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Possibility for HOF

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  • Zombo said:

    It's a team sport.

    And the differences aren't minor.

    Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl, but it doesn't make him as good as Phillip Rivers, it just doesn't. 

    Eli is basically Joe Flacco with two rings instead of one. His longevity, durability and two amazing postseason runs will get him in the Hall. But he's not as good a QB as Rivers.

    Z

    Winning still counts. Someone here claimed that Bart Starr wasn’t all that good of a quarterback because his numbers weren’t quite as good. Does anyone want to contend that Bart Starr was not as good a quarterback is Philip Rivers?

  • 1. Russell Wilson--------------------------------yes

    2. Jimmy Garrapolo---------------------------no

    3. Derek Carr-------------------------------------no

    4. Phillip Rivers--------------------------------yes

    5. Jared Goff-----------------------------------yes

    6. Kyler Murray--------------------------------total bust

    7. Joe Flacco----------------------------------no

    8. Dak Prescott------------------------------definite maybe

    9. DeShaun Watson----------------------no

    10. Kirk Cousins---------------------------no

    11. Patick Mahomes--------------------yes

    12. Drew Brees-----------------------------tie for first yes with Brady

    13. Aaron Rodgers-----------------------yes

    14. Mitch Trubisky-----------------------no

    15. Matt Stafford-------------------------no

    16. Andrew Luck/Jacoby Brissquet-no

    17. Baker Mayfield----------------------turn the Browns into yearly playoff contenders would do the trick

    18. Andy Dalton---------------------------LOLOLOLOL

    19. Marcus Mariota----------------------ditto

    20. Matt Ryan-------------------------------only a SB win would do it

    21. Nick Foles--------------------------------no

    22. Jameis Winston-----------------------nope

    23. Ryan Fitzpatrick/Josh Rosen--ditto

    24. Cam Newton-----------------------------no

    25. Case Keenum---------------------------lol

    26. Lamar Jackson-------------------------no

    27. Ben Roethlisberger--------------------yes

    28. Carson Wentz----------------------------no

    29. Josh Allen---------------------------------tied for LOLOLOLOL with Dalton

    30. Sam Darnold------------------------------just maybe-see Baker Mayfield

    31. Eli Manning--------------------------------big brother wins the lobby effect

    32. Tom Brady---------------------------------see Brees

  • Zombo said:

    I have great respect for Bart Starr, my point is simply that Philip Rivers is a better QB than Eli Manning, and you don't have to go back in history to prove it, their careers are right in front of us.

    Rivers also has a higher winning % than Manning, who is two games over .500 and will probably be a .500 career qb by week three.

    He had two great postseason runs. With the help of some circus catches and a relentless pass rush.

    Good, durable, reliable Qb that made some history. Not a great QB, and not as good as Rivers. Or Ben. He was easily the third best QB in that draft.

    Z

    OK, well, you are entitled to be wrong once in a while. 

  • They will both get in....so it is really superfluous. The question is:  who retires first?

    The Giants really, imo, have become a bad organization in the last few years and that has hurt Eli's  win pct.    I think Eli should go somewhere else? (maybe Indy).   I mean, Johnny U. did it, Joe Namath did it. Joe Montana did it. 

  • Zombo said:

    He's going to walk away a Giant for life. If the season goes South he'll be replaced by Jones and that will be the end.

    As I mentioned earlier, the Chargers are looking to work out a new contract with Rivers and have not drafted his replacement yet, he is still at the top of his game.

    Z

    That's a theory.  We shall see.  Peyton got the hell out of Dodge in Indy and went elsewhere even after major injuries.   Eli could do the same....and not have the injuries.

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