up with for Baker and tempo?      Exactly!      Instead of that being Jalen Strong running the X receiver, that's a much quicker ODB in regular season.    YAC, YAC, YAC.

    @ 0:08.    Just in this thread I said our ideal formation for 11 personnel is the gun trips trey with (depending on how the Brownies coaches label the spots) our Y and Z receivers being off the LOS.   I posted a sample look from the Vince Young Texas days.    I also said it works because Njoku working on his strength to get off the line means backers and safeties will think twice about getting into his face without chip help from the line.        Well...there it is.

    In that play sequence, I count Baker going through 3 reads.   Eyeing the seam and outside vertical from the bottom of the screen,  moving to Njoku, seeing the double on David and then understanding that the double means the zone underneath has been voided by the linebacker.    Finally hitting the outlet option with Chubb on the delay release.     This, Browns faithful, is good QB'ing.  Quick, decisive, smart.   Coming off the primary, to the secondary and then the third option as coverage has dictated.  All while drifting away from the edge defender that Robinson was working to ride out wide.  (Hubbard needs to watch that potential early flinch though)      For all the talk of ODB and Landry opening things up for Higgy and Njoku,  this is about the best example you're going to get of our TE's opening up the underneath, checkdowns and designed screen game for the RB's.    

    @ 0:30 

    Hubbard with, what should be, another false start.    Now I'm starting to worry about our RT situation.    But it is telling the amount of empty protections this coaching staff showed early.  They believe Baker can win with quick decisions, checks at the line, receivers winning the pattern and Bakers mobility.

    @0:46    The Throw. 

    For as brilliant as this play was, I'll be real... it's not something I want to see more of through the course of the grind that is a full football season.   Over the duration of what was a very quick drive, this verticals/divide and driving the ball downfield was the theme.   And this looks like cover 3 to my eye.  This is putting the safety - #30, in a hell of a bind.  Because he has to deal with helping down the seam on Njoku.   Something I mentioned this coaching staff looked to be big believers in during camp - attacking the seams with the bigger bodies.   He takes a few steps towards David only to see his leverage carrying him to the opposite hash, Higgy sees it and starts bending his route back inside.   It's an insane throw into a ridiculous window that requires a QB with the arm, ballsy enough to pull the trigger, and having a receiver he trusts that can elevate while shielding off the backside corner and protecting himself at the same time.       Hollywood takes a pretty big shot because of it.   In reality, the safety was beat the whole time.  The Oline held up nicely giving Baker a clean pocket, so moving forward what you're going to want is to allow the extra half second protection has afforded your QB, to give Rashard the time to square this route at the top and run it between the goal posts.

    It's a smarter, safer and less injury prone throw/catch combo.     A hell of a throw and catch, I grant them that.  There will be times these types of things will have to happen to secure a TD.  But you want to minimize that, especially in the pre-season where it simply doesn't count towards your record.  But that is the foundation work into perfecting that type of concept. The Mayfield/Hollywood connection scored there... imagine what it will look like in another month when the pace it just a touch better?   Good God... insanity.

  • Warning: long winded post incoming.

    First and foremost, I just saw that this thread was near 2100 views.  Can't say enough on how much I appreciate you guys taking the time to read, digest and respond to my content.  It does, and will continue to mean, a great deal to me. 

    So I'm going to offer my thoughts on the pre-season games in this thread.  Aside from the random chime-ins during the regular season game threads, most of my work is going to be focused elsewhere.  (More on that later)

    Going to toot my own horn here just a little Buuuuuut - the early things I feel I hit on from my time at camp.

    - Kush/Kalis as the 1a 1b guards 

    - Higgins is and will be The Man.

    - Wanted early tempo for Baker. Got it right off rip with the opening drive. I didn't expect it to be THAT early.

    - Sans fumble Hilliard will reward the faith Dorsey has shown in him as a runner and pass catcher.

    - Callaway dropping down the depth chart

    - Chad Thomas.  Saw the potential in drills but he had a couple flashes last night.  Unexpected and refreshing.

    - Corbett is....  Well, who he is.

    - Chris Smith is making this roster.

    From last night: 

    Please, keep Guiseppi.  The way the team and the fans responded to him was special.  That's the kind of thing that bonds men in the locker room and endears the fans to the players.

    We need more net PR yards.  Better field position leads to offensive production, helps setup easier situations for our still shakey kicking game and even the defense as well when we punt or have a turnover.  The rest of pre-season will be huge for the kid, but the door is open.

    - Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    - Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    - Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    Wilks - won't confirm until Wednesday when the tape is out. But i feel like i saw a great deal of cover 4.  Felt Vic Fangio-esque. The Bears (now Denver) played a fair amount of pattern matching C4 from various looks.   If that is Wilks staple, then it explains the type of player our staff has targetted for safety. Converted corners such as Randall and Red wine.

    - Myles may actually kill a man on the field. Im not joking.  

    - Coley and Smith at 2nd team is what this team needs and shows the talent increase.   Our depth is finally shaping into NFL quality talent.

    - without seeing the tape, Greedy thought it was either cover 2 or 6 to his side as the roll/flat defender.   It wasn't and that's what you get - a rookie whose head is moving a mile a minute and still learning to make the calls second nature during live action.

    More on the defense when the coaches tape is available.

    @tiamat63 said:

    A)- Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    B)- Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    C)- Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    A) being reported Callaway played through a high ankle sprain, happened sometime in 1st half..                                                                                                                                                                        B.) we get to see one of the best OL's at Colts this week..am willing wait, but..                                                                                                                                                                                                    C)Watch the angles that Mack takes to ball where Taki will sometimes guess the gap..Man has Wilson been pushing some iron..I don't remember him being that built up in crimson..nor the arm reach that am seeing..we might have stole a 5th..Mack with Schobert could get fun to watch                       

  • I was impressed with Lawrence. We'll see how he does over the next few games.

  • So my view wasn't the greatest at times, I arrived there a bit late.     Note to self and to you - get to the gates an hour before camp starts.  So not too much scribbling aside from the mental notes but what I have so far...

    - Greedy got some run with the 1's.  Didn't look out of place, but the knock on him at LSU was dealing with longer more physical receivers.   His trouble with Higgins at times vs the body of work vs Callaway, while not something I want to overblow, only feeds that mantra.   DB, more than anything, is a mindset.   But good news is, he battled while he was out there and didn't seemingly walk around like he had been defeated.

    - Can't speak enough about tempo.  Nevermind just getting the defense into a bad personnel grouping - it gets Baker where he needs to be in rhythm.  I'm hoping the Brownies use it a bit earlier in games as opposed to the medium or latter stages beyond the 2m drill.   Baker had those 3 early inc but once he got going he was decisive and accurate the whole day through.

    - The Redwine pick.  One of my knocks on him in film was his depth, angles of pursuit and field awareness.    Can't recall the specific game but I do remember one where he's playing middle 1/3 and retreats to the middle of the endzone, when the initial snap was from the 15.  Only to have the receiver catch the ball right in front of his face.    That's depth and awareness.  He showed better fundamentals and a good opening step when going for a pick today.    He will learn a great deal behind Randall.

    - Njoku looks stronger.    Specifically in his legs and lower body.   You can tell that boy has been putting in time with the S&C coaches.   Which is good because this coaching staff believes in using their big bodies down the seams and in the middle of the field.  I'm just hoping Baker is patient and smart when delivering the ball.

    - Back to Hollywood.     Can't say enough about this kid.  He's your 3rd receiver and you can take that to the bank.   Starts with the chemistry he has with Baker, then you toss in his route command and hands.   Very happy to have him with this team.   It will be Higgy and Landry that will be the one's the Ravens worry about dealing with the most this year.     Side note - aside from Balt.  I can't think of a secondary in the AFCN that has the ability to deal with our receivers.    Even then, while the Ravens have a very talented secondary, I'm still trying to picture how the matchups work.   But if you see Rashard draw Jimmy Smith, then you know the opposing coaches are paying him the respect he deserves.   Possibly the most slept on player of this offense not named Chubb.

    - Callaway's inconsistent hands are going to cost him, if they already haven't.       Hands, feet, eyes.  If you don't have all 3 then you won't stick as an NFL WR.   As I posted before, he's your 4th receiver and 5th in targets behind Odell, Landry, Higgy & Njoku.  Might even be 6th depending on the screen game and how Hunt's suspension fares.       He's slipping down the depth chart.   Worst part is, it's not like he is having a terrible camp.   But it goes back to one of my favorite words, consistency.  You have to be a reliable target.

    - Sibert has rookie struggles.   Problem is that when you struggle as a rookie kicker, it's incredibly difficult to get the job from the incumbent.    Greg should win the starting job based on being a bit more consistent and a veteran presence who has dealt with NFL pressure.

    - Dline owned straight sets.   I guess I shouldn't say "owned", but when Baker was dropping back without the use of ball action, he was doing so frequently pressured.   Credit to Baker for getting the ball out all of camp in the manner he did.  But eventually those pressures will turn into turnovers, sacks, incompletions etc etc.     A testament to our dline and a knock on our Oline.   Speaking of....

    - The RG spot.   I said it was Kush 1a and Kalis 1b.   While I'm 100% sure the battle comes down to them, that order may be a bit reversed.   Just watch closely preseason.  Corbett is finished at that spot save for depth as a swing man.   Unless he is getting C or RT looks, he's been soundly beaten by the vets above him.

    - 11 Personnel.   Really nothing more to say.  You're going to see this team utilize space in a way it hasn't done in a long time and they'll do so in a variety of ways.    One of the many formations I had gone over in my mind to best suite this teams style was the gun trey that I first remember being the staple of the Vince Young Longhorns.     Combined with Njoku looking stronger and more explosive down low... this would fit into the hands of our receiver strength in a similar mold to the 05 Horns personnel.        (Don't ask why that came to mind, it's a weird association that just did)

    - Hilliard.  He's more than just a 'serviceable' back.   The kid could start in a pinch and I wouldn't be scared.  He runs patient, smooth and determined.  As some would say a very 'intelligent' runner.  Kid made the most of his blocking and gained yards he line didn't even block for either.   Another home grown depth talent we can be secure with.

    - Coach Holcomb.  No, not Kelly Holcomb.  Our linebackers coach.  That man DOES NOT fuck around.   I don't know who's ear he got into when the 2's were on the field, but whoever it was learned what their mistake was reaaaaal fast.   

    - Chris Smith.  Was out there a ton.  Unless somebody took his number when I wasn't looking?   I still stick with my gut that he makes a roster spot.  The battle for the dline depth will get really interesting.   I still think it shakes out with the coaching staff biting nails over who they're cutting.  Quality bodies but only so many to keep.

    That's the mental stuff mostly.   Kept looking for a few players to stand out but either didn't see them make plays (Whitehead) or didn't see them out there period (Avery).

    @tiamat63 said:

    - 11 Personnel.   Really nothing more to say.  You're going to see this team utilize space in a way it hasn't done in a long time and they'll do so in a variety of ways.    

    Per PFF...

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  • It's Friday, so been listening to 70's funk (and for my dude Myles Garrett - a touch of Marvin Gaye) for the last couple hours while I try to go over this clip with a fine tooth comb.  Music always helped me focus. And if you can't get down to some Marvin, then we just can't be friends.      Anywho,  Coaches tape doesn't usually hit NFL.com until Wedesday and I'm excited.  So here's what I've got so far and the first drive was really everything I wanted it to be between what I saw at camp(s) and it translating to the field.

    @ 0:03 

    For those who have followed things I've spoken about, you'll remember my carrying on about Dorsey wanting players either speed or bigger bodied that provided YAC opportunities.  One of the big staples for this offense from last year, given the receiving abilities of our RB's, is the slant flat combo... mostly to the boundary.   I spoke about this at length.     Welp, the 2019 season is upon us, my friends.  Guess what Kitchens opened up with for Baker and tempo?      Exactly!      Instead of that being Jalen Strong running the X receiver, that's a much quicker ODB in regular season.    YAC, YAC, YAC.

    @ 0:08.    Just in this thread I said our ideal formation for 11 personnel is the gun trips trey with (depending on how the Brownies coaches label the spots) our Y and Z receivers being off the LOS.   I posted a sample look from the Vince Young Texas days.    I also said it works because Njoku working on his strength to get off the line means backers and safeties will think twice about getting into his face without chip help from the line.        Well...there it is.

    In that play sequence, I count Baker going through 3 reads.   Eyeing the seam and outside vertical from the bottom of the screen,  moving to Njoku, seeing the double on David and then understanding that the double means the zone underneath has been voided by the linebacker.    Finally hitting the outlet option with Chubb on the delay release.     This, Browns faithful, is good QB'ing.  Quick, decisive, smart.   Coming off the primary, to the secondary and then the third option as coverage has dictated.  All while drifting away from the edge defender that Robinson was working to ride out wide.  (Hubbard needs to watch that potential early flinch though)      For all the talk of ODB and Landry opening things up for Higgy and Njoku,  this is about the best example you're going to get of our TE's opening up the underneath, checkdowns and designed screen game for the RB's.    

    @ 0:30 

    Hubbard with, what should be, another false start.    Now I'm starting to worry about our RT situation.    But it is telling the amount of empty protections this coaching staff showed early.  They believe Baker can win with quick decisions, checks at the line, receivers winning the pattern and Bakers mobility.

    @0:46    The Throw. 

    For as brilliant as this play was, I'll be real... it's not something I want to see more of through the course of the grind that is a full football season.   Over the duration of what was a very quick drive, this verticals/divide and driving the ball downfield was the theme.   And this looks like cover 3 to my eye.  This is putting the safety - #30, in a hell of a bind.  Because he has to deal with helping down the seam on Njoku.   Something I mentioned this coaching staff looked to be big believers in during camp - attacking the seams with the bigger bodies.   He takes a few steps towards David only to see his leverage carrying him to the opposite hash, Higgy sees it and starts bending his route back inside.   It's an insane throw into a ridiculous window that requires a QB with the arm, ballsy enough to pull the trigger, and having a receiver he trusts that can elevate while shielding off the backside corner and protecting himself at the same time.       Hollywood takes a pretty big shot because of it.   In reality, the safety was beat the whole time.  The Oline held up nicely giving Baker a clean pocket, so moving forward what you're going to want is to allow the extra half second protection has afforded your QB, to give Rashard the time to square this route at the top and run it between the goal posts.

    It's a smarter, safer and less injury prone throw/catch combo.     A hell of a throw and catch, I grant them that.  There will be times these types of things will have to happen to secure a TD.  But you want to minimize that, especially in the pre-season where it simply doesn't count towards your record.  But that is the foundation work into perfecting that type of concept. The Mayfield/Hollywood connection scored there... imagine what it will look like in another month when the pace it just a touch better?   Good God... insanity.

    @tiamat63 said:

    They believe Baker can win with quick decisions, checks at the line, receivers winning the pattern and Bakers mobility.

    Ding Ding Ding!!! Baker is our OL's best friend.

    @tiamat63 said:

    And if you can't get down to some Marvin, then we just can't be friends. 

    Plus we need "The Ecology Song" now more than ever...

    EDIT: ... and never forget to mix in some Rev. Al Green...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    A)- Callaway either wasn't giving full stride when vertical or he has a tweaked hammy.  A couple nice sideline catches though. The almost TD probably would have been a TD had the initial call not be ruled incomplete.  But my concern with him will always be the concern I had with Corey Coleman... The routine catches.

    B)- Deveroe Lawrence.  That boy quick.  But don't get too excited.  The Skins Oline isnt very good and his sack was a complete bust in protection. When you get a back on a 290lb lineman, then somebody has fucked up somewhere.

    C)- Mack Wilson.  Good sideline to sideline range and feel for the route in front of him.  His eyes take him to the ball and he doesn't have much wasted motion or false steps. Not crowning him breakout but im excited for more.

    A) being reported Callaway played through a high ankle sprain, happened sometime in 1st half..                                                                                                                                                                        B.) we get to see one of the best OL's at Colts this week..am willing wait, but..                                                                                                                                                                                                    C)Watch the angles that Mack takes to ball where Taki will sometimes guess the gap..Man has Wilson been pushing some iron..I don't remember him being that built up in crimson..nor the arm reach that am seeing..we might have stole a 5th..Mack with Schobert could get fun to watch                       

    @gumby73 said:

    A) being reported Callaway played through a high ankle sprain, happened sometime in 1st half..                                                                                                                                                                        B.) we get to see one of the best OL's at Colts this week..am willing wait, but..                                                                                                                                                                                                    C)Watch the angles that Mack takes to ball where Taki will sometimes guess the gap..Man has Wilson been pushing some iron..I don't remember him being that built up in crimson..nor the arm reach that am seeing..we might have stole a 5th..Mack with Schobert could get fun to watch                       

    High Ankle is a bitch because they tend to linger.  That is far more of an issue than many believe.

    At this point, Taki is a situational player.  Mostly used for a specific role of either pressure or dropping with a pre-determined assignment.  The game is moving a bit too fast for him and you can almost see his head spin at times.

    Mack is a pretty big linebacker and his ability to track the RB, stay above the pick, jump while turning his hips and landing softly is beyond impressive.   A great athlete combined with a natural football player is a gift.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ding Ding Ding!!! Baker is our OL's best friend.

    Plus we need "The Ecology Song" now more than ever...

    EDIT: ... and never forget to mix in some Rev. Al Green...

    Baker and the running game should make them adequate for this year.  But eventually Hubbard will need to be addressed.

    Had some of The Rev in there.  You can't not* remind the people - just let us stay together. 

  • I was impressed with Lawrence. We'll see how he does over the next few games.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I was impressed with Lawrence. We'll see how he does over the next few games.

    so was i....however those were 2nd team reps. He was a nonfactor last year and that prob had something to do with jobi breaking down...staff didnt trust our rotation enough. The fact we tried to get mccoy and daniels should be a clear msg to the DT rotation that its time....