How to get from Dayton to Indianapolis by way of Brooklyn, Boston, New York, Dallas, Hershey and Baltimore

jbluhm86

It would be nice to have a NFL developmental league(s) similar to the minor leagues in MLB; but methinks that the XFL ain't it.

nickers

The only thing exciting about the XFL is the sexy cheerleaders.. But I will say.. "He Hate Me" was my favorite name in Football.... But like last time.. I expect this league to flop again!...

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

I can do a whole lot more and don't need to hear. "and the starting quarterback and former pizza delivery guy is....".

Relax junior I've been retired for 32 years now and don't have enough hours in the day. Besides who needs "fake" sports it would be like discussing the old defunct AAFC.

So, again, if you have no interest in the Cleveland Browns...why are you here?

mjp28

@nickers said:

The only thing exciting about the XFL is the sexy cheerleaders.. But I will say.. "He Hate Me" was my favorite name in Football.... But like last time.. I expect this league to flop again!...

Unless it gets a boatload of money from the NFL it won't last long. Only one of the four American Football Leagues (1960-1969) had any real recent impact by getting absorbed into the NFL and starting the new current Superbowl era. Here's a list should be close to the real thing so when does the new XFL get added to the list? The American people have shown repeatedly that the NCAA and NFL are enough football. I agree.

Professional football.......buy your new XFL merchandise now, they might be collector's items.

AAF–Alliance of American Football (2019)
AAFC–All-America Football Conference (1946–1949)
AFL–American Football League (1926)
AFL–American Football League (1936–1937)
AFL–American Football League (1940–1941)
AFL–American Football League (1960–1969, now the American Football Conference of the major league NFL)
AFL–Arena Football League (1987–2008)
- The AFL returned in 2010, but is a separate legal entity from the original AFL. The current league purchased the assets of the original AFL in a bankruptcy auction, enabling it to brand itself as the first league's successor.
af2 (2000–2009), the Arena Football League's official minor league
- Many of the teams in the revived AFL are former af2 teams. In fact, the original lineup of Arena Football 1, the league that morphed into the revived AFL, included more af2 teams than former AFL teams.
CFL–Continental Football League (1965–1969)
FXFL–Fall Experimental Football League (2014–2015)
IFL–Indoor Football League (1999–2000)
IPFL–Indoor Professional Football League (1999–2001)
PIFL–Professional Indoor Football League (1998)
PSFL–Professional Spring Football League (1991 – Training Camp)
UFL–United Football League (2009–2012)
USFL–United States Football League (1983–1985)
WFL–World Football League (1974–1975)
XFL (2001)

The Gipper

@jbluhm86 said:

It would be nice to have a NFL developmental league(s) similar to the minor leagues in MLB; but methinks that the XFL ain't it.

The AAF thought it could be that. Maybe the XFL will attempt to be. They are supposed to be revising their model from the original ...to be more totally football oriented. Including not having the cheerleaders be more or less strippers, and no funny nicknames.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

Unless it gets a boatload of money from the NFL it won't last long. Only one of the four American Football Leagues (1960-1969) had any real recent impact by getting absorbed into the NFL and starting the new current Superbowl era. Here's a list should be close to the real thing so when does the new XFL get added to the list? The American people have shown repeatedly that the NCAA and NFL are enough football. I agree.

Professional football.......buy your new XFL merchandise now, they might be collector's items.

AAF–Alliance of American Football (2019)

AAFC–All-America Football Conference (1946–1949)

AFL–American Football League (1926)

AFL–American Football League (1936–1937)

AFL–American Football League (1940–1941)

AFL–American Football League (1960–1969, now the American Football Conference of the major league NFL)

AFL–Arena Football League (1987–2008)
The AFL returned in 2010, but is a separate legal entity from the original AFL. The current league purchased the assets of the original AFL in a bankruptcy auction, enabling it to brand itself as the first league's successor.

af2 (2000–2009), the Arena Football League's official minor league
Many of the teams in the revived AFL are former af2 teams. In fact, the original lineup of Arena Football 1, the league that morphed into the revived AFL, included more af2 teams than former AFL teams.

CFL–Continental Football League (1965–1969)

FXFL–Fall Experimental Football League (2014–2015)

IFL–Indoor Football League (1999–2000)

IPFL–Indoor Professional Football League (1999–2001)

PIFL–Professional Indoor Football League (1998)

PSFL–Professional Spring Football League (1991 – Training Camp)

UFL–United Football League (2009–2012)

USFL–United States Football League (1983–1985)

WFL–World Football League (1974–1975)

XFL (2001)

Only 2 of those really count: The ones that merged with the NFL, being the AAFC and the AFL..60-69 version.

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

The AAF thought it could be that. Maybe the XFL will attempt to be. They are supposed to be revising their model from the original ...to be more totally football oriented. Including not having the cheerleaders be more or less strippers, and no funny nicknames.

The quickly defunct AAF went under fast because they couldn't pay their bills or payroll or satisfy the long term contracts they entered into. (hard to remember because it was gone so fast)

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

Only 2 of those really count: The ones that merged with the NFL, being the AAFC and the AFL..60-69 version.

And yet most people only remember one because it was a good league and began the highly successful Superbowl era. The other was about 70 years ago and wasn't really a success and even old geezers like you and I can not remember it.....and I'm only 69.

Oh and it died, nobody else really cares, the records are not even in the NFL HOF.......let it rest in peace. It's totally dead and gone.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

And yet most people only remember one because it was a good league and began the highly successful Superbowl era. The other was about 70 years ago and wasn't really a success and even old geezers like you and I can not remember it.....and I'm only 69.

Oh and it died, nobody else really cares, the records are not even in the NFL HOF.......let it rest in peace. It's totally dead and gone.

Well....the Cleveland Browns are not gone, the San Francisco 49ers are not got....the Baltimore Colts are gone...but just to Indy.

Again....if you hate the Browns and wish to constantly denigrate their history, their chances.... why are you even on here?

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

Again....if you hate the Browns and wish to constantly denigrate their history, their chances.... why are you even on here?

Easy because I've been a DieHard browns fan since the 1950s and basically an all Ohio sports fan.

GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, TRIBE, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes, I like ND!

GO BROWNS, naturally.

jcam222

Our boy Brogan was drafted

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

Well....the Cleveland Browns are not gone, the San Francisco 49ers are not got....the Baltimore Colts are gone...but just to Indy.

Again....if you hate the Browns and wish to constantly denigrate their history, their chances.... why are you even on here?

The Baltimore Colts that came from the AAFC has nothing to do with the Baltimore Colts that became the Indianapolis Colts.

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

The Baltimore Colts that came from the AAFC has nothing to do with the Baltimore Colts that became the Indianapolis Colts.

That is correct...technically.

Some however have this theory that the Colts can actually trace their lineage back to I think, the Dayton Triangles.

How to get from Dayton to Indianapolis by way of Brooklyn, Boston, New York, Dallas, Hershey and Baltimore

By Bob Carroll
The Coffin Corner
Volume XVII
Originally published in Ragtyme Sports

Teams Lineage Summary:

Dayton Cadets (1913-15), Dayton Triangles (1916-29), Brooklyn Dodgers (1930-43), Brooklyn Tigers (1944), Yanks (Merger with Boston in 1945). End of NFL franchise.
Boston Yanks (1944), Yanks (Merger with Brooklyn, 1945), Boston Yanks (1946-48). End of NFL franchise.
New York Bulldogs (1949), New York Yanks (1950-51). End of NFL franchise.
New York Yankees AAFC (1946-48), Brooklyn-New York Yankees (Merger, 1949). End AAFC franchise. New York Yanks bought most of players.
Baltimore Colts I (1947-49 AAFC, 1950 NFL). End NFL franchise.
Dallas Texans (1952). End NFL franchise. Team played out of Hershey, Pa., for final five games.
Baltimore Colts II (1953-1983), Indianapolis Colts (1984- on). Franchise still active.

https://daytontriangles.com/how-to-get-from-dayton-to-indianapolis-by-way-of-brooklyn-boston-new-york-dallas-hershey-and-baltimore/

It is very much a stretch....but there is that theory.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

I'd rather just watch the BUCKEYES than a bunch of stiffs that couldn't even make an NFL taxi squad......hey maybe some were really driving taxis!

....or Uber guys.

I think a lot of the guys that may play there are no longer eligible for the NFL Practice Squads. Thus, they have to make an active roster....or hit the streets. Here is a place for them to land.

mjp28

Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?

Dutch Oven · Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?

@mjp28 said:

Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?

There's part of me almost wishing this frustrating as hell Browns season would just wrap up...

So no, no interest in watching the WWE doofus try to placate his ego in trying this again.

mjp28 · Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?

@dutch-oven said:

There's part of me almost wishing this frustrating as hell Browns season would just wrap up...

So no, no interest in watching the WWE doofus try to placate his ego in trying this again.

It's like the season just abruptly ended -but- there are 4 more games still to play...... almost like preseason II.

Feels like cold January is here already.

browns52

@mjp28 said:

The NFL minor league and unless proped up will probably fade into obscurity with all of the others.....

i kind of lost interest in these secondary football leagues when the usfl ....the one where sipe went to jacksonville....and it died...at least they had some nfl players that had a yr or 2 left in the gas tank......since then....eh, not interested....and if the nfl does not do something about these refs and some of the new rules, i may lose interest....getting close for me...i know alot of folks i grew up with stopped watching...so we talk about music mostly....

mjp28

@browns52 said:

i kind of lost interest in these secondary football leagues when the usfl ....the one where sipe went to jacksonville....and it died...at least they had some nfl players that had a yr or 2 left in the gas tank......since then....eh, not interested....and if the nfl does not do something about these refs and some of the new rules, i may lose interest....getting close for me...i know alot of folks i grew up with stopped watching...so we talk about music mostly....

Yes. Since then they were novelty leagues even the indoor football league folded. The USFL looked promising but.....

http://www.espn.com/30for30/film/_/page/small-potatoes-who-killed-the-usfl

About Small Potatoes: Who Killed The USFL?

Film Summary

In 1983 the upstart United States Football League (USFL) had the audacity to challenge the almighty NFL. The new league did the unthinkable by playing in the spring and plucked three straight Heisman Trophy winners away from the NFL. The 12-team USFL played before crowds that averaged 25,000 and started off with respectable TV ratings.

But with success came expansion and new owners, including a certain high profile and impatient real estate baron whose vision was at odds with the league's founders. Soon, the USFL was reduced to waging a desperate anti-trust lawsuit against the NFL, which yielded an ironic verdict that effectively forced the league out of business. Now, almost a quarter of a century later, Academy Award-nominated and Peabody Award-winning director Mike Tollin, himself once a chronicler of the league, will showcase the remarkable influence of those three years on football history and attempt to answer the question, "Who Killed the USFL?"

mjp28

The XFL kicks off pretty soon, so do you think that it has a chance?

The XFL 2020 schedule, a 79-day sprint from kickoff to the championship game, starts on Saturday, Feb. 8 when the DC Defenders host the Seattle Dragons at 2 p.m. ET (ABC). The debut is followed by the Los Angeles Wildcats at the Houston Roughnecks at 5 p.m. ET (FOX).

The opening weekend of the 10-week regular season continues on Sunday, Feb. 9, when the New York Guardians host the Tampa Bay Vipers at 2 p.m. ET (FOX) and concludes later that day when the St. Louis BattleHawks travel to face the Dallas Renegades at 5 p.m. ET (ESPN).