Sleeping on Ravens
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3 isn't a couple anywhere but your cell phone my man!
As much as I HATE saying this Gips, the Rats quietly re-loaded their 1st place roster extremely well. They've been re-loading playoff rosters with great success for years - it's why we still hate them. You know what happens when you forget to look out for #1? You step in #2.
Their RB position was weak last year - now it's a strength. Earl Thomas is a huge upgrade to their back tier. And when Baltimore gets back to extending drives and winning time of possession battles; that opens up a perfect play-action pass scenario to Marquise Brown against some very tired legs on defense.
You can say what you want to about Lamar Jackson; but check out their record before he cracked the starting line-up in 2018 vrs what it was when he started. He turned Joey Bottaflacco into Joey Botta-Onewayticketouttatown.
I disagree. again overall I think they are less talented now than last year. They lost too much talent too much leadership
I disagree. again overall I think they are less talented now than last year. They lost too much talent too much leadership
That's where quality leadership coaching and a steady franchise comes in. There can be such a thing as addition through subtraction. They survives losing Read, Lewis, etc. and still be a winning team. I think they will still be a good team losing the Suggs, etc. as well. We will see.
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There is more to the quality of a football team than just mere talent. With that thinking, Pitt is a far worse team because they don't have AB and Bell. Do you really think that's going to be the case? They will be a better team without those two idiots, even though both are very talented. Chemistry matters.
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It's the same mentality that pretends Henry will not be a force to recon with despite his second half of the season use by the Titans and an improved OL in the off-season.
Sweet Jesus you have a PoG-like obsession over Henry. ?
Sweet Jesus you have a PoG-like obsession over Henry. ?
Valdez is coming.?
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It's the same mentality that pretends Henry will not be a force to recon with despite his second half of the season use by the Titans and an improved OL in the off-season.
Why do you always bring up the boner you have for Henry where it is a totally non sequiter?
Why do you always bring up the boner you have for Henry where it is a totally non sequiter?
Oooooooooooooooo I love it when you talk lawyer.??
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No more ping pong Gips. It is what it is. Baltimore won the division last year after switching QBs and winning 6 of their last 7 regular season games.
You're not going to convince me Jackson had zero to do with their hot finish until you've convinced yourself of that; which you have yet to do.
They strengthened their offense with weapons like Ingram and Brown; while they upgraded the 32 year old Eric Weddle at Safety with the 29 year old Earl Thomas who made another Pro Bowl in 2017.
Sorry Tom.. But Balts defense carried his ass...
Sorry Tom.. But Balts defense carried his ass...
The same defense was only 4-5 when Flacco was their QB.
Then they went 6-1 when Jackson was their QB.
When Jackson took over - they surged up to #2 in Rushing. In the process, there was an article on December 5th stating since Jackson took over at QB the Ravens have led the NFL in time of possession (holding the ball an average of 37:20 per game). They weren't doing that w/Flacco and you know it. When their offense did this for their defense, their defense played with much fresher legs in the 22:40 duration they had to take the field. And when your defense only has to play 1/3 of the game - less yardage and points are yielded. That mattered way more than you and Gips seem to think it did.
Do I think Lamar Jackson is a good passer? No. But I do think he is a beyotch to catch on 3rd downs as many of his opponents learned.
If you think that same team was headed for 10-6 and playoffs with Flacco last year - you're sniffing the same glue Gipper got into today.
So, where are we as it pertains to the subject heading? The Division Champs were ranked #2 in rushing last year and they just added Mark Ingram. My guess is they liked how that time of possession formula worked in their favor on both sides of the ball so they want that success to continue. The best defense can be a good offense that keeps its defense seated 2/3 of the game.
Outside of Pittsburgh, there isn't a team I hate more than Baltimore so I'm FREAKIN done with this conversation.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
ravens gon be tuff sleddin....brace urselves for that. Defense is going to hafe to be rotated quite a bit. Which means 2nd tier players like smith, avery, davis. laurence...are gonna see alot of playin time.
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Sorry Tom.. But Balts defense carried his ass...
The same defense was only 4-5 when Flacco was their QB.
Then they went 6-1 when Jackson was their QB.
When Jackson took over - they surged up to #2 in Rushing. In the process, there was an article on December 5th stating since Jackson took over at QB the Ravens have led the NFL in time of possession (holding the ball an average of 37:20 per game). They weren't doing that w/Flacco and you know it. When their offense did this for their defense, their defense played with much fresher legs in the 22:40 duration they had to take the field. And when your defense only has to play 1/3 of the game - less yardage and points are yielded. That mattered way more than you and Gips seem to think it did.
Do I think Lamar Jackson is a good passer? No. But I do think he is a beyotch to catch on 3rd downs as many of his opponents learned.
If you think that same team was headed for 10-6 and playoffs with Flacco last year - you're sniffing the same glue Gipper got into today.
So, where are we as it pertains to the subject heading? The Division Champs were ranked #2 in rushing last year and they just added Mark Ingram. My guess is they liked how that time of possession formula worked in their favor on both sides of the ball so they want that success to continue. The best defense can be a good offense that keeps its defense seated 2/3 of the game.
Outside of Pittsburgh, there isn't a team I hate more than Baltimore so I'm FREAKIN done with this conversation.
The same defense was only 4-5 when Flacco was their QB.
Then they went 6-1 when Jackson was their QB.
When Jackson took over - they surged up to #2 in Rushing. In the process, there was an article on December 5th stating since Jackson took over at QB the Ravens have led the NFL in time of possession (holding the ball an average of 37:20 per game). They weren't doing that w/Flacco and you know it. When their offense did this for their defense, their defense played with much fresher legs in the 22:40 duration they had to take the field. And when your defense only has to play 1/3 of the game - less yardage and points are yielded. That mattered way more than you and Gips seem to think it did.
Do I think Lamar Jackson is a good passer? No. But I do think he is a beyotch to catch on 3rd downs as many of his opponents learned.
If you think that same team was headed for 10-6 and playoffs with Flacco last year - you're sniffing the same glue Gipper got into today.
So, where are we as it pertains to the subject heading? The Division Champs were ranked #2 in rushing last year and they just added Mark Ingram. My guess is they liked how that time of possession formula worked in their favor on both sides of the ball so they want that success to continue. The best defense can be a good offense that keeps its defense seated 2/3 of the game.
Outside of Pittsburgh, there isn't a team I hate more than Baltimore so I'm FREAKIN done with this conversation.
Tom... Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows they can't keep this up forever.. You can't be that one dimensional and expect to be consistent.. Defense will load the box and push him to the side where he has the least success.. Remember what Sam Rutigliano said... "There are no old running QB's in the NFL ' and it's true..... If Lamar doesnt become a better passer than he is.. His career will be a very short one.. Then the Ratbirds are back at Square one.. It could be that the team was tired of Flacco , knowing his Skills were diminishing.... Trust me.. That fake ass QB won't make it half the season...
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No more ping pong Gips. It is what it is. Baltimore won the division last year after switching QBs and winning 6 of their last 7 regular season games.
You're not going to convince me Jackson had zero to do with their hot finish until you've convinced yourself of that; which you have yet to do.
They strengthened their offense with weapons like Ingram and Brown; while they upgraded the 32 year old Eric Weddle at Safety with the 29 year old Earl Thomas who made another Pro Bowl in 2017.
No more ping pong Gips. It is what it is. Baltimore won the division last year after switching QBs and winning 6 of their last 7 regular season games.
You're not going to convince me Jackson had zero to do with their hot finish until you've convinced yourself of that; which you have yet to do.
They strengthened their offense with weapons like Ingram and Brown; while they upgraded the 32 year old Eric Weddle at Safety with the 29 year old Earl Thomas who made another Pro Bowl in 2017.
Baltimore was better with Jackson than with Flacco...sure. And sure he helped them with their finish...never denied that. But I certainly am NOT crowning his ass. He is in a fight for 3rd best QB in the division with Andy Dalton.
They probably are better at RB than they were last year....when, like I said, their best runner had all of 411 yards. They could have gotten better by signing a potted plant. Again...their RBs even with Ingram count as last as RB unit in the division.
And there is NO evidence, other than your apparent opinion about him that Marquise Brown can be even as good as John Brown. Baltimore's WR corps, again, ranks last in the division.
Every offensive unit of the Ravens is either last or next to the last in the division.
I believe their DL and LBs may be last in the division.
As for Weddle/Thomas.....It was Weddle who made the Pro Bowl last year. Not Thomas. It is Weddle who has played 16 games each of the last 3 seasons while Thomas was out injured. Some players play better longer. Thomas has been breaking down, Weddle has not. But Thomas will have more help than the rest of the Baltimore team...as the defensive backfield is likely the best in the division.
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No more ping pong Gips. It is what it is. Baltimore won the division last year after switching QBs and winning 6 of their last 7 regular season games.
You're not going to convince me Jackson had zero to do with their hot finish until you've convinced yourself of that; which you have yet to do.
They strengthened their offense with weapons like Ingram and Brown; while they upgraded the 32 year old Eric Weddle at Safety with the 29 year old Earl Thomas who made another Pro Bowl in 2017.
Baltimore was better with Jackson than with Flacco...sure. And sure he helped them with their finish...never denied that. But I certainly am NOT crowning his ass. He is in a fight for 3rd best QB in the division with Andy Dalton.
They probably are better at RB than they were last year....when, like I said, their best runner had all of 411 yards. They could have gotten better by signing a potted plant. Again...their RBs even with Ingram count as last as RB unit in the division.
And there is NO evidence, other than your apparent opinion about him that Marquise Brown can be even as good as John Brown. Baltimore's WR corps, again, ranks last in the division.
Every offensive unit of the Ravens is either last or next to the last in the division.
I believe their DL and LBs may be last in the division.
As for Weddle/Thomas.....It was Weddle who made the Pro Bowl last year. Not Thomas. It is Weddle who has played 16 games each of the last 3 seasons while Thomas was out injured. Some players play better longer. Thomas has been breaking down, Weddle has not. But Thomas will have more help than the rest of the Baltimore team...as the defensive backfield is likely the best in the division.
Baltimore was better with Jackson than with Flacco...sure. And sure he helped them with their finish...never denied that. But I certainly am NOT crowning his ass. He is in a fight for 3rd best QB in the division with Andy Dalton.
They probably are better at RB than they were last year....when, like I said, their best runner had all of 411 yards. They could have gotten better by signing a potted plant. Again...their RBs even with Ingram count as last as RB unit in the division.
And there is NO evidence, other than your apparent opinion about him that Marquise Brown can be even as good as John Brown. Baltimore's WR corps, again, ranks last in the division.
Every offensive unit of the Ravens is either last or next to the last in the division.
I believe their DL and LBs may be last in the division.
As for Weddle/Thomas.....It was Weddle who made the Pro Bowl last year. Not Thomas. It is Weddle who has played 16 games each of the last 3 seasons while Thomas was out injured. Some players play better longer. Thomas has been breaking down, Weddle has not. But Thomas will have more help than the rest of the Baltimore team...as the defensive backfield is likely the best in the division.
I'll take our backfield over Baltiwhores any day of the week...
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Baltimore was better with Jackson than with Flacco...sure. And sure he helped them with their finish...never denied that. But I certainly am NOT crowning his ass. He is in a fight for 3rd best QB in the division with Andy Dalton.
They probably are better at RB than they were last year....when, like I said, their best runner had all of 411 yards. They could have gotten better by signing a potted plant. Again...their RBs even with Ingram count as last as RB unit in the division.
And there is NO evidence, other than your apparent opinion about him that Marquise Brown can be even as good as John Brown. Baltimore's WR corps, again, ranks last in the division.
Every offensive unit of the Ravens is either last or next to the last in the division.
I believe their DL and LBs may be last in the division.
As for Weddle/Thomas.....It was Weddle who made the Pro Bowl last year. Not Thomas. It is Weddle who has played 16 games each of the last 3 seasons while Thomas was out injured. Some players play better longer. Thomas has been breaking down, Weddle has not. But Thomas will have more help than the rest of the Baltimore team...as the defensive backfield is likely the best in the division.
I'll take our backfield over Baltiwhores any day of the week...
I'll take our backfield over Baltiwhores any day of the week...
I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
Conner...Mixon/Giovani
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I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
Conner...Mixon/Giovani
I should've been more clearer and said "Our Secondary Backfield"
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
the ravens are going to be in the mix. they are going to be in alot of close games and due to the style they play a tough team to beat as long as jackson is healthy. if he is slowed for any reason ankle or knee issues they will be easy to defend.
the whole season rests on lamar's health.
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I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
Conner...Mixon/Giovani
I should've been more clearer and said "Our Secondary Backfield"
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I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers
To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers
I would tend to agree that Harbaugh does more with less talent than does Tomlin.....but the fact is...this year the Ravens DO have "less talent".
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the ravens are going to be in the mix. they are going to be in alot of close games and due to the style they play a tough team to beat as long as jackson is healthy. if he is slowed for any reason ankle or knee issues they will be easy to defend.
the whole season rests on lamar's health.
the ravens are going to be in the mix. they are going to be in alot of close games and due to the style they play a tough team to beat as long as jackson is healthy. if he is slowed for any reason ankle or knee issues they will be easy to defend.
the whole season rests on lamar's health.
Well....also, the one thing I have said is that the Ravens have the best kicker in the division with Tucker. And, again, no on said that they would not be tough and not be in the mix. But they have an overall downgrade in talent from last year. Just the loss of CJ Mosley accomplishes that, aside from their other losses.
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another note the ravens open with Miami and Arizona so they are probably starting 2-0.
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The same defense was only 4-5 when Flacco was their QB.
Then they went 6-1 when Jackson was their QB.
When Jackson took over - they surged up to #2 in Rushing. In the process, there was an article on December 5th stating since Jackson took over at QB the Ravens have led the NFL in time of possession (holding the ball an average of 37:20 per game). They weren't doing that w/Flacco and you know it. When their offense did this for their defense, their defense played with much fresher legs in the 22:40 duration they had to take the field. And when your defense only has to play 1/3 of the game - less yardage and points are yielded. That mattered way more than you and Gips seem to think it did.
Do I think Lamar Jackson is a good passer? No. But I do think he is a beyotch to catch on 3rd downs as many of his opponents learned.
If you think that same team was headed for 10-6 and playoffs with Flacco last year - you're sniffing the same glue Gipper got into today.
So, where are we as it pertains to the subject heading? The Division Champs were ranked #2 in rushing last year and they just added Mark Ingram. My guess is they liked how that time of possession formula worked in their favor on both sides of the ball so they want that success to continue. The best defense can be a good offense that keeps its defense seated 2/3 of the game.
Outside of Pittsburgh, there isn't a team I hate more than Baltimore so I'm FREAKIN done with this conversation.
Tom... Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows they can't keep this up forever.. You can't be that one dimensional and expect to be consistent.. Defense will load the box and push him to the side where he has the least success.. Remember what Sam Rutigliano said... "There are no old running QB's in the NFL ' and it's true..... If Lamar doesnt become a better passer than he is.. His career will be a very short one.. Then the Ratbirds are back at Square one.. It could be that the team was tired of Flacco , knowing his Skills were diminishing.... Trust me.. That fake ass QB won't make it half the season...
Tom... Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows they can't keep this up forever.. You can't be that one dimensional and expect to be consistent.. Defense will load the box and push him to the side where he has the least success.. Remember what Sam Rutigliano said... "There are no old running QB's in the NFL ' and it's true..... If Lamar doesnt become a better passer than he is.. His career will be a very short one.. Then the Ratbirds are back at Square one.. It could be that the team was tired of Flacco , knowing his Skills were diminishing.... Trust me.. That fake ass QB won't make it half the season...
IDK, Vick lasted pretty long in the NFL, even having missed a few years over the dog crimes. AND, Vick even admitted he did almost no studying and had a bad work ethic. Jackson seems to be better in that area. I also am not sold on the "super athletic" QBs who can't become a pocket passer. But Steve Young did make the transition. And I'd have to say Randall Cunningham did too (i.e his days in MN). Regardless, even if LJ won't make the transformation to becoming more of a passer and there are "no old running QBs," LJ isn't old now, and won't become old this season either.
If he doesn't pick up his passing game, teams will gameplan to slow him down (see the Chargers, although he almost came back in that game). But I believe their mauling power rushing and OL play and always stout defense will still win them some games and make them a contender. Even with all the rule changes and interpretations to help passing games, this is still a physical biz, and teams can still win on being very physical, which Balt. still is.
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I would take the backfield of the Bengals and Steelers over Shiteating birds.
To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers
To you and to others..who do we think does more with less talent from the coaching side? John Harbaugh or Tomlin? Harbaugh seems more gameplan prepared than others imo.. individual players taped up I lean towards Harbaugh also..I want to see what John does with some missing pieces now on that defense..we may get our answers
It's not even close. Hairball owns Tomlin in almost every phase. All Tomlin has is catchy quips and virtually nothing else. By all reports, he let that team turn into a clown show, with idiots like AB doing whatever they wanted. I'd take Hairball 100 out of 100 times.
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