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  • interesting -

    Photo of Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Martin Sherk

    Position: DT-DE-NT

    6-4, 258lb (193cm, 117kg)

    Born: July 7, 1948 (Age: 71-022d) in Grants Pass, OR

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    interesting -

    Photo of Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Martin Sherk

    Position: DT-DE-NT

    6-4, 258lb (193cm, 117kg)

    Born: July 7, 1948 (Age: 71-022d) in Grants Pass, OR

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

  • @calfoxwc said:

    interesting -

    Photo of Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Martin Sherk

    Position: DT-DE-NT

    6-4, 258lb (193cm, 117kg)

    Born: July 7, 1948 (Age: 71-022d) in Grants Pass, OR

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

  • @calfoxwc said:

    interesting -

    Photo of Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Sherk

    Jerry Martin Sherk

    Position: DT-DE-NT

    6-4, 258lb (193cm, 117kg)

    Born: July 7, 1948 (Age: 71-022d) in Grants Pass, OR

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
    #26

    @hoorta said:

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    then you miss the interesting point. of COURSE the size of players is different/larger on the lines. Bob Golic was drafted as a lb by the Patriots, who ended up cutting him. The Browns signed him and moved him to NT. They were both wrestlers - very athletic and tough/durable.   

    Bob Golic

    Robert Perry Golic

    Position: NT-DT-LB-DE

    6-2, 264lb (188cm, 119kg)

    Born: October 26, 1957 (Age: 61-277d) in Cleveland, OH

    The FREAKING INTERESTING POINT is,

    Ogunjobi :

    also athletic:

    https://cci.uncc.edu/news/2019-02-18/alumni-spotlight-larry-ogunjobi

    "At 6’3” and more than 300lbs, with unusual quickness for a big man, Ogunjobi almost immediately established himself as a force on the football field "

    Therefore - Ogunjobi is bigger, but also very athletic - quick feet and balance.  He got a lot lighter, reformed his body shape, and is predicted.

    "Ogunjobi could be a breakout star for the Browns on the defensive line — at least that’s a sentiment his teammate, All-Pro and defensive line buddy Myles Garrett believes."

    *****************************************************

        The point is NOT that the players in Golic's and Sherk's day were smaller, but that with the increase in average size of players, Ogunjobi is very, very quick, and is now far more powerful with all his weight room work....

    Larry Ogunjobi voted most present in the weight room - 247Sports

     
    Jul 1, 2019 - When several players were asked to vote for the player that spends the most time in the weight room, defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi received ...

    he may very well fulfill Myles Garrett's prediction. And all three were/are very intense players, very, very smart. Sherk and Golic were smart players. Ogunjobi is a smart player.

    THAT IS WHAT IS INTERESTING.

    I didn't think I had to explain it....

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    I can only imagine the shenanigans that is calfox on the Politics board, based on that "explanation". 

  • EastSideDawgE EastSideDawg wrote on last edited by EastSideDawg
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    ok this thread is over see below this was 4 weeks ago ?

  • ok this thread is over see below this was 4 weeks ago ?

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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    @eastsidedawg said:

    ok this thread is over see below this was 4 weeks ago ?

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

  • @eastsidedawg said:

    ok this thread is over see below this was 4 weeks ago ?

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    I've been thinking the same for a while. I'm not sending any pictures, Clev 😛

  • @hoorta said:

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    @the-gipper said:

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    Nostalgia Gipper. Regarding Jim Brown. You watch those highlights, and tackling technique back then was atrocious compared to today. 

    No he's not, and wouldn't be. Freak of nature in his era, as Jim Thorpe was a few decades earlier. Nick Chubb is 5 pounds difference.   Bo Jackson was essentially the same player, and we know how that turned out. Bo supposedly ran a 4.2, and I seriously doubt Brown was any faster. Jim wouldn't be running over 300 pound DL either. There were maybe 3 (if that) in the entire NFL the years Brown played. He might be able to run around them, but he'd be running into linebackers that were every bit as big, or bigger than he was- and damn near as fast. Remember Jim's battles with Same Huff? Funny- one of the few LBs of the early 60s who was the same size as Brown. 

  • @hoorta said:

    I agree with Dutch. That was 40 years ago. Your current average weight of interior DL is around 305 pounds.  

    Reason why Jim Brown was so impressive- he was running over defensive linemen that didn't weigh much more than he did.  

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

  • @the-gipper said:

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    Nostalgia Gipper. Regarding Jim Brown. You watch those highlights, and tackling technique back then was atrocious compared to today. 

    No he's not, and wouldn't be. Freak of nature in his era, as Jim Thorpe was a few decades earlier. Nick Chubb is 5 pounds difference.   Bo Jackson was essentially the same player, and we know how that turned out. Bo supposedly ran a 4.2, and I seriously doubt Brown was any faster. Jim wouldn't be running over 300 pound DL either. There were maybe 3 (if that) in the entire NFL the years Brown played. He might be able to run around them, but he'd be running into linebackers that were every bit as big, or bigger than he was- and damn near as fast. Remember Jim's battles with Same Huff? Funny- one of the few LBs of the early 60s who was the same size as Brown. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Nostalgia Gipper. Regarding Jim Brown. You watch those highlights, and tackling technique back then was atrocious compared to today. 

    No he's not, and wouldn't be. Freak of nature in his era, as Jim Thorpe was a few decades earlier. Nick Chubb is 5 pounds difference.   Bo Jackson was essentially the same player, and we know how that turned out. Bo supposedly ran a 4.2, and I seriously doubt Brown was any faster. Jim wouldn't be running over 300 pound DL either. There were maybe 3 (if that) in the entire NFL the years Brown played. He might be able to run around them, but he'd be running into linebackers that were every bit as big, or bigger than he was- and damn near as fast. Remember Jim's battles with Same Huff? Funny- one of the few LBs of the early 60s who was the same size as Brown. 

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

  • @the-gipper said:

    That’s not the reason. He would be running over and around those 300 pounders today. He was bigger faster stronger than any running back playing today’s game

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #36

    @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    double-down jinx.

  • @hoorta said:

    Nostalgia Gipper. Regarding Jim Brown. You watch those highlights, and tackling technique back then was atrocious compared to today. 

    No he's not, and wouldn't be. Freak of nature in his era, as Jim Thorpe was a few decades earlier. Nick Chubb is 5 pounds difference.   Bo Jackson was essentially the same player, and we know how that turned out. Bo supposedly ran a 4.2, and I seriously doubt Brown was any faster. Jim wouldn't be running over 300 pound DL either. There were maybe 3 (if that) in the entire NFL the years Brown played. He might be able to run around them, but he'd be running into linebackers that were every bit as big, or bigger than he was- and damn near as fast. Remember Jim's battles with Same Huff? Funny- one of the few LBs of the early 60s who was the same size as Brown. 

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #38

    @the-gipper said:

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    not sure how a thread about jobi seemingly getting under DT weight is pressing the "gayzone".....but clevfan is not one to pass up an opportunity when its presented.

    So, as anyone who's played in the trenches can attest....u gotta have ass if ur gonna survive down there. Can we get Tiamat to surrepetitiously take pictures of jobi's backside for a definitive conclusion on whether he's lost too much weight? We're def creeping toward the deep end here but its for the "research". 

    When it comes to OL and DL....an old wiseman, circa 1992. said it best...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

    No I am not 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    He would as much as anyone today would 

  • @hoorta said:

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    @the-gipper said:

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition. 

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.