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  • He looks like he needs to get stronger, he lets Kampman get into his chest and redirect him instead of using his arms and hands to keep him away from his body so he still has leverage. I don't no if he has short arms or he just isn't strong enough. His feet looked quick enough, its just at first contact he's the one getting redirected instead of the defensive player. Also it would probably help to get a chip from a TE or RB once in a while. It was just him one on one every play againt one of the better pass rushers in the league.

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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  • Which one is Foster? RT, LT?

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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  • can tucker call the blocking assignments (assuming he's at RG)?

    without fraley, someone needs to step up there.

  • V Vegasdogg

    Which one is Foster? RT, LT?

    @vegasdogg said:

    Which one is Foster? RT, LT?

    RT, #72

  • Ok couple things:

    1 - Foster was getting owned the first half. Running out of gas, being pushed into the ground several times, not getting low/leverage, and getting beat around the edge.

    2 - Detroit sucked. They were down 21-0 and kept passing the ball, allowing Kampman (a very good pass rusher) to tee off and get after the QB.

    3 - Foster is not the RT to have if you need to pass a lot in those situations, at least he wasn't in this game. Is it technique or heart? I don't know.

    4 - He seemed to run block very well.

    5 - Give me a RT next season and move this guy to guard, and maybe that solves his problems.

    But that half was silly. He should have been sat down. Did he quit or run out of gas? I don't know, but one is almost as bad as the other - I don't like quitters, and running out of gas means you're a fatass out of shape NFL player.

    We'll see. I do think I have to re-evaluate him @ RT but this was one game and it is the Lions.

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley

  • These are really the only two setups I'd really be comfortable with, and it hinges upon whether we think Hadnot or St. Clair is the least weak of the weak links. I think Foster and Poke Chop are destined for the bench, with Hadnot or St. Clair joining them.

    This is a pretty deep line...Tucker's flexibility helps us greatly.

    LT Thomas

    LG Steinbach

    C Mack

    RG Hadnot

    RT Tucker

    OR

    LT Thomas

    LG Steinbach

    C Mack

    RG Tucker

    RT St. Clair

  • There is no comparison between Hadnot and Tucker, if Tucker is healthy. At present, he is 100% so the RG job is his and it was the reason Hadnot was backing up Steinbach and center in minicamp. I never was real impressed with Foster and think the job is St Clair's to lose. The only way Hadnot starts at RG is if Tucker gets hurt or neither St Clair or Foster can man the RT job. The Browns don't want to put Tucker at RT unless they really have to. You move him to RT and you have two spots that are not positions of strength. With Tucker at RG the OL is solid with the only question being RT which can be given some help in 3rd and long situations.

    I just don't understand the fascination with a very average guy like Hadnot. He certainly isn't in Tucker's class.

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  • Regardless of where Tucker lines up, this line will be a great one. Without Tucker, it's a good one.

    Translation: We really need Tuck to stay healthy in order for our line to be consistently good across the board. My money says it's Tuck at RG and St. Clair at RT which means there is no excuse for Jamal to not have over 4 yards a carry.

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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    He looks like he needs to get stronger, he lets Kampman get into his chest and redirect him instead of using his arms and hands to keep him away from his body so he still has leverage. I don't no if he has short arms or he just isn't strong enough. His feet looked quick enough, its just at first contact he's the one getting redirected instead of the defensive player. Also it would probably help to get a chip from a TE or RB once in a while. It was just him one on one every play againt one of the better pass rushers in the league.

    nmills said:

    He looks like he needs to get stronger, he lets Kampman get into his chest and redirect him instead of using his arms and hands to keep him away from his body so he still has leverage. I don't no if he has short arms or he just isn't strong enough. His feet looked quick enough, its just at first contact he's the one getting redirected instead of the defensive player. Also it would probably help to get a chip from a TE or RB once in a while. It was just him one on one every play againt one of the better pass rushers in the league.

    I agree completely.

    It looks like Foster gets into position well and then instead of trying to gain control he just waits for the other guys move and usually gets beat.

    I think he has good feet and if he was more aggressive against the pass rush he could be all right.

    I also think though that right now he is our third option if not fourth but I think he can ne at least a serviceable backup.

  • Y YtownBrownsBacker

    There is no comparison between Hadnot and Tucker, if Tucker is healthy. At present, he is 100% so the RG job is his and it was the reason Hadnot was backing up Steinbach and center in minicamp. I never was real impressed with Foster and think the job is St Clair's to lose. The only way Hadnot starts at RG is if Tucker gets hurt or neither St Clair or Foster can man the RT job. The Browns don't want to put Tucker at RT unless they really have to. You move him to RT and you have two spots that are not positions of strength. With Tucker at RG the OL is solid with the only question being RT which can be given some help in 3rd and long situations.

    I just don't understand the fascination with a very average guy like Hadnot. He certainly isn't in Tucker's class.

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    I just don't understand the fascination with a very average guy like Hadnot. He certainly isn't in Tucker's class.

    No he isn't, but he may be less of a weak link than St. Clair or Foster (who just stinks).

    But you're right. We're probably best off with Tucker at RG, where he could really excel, than at RT where he would be average.

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