Prepare for a stinker...
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Why are you rubbing Gip's nose in that?
And could you do it some more?
Yup... took three snaps total in all four games... and handed it off three times.
Not exactly sharpening the saw there...
FYI four starting QBs took zero snaps: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.
You could the effects in Rodgers game as well... especially early.
In defense of Gipper, I was pretty high on Mitch- but not at #1. Looks like another Hoorta big QB screw up.
Let's not forget Mr.Knowitall (the banned guy) knew Mitch was going to go high. That was revisionist history. If Hue truly didn't want Trubisky, it was one of the very few things he ever got right.
In defense of Gipper, I was pretty high on Mitch- but not at #1. Looks like another Hoorta big QB screw up.
Let's not forget Mr.Knowitall (the banned guy) knew Mitch was going to go high. That was revisionist history. If Hue truly didn't want Trubisky, it was one of the very few things he ever got right.
I’ve been away for a while. Who got banned?
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In defense of Gipper, I was pretty high on Mitch- but not at #1. Looks like another Hoorta big QB screw up.
Let's not forget Mr.Knowitall (the banned guy) knew Mitch was going to go high. That was revisionist history. If Hue truly didn't want Trubisky, it was one of the very few things he ever got right.
I’ve been away for a while. Who got banned?
I’ve been away for a while. Who got banned?
We're not even going to name him. Let's just say it's a lot more peaceful around here now that we don't have to put up with his BS. Hint- has been kicked off of every football Board he's ever posted on.
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I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
Get rid of pre-season and it makes more sense.;
Get rid of pre-season and it makes more sense.;
It's hard now to decide who makes the roster and practice squad you need at least three better yet four preseason games and leave it with 16 games and a week 4-12 bye. If your star players sit out most of it so be it.
Owners want mo' money at the expense of the players health and watering down the NFL product itself.
July 13
glad you’re joyinghttps://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/13/nfl-players-union-rejects-latest-proposal-game-season The Washington Post. You’re almost out of free articles. Already a subscriNFL players’ union rejects latest proposal for 18-game seasonNFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and the league's franchise owners have proposed expanding the regular season to 18 games. (LM Otero, File)July 13By Jacob BogageThe leader of the NFL Players Association shot down a proposal from league owners this week to expand the regular season to 18 games, a sign that both sides remain diametrically opposed to what will be one of the linchpin issues in the league’s next labor deal.
DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA’s executive director, told ESPN on Friday, “I don’t see an 18-game schedule — under any circumstance — being in the best interest of our players.”
Owners suggested lengthening the season by two games, but capping players’ participation to only 16 of them to conform to the union’s player-safety concerns about a longer season and owners’ salary concerns about paying out two extra game checks.
The Wall Street Journal first reported, and Smith later confirmed, the proposal, which the league brought up during negotiations for the next collective bargaining agreement. The current CBA expires before the 2021 season.......... CONTINUED IN LINK.......
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I personally think that the future of tackle football in America is an issue here along with the dollars and viewership numbers.
From the article....
......That’s crucial, according to NFLPA estimates, because the average NFL career is 3.4 years but would drop to 2.8 years with two more games each season. The minimum required service time for players to receive a pension and long-term health benefits is three years.
“Fans and media discuss what would happen to ratings and revenue or whether [18 games] is a good idea or bad idea. For us, it comes down to who players are as men, and is it good for us,”........ READ IT......
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Believe anything Hue says at your own peril...
Owners are going to make a big push for it in the new CBA.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Playoff teams that go deep only represent a small number of all of the teams like my YSU Penguins that play a lot of games and it can be tough on the players.
But they are glad to be there.
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Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Playoff teams that go deep only represent a small number of all of the teams like my YSU Penguins that play a lot of games and it can be tough on the players.
But they are glad to be there.
Playoff teams that go deep only represent a small number of all of the teams like my YSU Penguins that play a lot of games and it can be tough on the players.
But they are glad to be there.
Pretty sure I knew that, but what I don't know is if those that play the added games suffer a proportional... or greater... increase in injuries.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Playoff teams that go deep only represent a small number of all of the teams like my YSU Penguins that play a lot of games and it can be tough on the players.
But they are glad to be there.
Pretty sure I knew that, but what I don't know is if those that play the added games suffer a proportional... or greater... increase in injuries.
Pretty sure I knew that, but what I don't know is if those that play the added games suffer a proportional... or greater... increase in injuries.
Hard to say 100% for sure but I knew YSU guys that were really hurt and still played some particularly quarterbacks took a beating.
Tressel went to 6 NC games in the 1990s won 4 with YSU, Pelini in year 2 went to the NC game and as underdogs lost.
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I wonder what's causing my hesitation about this game tomorrow. I already predicted a Browns win of something like 27-17, but I keep having these niggling doubts creeping in my mind, and I wonder if it's because of our history, or if it's because Tennessee really is that good. I mean, they had a winning record 3 straight years. They're very good against the pass. They like to run the ball, and we were not great at stopping it last year.
I keep thinking, can ANYONE live up to the impossible hype surrounding our team? Maybe it's because I can JUST see the headlines if we lose. "Browns hype train derails as they historically lose another opener after game-winning kick goes awry." The pressure for this team to come out and win is enormous, and I don't know if if you've seen who we play the first 8 games, but it's serious.
But you know what? Win or lose, I still think we have the goods for a fun season. We need some luck on the injury bug front, but we can't control that. Browns fans have a unique relationship with opening day, and by unique I mean, "Holy shit I hate football." People who say things like, "This year is different. These players don't have anything to do with those other teams" are crazy and misinformed. If you don't believe our team has to overcome history, then you're bananas. We very much DO, and it's a real and tangible adversary.
Take last year's tie for example. How MANY times did we have to win that game? Schobert could've taken that pic to the house and ended it. Genard Avery (I THINK) didn't turn around and make one block as he prematurely celebrated the touchdown that never happened. THEN, our best player Myles Garrett inexplicably drills a Steeler in the back directly in front of an official, so we lose more yards. THEN, our FG attempt gets blocked and we freaking TIE a game where we forced 37 turnovers.
What's this have to do with tomorrow? Nothing? Everything? Well, the Ghost of Dwayne Rudd will be there, and our team better be ready for the impending collection "WTF Plays" that seem to occur on game 1 of the Browns' schedule. I've got the Sunday Ticket ordered, the wings marinating for grilling, and the beer chilled to the bone. Can't wait, no matter what happens!. *WOOF WOOF*
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I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Not for the playoff teams...
Hell... our HS State Champs played 16 last year... 16-0 baybeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Longview? You know their senior QB committed to A&M mid-July?
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It's very hard to predict the first game of the season. In my FFL I have Rivers at home against the "Luck"less Colts or Brees at home against Houston's D. Which one would you play this week?
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Longview? You know their senior QB committed to A&M mid-July?
Maybe.... and "yes"...
The kid's a stick, but he's tall and the HC's son and can read a D. He's in ESPN's Top 100... he's #80-something.
Too bad TAMU doesn't have him today.
BTW... the Lobos made last week's ESPN HS game-of-the-week broadcast and narrowly beat Lufkin 24-21. They're now 2-0 after trouncing Marshall 53-0 this past Friday.
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Believe anything Hue says at your own peril...
Owners are going to make a big push for it in the new CBA.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
$$&$
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It's very hard to predict the first game of the season. In my FFL I have Rivers at home against the "Luck"less Colts or Brees at home against Houston's D. Which one would you play this week?
It's very hard to predict the first game of the season. In my FFL I have Rivers at home against the "Luck"less Colts or Brees at home against Houston's D. Which one would you play this week?
I would have to play Brees...too many weapons to ignore.
Mike
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It's very hard to predict the first game of the season. In my FFL I have Rivers at home against the "Luck"less Colts or Brees at home against Houston's D. Which one would you play this week?
I would have to play Brees...too many weapons to ignore.
Mike
I would have to play Brees...too many weapons to ignore.
Agree... plus very quietly the Colts have assembled quite a D at all three levels while the Texans are now Clowney-less up front and are suspect in the 2ndary.
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I wonder what's causing my hesitation about this game tomorrow. I already predicted a Browns win of something like 27-17, but I keep having these niggling doubts creeping in my mind, and I wonder if it's because of our history, or if it's because Tennessee really is that good. I mean, they had a winning record 3 straight years. They're very good against the pass. They like to run the ball, and we were not great at stopping it last year.
I keep thinking, can ANYONE live up to the impossible hype surrounding our team? Maybe it's because I can JUST see the headlines if we lose. "Browns hype train derails as they historically lose another opener after game-winning kick goes awry." The pressure for this team to come out and win is enormous, and I don't know if if you've seen who we play the first 8 games, but it's serious.
But you know what? Win or lose, I still think we have the goods for a fun season. We need some luck on the injury bug front, but we can't control that. Browns fans have a unique relationship with opening day, and by unique I mean, "Holy shit I hate football." People who say things like, "This year is different. These players don't have anything to do with those other teams" are crazy and misinformed. If you don't believe our team has to overcome history, then you're bananas. We very much DO, and it's a real and tangible adversary.
Take last year's tie for example. How MANY times did we have to win that game? Schobert could've taken that pic to the house and ended it. Genard Avery (I THINK) didn't turn around and make one block as he prematurely celebrated the touchdown that never happened. THEN, our best player Myles Garrett inexplicably drills a Steeler in the back directly in front of an official, so we lose more yards. THEN, our FG attempt gets blocked and we freaking TIE a game where we forced 37 turnovers.
What's this have to do with tomorrow? Nothing? Everything? Well, the Ghost of Dwayne Rudd will be there, and our team better be ready for the impending collection "WTF Plays" that seem to occur on game 1 of the Browns' schedule. I've got the Sunday Ticket ordered, the wings marinating for grilling, and the beer chilled to the bone. Can't wait, no matter what happens!. *WOOF WOOF*
I wonder what's causing my hesitation about this game tomorrow. I already predicted a Browns win of something like 27-17, but I keep having these niggling doubts creeping in my mind, and I wonder if it's because of our history, or if it's because Tennessee really is that good. I mean, they had a winning record 3 straight years. They're very good against the pass. They like to run the ball, and we were not great at stopping it last year.
I keep thinking, can ANYONE live up to the impossible hype surrounding our team? Maybe it's because I can JUST see the headlines if we lose. "Browns hype train derails as they historically lose another opener after game-winning kick goes awry." The pressure for this team to come out and win is enormous, and I don't know if if you've seen who we play the first 8 games, but it's serious.
But you know what? Win or lose, I still think we have the goods for a fun season. We need some luck on the injury bug front, but we can't control that. Browns fans have a unique relationship with opening day, and by unique I mean, "Holy shit I hate football." People who say things like, "This year is different. These players don't have anything to do with those other teams" are crazy and misinformed. If you don't believe our team has to overcome history, then you're bananas. We very much DO, and it's a real and tangible adversary.
Take last year's tie for example. How MANY times did we have to win that game? Schobert could've taken that pic to the house and ended it. Genard Avery (I THINK) didn't turn around and make one block as he prematurely celebrated the touchdown that never happened. THEN, our best player Myles Garrett inexplicably drills a Steeler in the back directly in front of an official, so we lose more yards. THEN, our FG attempt gets blocked and we freaking TIE a game where we forced 37 turnovers.
What's this have to do with tomorrow? Nothing? Everything? Well, the Ghost of Dwayne Rudd will be there, and our team better be ready for the impending collection "WTF Plays" that seem to occur on game 1 of the Browns' schedule. I've got the Sunday Ticket ordered, the wings marinating for grilling, and the beer chilled to the bone. Can't wait, no matter what happens!. *WOOF WOOF*
Solution? Party so much at the Tailgate, you won't much care.... Actually I will. It's different this year. We don't just HOPE to win, we EXPECT to win. If we don't, it's not going to be pretty down by the Lake.
BTW, If Goodell has a bone left in his spine, he'll block AB going to the Patriots. The whole thing reeks of a fix. How could you have this move arranged almost instantly after being cut?
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It's very hard to predict the first game of the season. In my FFL I have Rivers at home against the "Luck"less Colts or Brees at home against Houston's D. Which one would you play this week?
I would have to play Brees...too many weapons to ignore.
Mike
I would have to play Brees...too many weapons to ignore.
Mike
Agree... plus very quietly the Colts have assembled quite a D at all three levels while the Texans are now Clowney-less up front and are suspect in the 2ndary.
My only reservation is that Rivers got his redzone target back from missing all last season, TE Hunter Henry. I have him on my team so maybe the ideal is to play him as TE and Brees as the QB. Since Ingram is no longer there Brees may have to throw more to give Kamara some rest.
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If last nights game was any indication...20 penalties...Not a very good game.
With fewer veterans seeing much of the field in preseason...it will show.
On a good note...travis henry hasnt taken a hit since last year...i predict 2 fumbles.
But the quality of these early season across the league. (I would bet the unders for a few weeks) games has been horrible with the lack of preseason prep. I look for the trend to continue.
Agree... as I wrote in 'cube's "And so it begins..." thread last nite showed that Week 1 is now the preseason... at least for teams whose stars saw precious little PT in the real pre-...
Does make a case for reducing the preseason to two games and expanding the regular to 18 games.
Agree... as I wrote in 'cube's "And so it begins..." thread last nite showed that Week 1 is now the preseason... at least for teams whose stars saw precious little PT in the real pre-...
Does make a case for reducing the preseason to two games and expanding the regular to 18 games.
Only problem with reducing preseason to two games is time to evaluate players. I'm not sure there will be ample time to get a true player evaluation. Perhaps with three games, but not with two. The last game with mostly rookies is very important, even though we don't want to see it. So which game do we through out? the third game, where most of the starters play the first half? Still important for the rookies to play the second half though. Perhaps we could get rid of the 1st or second. And the arguement could be made that if Chicago and Green Bay had played their starters in weak 3 of preseason, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Believe anything Hue says at your own peril...
Owners are going to make a big push for it in the new CBA.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
I don't understand how the owners can say they are doing everything they can in the name of player safety and then try to push a 18 game schedule - FIVE OR SIX GAMES more than college football teams play.
I'm sorry, more doesn't mean better. I'm with mjp 100% on this.
How often do changes these days in the NFL actually turn out for the better? The schedule is one of the last things I would fuck with.
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