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  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    What has garret done for us? Game changing plays? Turnovers? D scores? Yes he’s been disruptive but that gets balanced by penaltys.  I haven’t seen his value yet. Coach don’t help any either. 

    His value is with teams starting their gameplan to account for his presence and ending the discussion with “find Myles Garrett”.  Maybe pose this question to the 10 offensive coordinators that the Browns played.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    His value is with teams starting their gameplan to account for his presence and ending the discussion with “find Myles Garrett”.  Maybe pose this question to the 10 offensive coordinators that the Browns played.  

    How do you need to game plan for him? He’s gone now and will have a bullseye on him. If he can’t play, his worth is nada 

  • @comeonman said:

    Should Rudolph have attempted to rip Garrett’s helmet off? Or kick him in the balls? Or run after him after they were separated? 

    Nope-but none of that equals what Myles did subsequently. Sorry this is just my unbiased opinion.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Nope-but none of that equals what Myles did subsequently. Sorry this is just my unbiased opinion.

    Rudolph provoked him and prevailed by getting Garrett to react. And the Steelers love him for it. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    You said exactly what a woman beater would say while quoting my post and pointing up to it. I apologize for the language though.  I edited it but you are quick on the trigger.

    lol no worries. I just don't like the defense that (paraphrasing here, not saying you said it!!) <in my best Pittsburgh hillbilly accent> "Myles coulda really hurted him if he wanted to". 

    I knew last night in the Tavern that he would be gone for a significant amount of time and he should be..... Hell, his teammates and peers that play(ed) the game know he should be too. 

    Just a bummer for the Browns who don't get a lot of consistent pressure from the front 4 and now they lose their best player on that group. 

    @d-bone said:

    lol no worries. I just don't like the defense that (paraphrasing here, not saying you said it!!) <in my best Pittsburgh hillbilly accent> "Myles coulda really hurted him if he wanted to". 

    I knew last night in the Tavern that he would be gone for a significant amount of time and he should be..... Hell, his teammates and peers that play(ed) the game know he should be too. 

    Just a bummer for the Browns who don't get a lot of consistent pressure from the front 4 and now they lose their best player on that group. 

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    His value is with teams starting their gameplan to account for his presence and ending the discussion with “find Myles Garrett”.  Maybe pose this question to the 10 offensive coordinators that the Browns played.  

    How do you need to game plan for him? He’s gone now and will have a bullseye on him. If he can’t play, his worth is nada 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    How do you need to game plan for him? He’s gone now and will have a bullseye on him. If he can’t play, his worth is nada 

    I believe that was his response to someone saying it doesn't really matter Garrett isn't making game changing plays anyway.  Just other teams having to gameplan and account for him is changing the game.  I think he knows teams wont gameplan for him while he is suspended

  • @d-bone said:

    lol no worries. I just don't like the defense that (paraphrasing here, not saying you said it!!) <in my best Pittsburgh hillbilly accent> "Myles coulda really hurted him if he wanted to". 

    I knew last night in the Tavern that he would be gone for a significant amount of time and he should be..... Hell, his teammates and peers that play(ed) the game know he should be too. 

    Just a bummer for the Browns who don't get a lot of consistent pressure from the front 4 and now they lose their best player on that group. 

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    Agree..... we just disagree on Mason's punishment for his involvement. I think a pretty hefty fine is what will be handed out...... after all, it's a QB driven league. 

  • Thor's Hammer is a bitch........ I'll put the over/under for Myles returning at week 8 next season. I'm guessing those that thought 1 or 2 games max are a bit surprised right about now. 

    I am surprised about Pouncey's suspension a bit, but the NFL had to quickly set an example and I'm 100% fine with his 3 games.... no place in the game for head stomping regardless of why. 

    Myles has saddled this horse, now his teammates and fans get to ride it.  

    @d-bone said:

    Thor's Hammer is a bitch........ I'll put the over/under for Myles returning at week 8 next season. I'm guessing those that thought 1 or 2 games max are a bit surprised right about now. 

    I am surprised about Pouncey's suspension a bit, but the NFL had to quickly set an example and I'm 100% fine with his 3 games.... no place in the game for head stomping regardless of why. 

    Myles has saddled this horse, now his teammates and fans get to ride it.  

    I'd be a bit surprised if he misses time next year. They used the word "indefinite" to sound as tough as possible, and is the easiest manner to automatically rule him out of any playoff games if it gets there. Pouncey was totally fine standing up for his QB, but the kicks while Garrett was on the ground probably iced his 3 games. 

    All you can hope is that the literal millions Garrett sees going down the shitter wises the man up.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Nope-but none of that equals what Myles did subsequently. Sorry this is just my unbiased opinion.

    Rudolph provoked him and prevailed by getting Garrett to react. And the Steelers love him for it. 

    @comeonman said:

    Rudolph provoked him and prevailed by getting Garrett to react. And the Steelers love him for it. 

    Garrett is a "star" and should always expect that kind of dirty provocation. Comes with the territory. Best he know it now rather in a really close race for the top playoff spot next year.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    Agree..... we just disagree on Mason's punishment for his involvement. I think a pretty hefty fine is what will be handed out...... after all, it's a QB driven league. 

    @d-bone said:

    Agree..... we just disagree on Mason's punishment for his involvement. I think a pretty hefty fine is what will be handed out...... after all, it's a QB driven league. 

    Rudolph is a qb??? 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    Agree..... we just disagree on Mason's punishment for his involvement. I think a pretty hefty fine is what will be handed out...... after all, it's a QB driven league. 

    @d-bone said:

    Agree..... we just disagree on Mason's punishment for his involvement. I think a pretty hefty fine is what will be handed out...... after all, it's a QB driven league. 

    Yes that's what will be handed out but it's not what should be handed out. If obunjobi got suspended for shoving Rudolph then Rudolph should certainly be suspended for trying to rip Garrett's helmet off putting his foot in Garrett's balls punching Garrett in his balls and throwing another punch (didn't connect) 

  • @d-bone said:

    Thor's Hammer is a bitch........ I'll put the over/under for Myles returning at week 8 next season. I'm guessing those that thought 1 or 2 games max are a bit surprised right about now. 

    I am surprised about Pouncey's suspension a bit, but the NFL had to quickly set an example and I'm 100% fine with his 3 games.... no place in the game for head stomping regardless of why. 

    Myles has saddled this horse, now his teammates and fans get to ride it.  

    I'd be a bit surprised if he misses time next year. They used the word "indefinite" to sound as tough as possible, and is the easiest manner to automatically rule him out of any playoff games if it gets there. Pouncey was totally fine standing up for his QB, but the kicks while Garrett was on the ground probably iced his 3 games. 

    All you can hope is that the literal millions Garrett sees going down the shitter wises the man up.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I'd be a bit surprised if he misses time next year. They used the word "indefinite" to sound as tough as possible, and is the easiest manner to automatically rule him out of any playoff games if it gets there. Pouncey was totally fine standing up for his QB, but the kicks while Garrett was on the ground probably iced his 3 games. 

    All you can hope is that the literal millions Garrett sees going down the shitter wises the man up.

    He will get reinstated before the first game next year.  He will be proactive by taking anger management classes and all that garbage. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Nope, my pal pointed this out- Garrett was after a sack on a meaningless play- to pad his stats. You do remember Myles wanted to lead the league there. 

    If you want to count this a payback for Headhunter Harrison- well Myles just hurt the team by getting suspended. Not official yet but it's just a question of how many games, not if. 

    If the oldsters want to label it as another Turkey Jones moment- have at it...  

    Well, that isn't any worse than tomlin calling the play he did. What was the point? eight freaking seconds?

    I suspect they called that play because they wanted to start a big fight and get Garrett, the Browns' start DE left on the line, suspended.

    Remember, Tomlin is the toad that tried to trip a player running down the sideline.  They play the refs. Like their TE shoulder bumping the Browns db, and turning left but the pass was behind him, incomplete. Of course, the refs called pi on the db.

    that is just so bogus...

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, that isn't any worse than tomlin calling the play he did. What was the point? eight freaking seconds?

    I suspect they called that play because they wanted to start a big fight and get Garrett, the Browns' start DE left on the line, suspended.

    Remember, Tomlin is the toad that tried to trip a player running down the sideline.  They play the refs. Like their TE shoulder bumping the Browns db, and turning left but the pass was behind him, incomplete. Of course, the refs called pi on the db.

    that is just so bogus...

    That conspiracy theory is just so bogus Cal...  

    @vagitron said:

    Chasing sacks, hence taking Rudolph to the ground with 8 seconds left.

    What I said Vag...   The ball was already out of Rudolph's hands....  

    @vagitron said:

    I agree, the product on the field is the product on the field. However two concussions for helmet to helmet hits on two of our starting receivers and then the Garrett bs. All I'm saying is people should probably not be walking around puffing the chest out. Lol

    It was a rough game, granted. But don't try and act like in the past Harrison wasn't deliberately trying to injure players  from other teams, not just the Browns.  Cheapshotter Hines Ward never missed an opportunity to get in a blindside block whenever he had the opportunity. To the point the NFL changed the rules on account of it....   

    @tour2ma said:

    If that's your honest opinion, please lie...

    MG's initial take down was as gentle as it could be... it was practically in slow motion and it protected both players.

    I was referring to what happened after the takedown Tour. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Is Rudolph not facing suspension?

    "additional fines and suspensions may be handed out after further review". Like players leaving the bench during a fight...  Will Rudolph get fined or suspended for his actions? Stay tuned.  

  • Garrett will forever be a meme now. Rudolph as well.. And the Browns helmet.

  • @comeonman said:

    Should Rudolph have attempted to rip Garrett’s helmet off? Or kick him in the balls? Or run after him after they were separated? 

    Nope-but none of that equals what Myles did subsequently. Sorry this is just my unbiased opinion.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Nope-but none of that equals what Myles did subsequently. Sorry this is just my unbiased opinion.

    I am not understanding why people can't comprehend that is not an either or situation. Saying that Rudolph was in the wrong and should be suspended doesn't mean that you don't think that myles went way too far acted unacceptably and should be suspended for longer then what Rudolph gets. Oh and this is my unbiased opinion. 

  • @jrb12711 said:

    I'd be a bit surprised if he misses time next year. They used the word "indefinite" to sound as tough as possible, and is the easiest manner to automatically rule him out of any playoff games if it gets there. Pouncey was totally fine standing up for his QB, but the kicks while Garrett was on the ground probably iced his 3 games. 

    All you can hope is that the literal millions Garrett sees going down the shitter wises the man up.

    He will get reinstated before the first game next year.  He will be proactive by taking anger management classes and all that garbage. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    He will get reinstated before the first game next year.  He will be proactive by taking anger management classes and all that garbage. 

    No he won't. It's been said he will get the longest suspension ever handed down, that ain't 6 games. There are people speculating he will get another ten next season for a full 16 and it would be deserved. There are a bunch of you that look like total dirt bags, it's embarrassing.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    I mean, the NFL had to do this the way they did. This is the main line on every major news outlet and would continue to be until they made a decision. Only reason it's indefinite is if the squad makes the playoffs. Adrian Peterson beat his kid and only had to sit out a year. 

    What a nightmare this season has ended up being, wow.

    Like I said...they DO succumb to media hysteria at times. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Like I said...they DO succumb to media hysteria at times. 

    do the dot plots on miles garrett....he punched a player first game of the season and it got worse from there...he is a thug...end of story...a fucking thug....i don't care who started the fight,...you don't fucking pull a players helmet off and beat him with it....fucking caveman mentality.....he won't be around much longer anyway...will be happy to see him go.....

  • @d-bone said:

    lol no worries. I just don't like the defense that (paraphrasing here, not saying you said it!!) <in my best Pittsburgh hillbilly accent> "Myles coulda really hurted him if he wanted to". 

    I knew last night in the Tavern that he would be gone for a significant amount of time and he should be..... Hell, his teammates and peers that play(ed) the game know he should be too. 

    Just a bummer for the Browns who don't get a lot of consistent pressure from the front 4 and now they lose their best player on that group. 

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Most everyone in the tavern acknowledged he should be out the rest of the season.  It wasn't until after multiple views showing what rudolph did that people started to change their tune. I haven't. i still say he should be out the remainder of the year, but saying Rudolph should also be suspended for what he did isn't excusing Garrett or condoning his behavior.

    The contact before the helmet drag was incidental. People acting like Rudolph gave him the karate kid. His hand was also stuck to the under portion of Garrett's helmet. Myles than proceeded to drag him across the field. Anyone surprised that Rudolph would have more to say is either a beta male or never played competitive sports. Garrett hit him with the padded side of the helmet. If he had hit him with the harder portion it would have split his head. A helmet weighs 6 pounds a fucking brick weighs 5. Anyone defending garrett is a dip shit asshole. Period 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Like I said...they DO succumb to media hysteria at times. 

    do the dot plots on miles garrett....he punched a player first game of the season and it got worse from there...he is a thug...end of story...a fucking thug....i don't care who started the fight,...you don't fucking pull a players helmet off and beat him with it....fucking caveman mentality.....he won't be around much longer anyway...will be happy to see him go.....

    @browns52 said:

    do the dot plots on miles garrett....he punched a player first game of the season and it got worse from there...he is a thug...end of story...a fucking thug....i don't care who started the fight,...you don't fucking pull a players helmet off and beat him with it....fucking caveman mentality.....he won't be around much longer anyway...will be happy to see him go.....

    And then Mack Wilson was caught celebrating juju getting hurt on twitter. Posted a picture with a laughing face and 1-0. Kitchens better get that shit under control.

  • @browns52 said:

    do the dot plots on miles garrett....he punched a player first game of the season and it got worse from there...he is a thug...end of story...a fucking thug....i don't care who started the fight,...you don't fucking pull a players helmet off and beat him with it....fucking caveman mentality.....he won't be around much longer anyway...will be happy to see him go.....

    And then Mack Wilson was caught celebrating juju getting hurt on twitter. Posted a picture with a laughing face and 1-0. Kitchens better get that shit under control.

    @vagitron said:

    And then Mack Wilson was caught celebrating juju getting hurt on twitter. Posted a picture with a laughing face and 1-0. Kitchens better get that shit under control.

    this team is so fucked up......

  • @bjh2130 said:

    He will get reinstated before the first game next year.  He will be proactive by taking anger management classes and all that garbage. 

    No he won't. It's been said he will get the longest suspension ever handed down, that ain't 6 games. There are people speculating he will get another ten next season for a full 16 and it would be deserved. There are a bunch of you that look like total dirt bags, it's embarrassing.

    @vagitron said:

    No he won't. It's been said he will get the longest suspension ever handed down, that ain't 6 games. There are people speculating he will get another ten next season for a full 16 and it would be deserved. There are a bunch of you that look like total dirt bags, it's embarrassing.

    What Garrett did is inexcusable and should not be tolerated ever. And if he gets suspended for a full 16 games there isn't much argument against. That being said calling Browns fans dirt bags from a supporter of a team historically full of dirt bag cheap shot players is quite frankly laughable. When the Steelers tear some ones ACL or break their jaw, well they are just playing good hard football. When Rudolph gets a bump on the head, worst thing thats ever happened.