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  • Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc

    @orion said:

    Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    er... he was upset about rudoolfus who tried  to scratch his eyes out, tried to rip off his helmet down over his face....and who DID kick him in the groin...

  • @orion said:

    Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    er... he was upset about rudoolfus who tried  to scratch his eyes out, tried to rip off his helmet down over his face....and who DID kick him in the groin...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    er... he was upset about rudoolfus who tried  to scratch his eyes out, tried to rip off his helmet down over his face....and who DID kick him in the groin...

    It will be interesting tomorrow if Mr. Arbitrator buys that line of reasoning Cal.....  I'm certain Myles will bring all that up. If the arbitrator goes along with it, the suspension will be reduced.   

  • Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by

    @orion said:

    Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    I hope the reasoning you gave is sarcasm. 

  • Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper

    @orion said:

    Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    I don't think that had a damn thing to do with it.  

    maybe he was mad because he was being held all night.

    Maybe he was mad because a guy was trying to poke him in the eye and rip off his helmet and kick him in the nuts. 

    Maybe he was mad because he hadn't gotten laid in a month. 

    Maybe this, maybe that, maybe another thing.   His pressure was largely responsible for  Rudolpho throwing 4 picks.   Nothing to be mad about there. 

    A pick is better than a sack, in my opinion.  

    To paraphrase Luke Skywalker....

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    Except, yes...he should have tossed the helmet. 

  • @orion said:

    Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    I hope the reasoning you gave is sarcasm. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    @bjh2130 said:

    I hope the reasoning you gave is sarcasm. 

    Nope.

    I think what I said has a part to play in it.

    Do I think it was the sole factor?  Of course not.  Just because he didn't get any sacks, again, he wasn't going to go over to Rudolph and yank his helmet off and whack him with it.  No.  But add to him already being frustrated, then the guy tries to rip his helmet off, and then comes back for more........it all adds up to 'whack'.  

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    Shows a really great view that closed the book on the fairy tale that Rudolph had his hand stuck in Myles helmet. You can clearly see his sissy hand outside the helmet before he DECIDED to put in it the cage. 

  • N Neo wrote on last edited by

    Myles Garrett wins!!! FLAWLESS VICTORY. FATALITY.

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  • lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by

    @the-cysko-kid said:

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    OK...while this is a very serious situation, I have to admit...this made me laugh my ass off!

  • I've noticed something, and multiple people have done it, in the retelling of the Rudolph/Garrett incident.

    Garrett did not sack Rudolph. He most likely thought he did, but Rudolph got rid of the ball as Garrett wrapped him up and completed the pass to one of their RBs. This is important, because this is most likely the reason everything after occurred. Garrett had no idea Rudolph got rid of the ball, so he completed the tackle, Rudolph DID know he got rid of the ball, which is why he got pissed and lost his mind. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    I've noticed something, and multiple people have done it, in the retelling of the Rudolph/Garrett incident.

    Garrett did not sack Rudolph. He most likely thought he did, but Rudolph got rid of the ball as Garrett wrapped him up and completed the pass to one of their RBs. This is important, because this is most likely the reason everything after occurred. Garrett had no idea Rudolph got rid of the ball, so he completed the tackle, Rudolph DID know he got rid of the ball, which is why he got pissed and lost his mind. 

    It is very telling that no flag was given to Garrett on the near sack.  Nowadays it’s touch football with the QB.  So if that aggravated Mason to the point on that kind of anger - perhaps he has a problem besides just throwing footballs 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Garrett was faced with the following:

    -two on one fight he was being subdued by one individual and the threat of attack was coming.  Garrett was already assaulted by Rudolph it would be reasonable for Garrett to believe he was going to be assaulted again- he’s justified in protecting himself but The question hinges upon: Was his show of force excessive given the circumstances?  

    While your depiction of this incident is accurate, reason is no longer a factor.

    @icecube said:

    Remember when SNL was at least a little funny?

    It still is... in fact it's very funny. Some nights more than others and some skits more than others, but the past couple seasons stand with the best of the "golden era" of SNL.

    Try taking in an entire show someday.

    @gorka said:

     Trying to inflict harm to another player by swinging a helmet at his unprotected head when the play is over is not football.

    Are you secretly Goodell??? You've using his arguments...

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    While your depiction of this incident is accurate, reason is no longer a factor.

    It still is... in fact it's very funny. Some nights more than others and some skits more than others, but the past couple seasons stand with the best of the "golden era" of SNL.

    Try taking in an entire show someday.

    Are you secretly Goodell??? You've using his arguments...

    Well it’s likely the true reason he didn’t attempt to bring charges.

     He would be judged On all the attending circumstances  and scenarios that play out in the self defense standard.  Many of  nuances to it and the actions that took place don’t exactly make him look innocent.  

    Garrett may have been better off if the Steelers and Mason attempted to pursue action.  The ultimate decision and likely message would be prosecution not pursuing this type of case and the reasons would probably make Garrett not look so bad in the eye of the public which is important because I’d argue that was the basis of his initial suspension  

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by

    A lot of interesting sources on what the appeals process is looking like. I thought the "indefinite" suspension what a show move all along and this would quietly (as possible) get reduced down a bit.

  • N Neo wrote on last edited by

    The helmet swing looked bad when it happened, but it's not really THAT bad. We are not used to seeing things like this so when it happened everyone is appalled and it didn't help a lot of people super overreacted to it. Once more details started to come out I think people started to calm down. It is what it is, a football fight that happened on a football field that should (and was) handled in house. The fact that the Cleveland police were seen leaving the locker room and the talk of legal action are totally absurd. 

    AND, this could be the shot in the arm this franchise has needed for quite some time.  The Browns are in the thick of a playoff hunt and you bet your ass the Pittsburgh rivalry is back on and everyone's got that game in Pittsburgh circled. If you're a Browns player and you're not up for this game, take off the uniform and go play soccer. 

  • Shows a really great view that closed the book on the fairy tale that Rudolph had his hand stuck in Myles helmet. You can clearly see his sissy hand outside the helmet before he DECIDED to put in it the cage. 

    bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Shows a really great view that closed the book on the fairy tale that Rudolph had his hand stuck in Myles helmet. You can clearly see his sissy hand outside the helmet before he DECIDED to put in it the cage. 

    Great shot in that video po. For anyone that didn't see it there next time a steeler fan tries to tell you his hand was stuck (looking at you vagitron) show them this picture right after they hit the ground

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  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    the steeler fans, including vagitron, are hypocrites. Their team intimidates with violence,

    "it's football you wimps, haha".

    But let another team do it to THEM ?

    They go apecrap with fake indigence.

    the squealers are the dirtiest team in all of pro football.

    Maybe still the steriodest? who knows.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    Meanwhile, the girlieman qb of the pukesberg squealers saw the video of himself starting the entire fight, while looking like

    the biggest pouty puss in the NFL.

    Now, he is sorry for the way he acted. etc etc etc.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/i-should-have-done-a-better-job-pittsburgh-steelers-qb-mason-rudolph-explains-his-actions-in-cleveland-browns-incident/ar-BBX3LrH

  • the steeler fans, including vagitron, are hypocrites. Their team intimidates with violence,

    "it's football you wimps, haha".

    But let another team do it to THEM ?

    They go apecrap with fake indigence.

    the squealers are the dirtiest team in all of pro football.

    Maybe still the steriodest? who knows.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    the steeler fans, including vagitron, are hypocrites. Their team intimidates with violence,

    "it's football you wimps, haha".

    But let another team do it to THEM ?

    They go apecrap with fake indigence.

    the squealers are the dirtiest team in all of pro football.

    Maybe still the steriodest? who knows.

    Do you mean fake indignity?   Indigence is about a person being poor.     But, maybe you were applying an oxymoron.....as in the Steelers, the bully who gets punched in the face, cry  "poor poor pitiful me".

    Which makes them you know what?  They and Rudolph are The Scut Farkas of the NFL. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    Do you mean fake indignity?   Indigence is about a person being poor.     But, maybe you were applying an oxymoron.....as in the Steelers, the bully who gets punched in the face, cry  "poor poor pitiful me".

    Which makes them you know what?  They and Rudolph are The Scut Farkas of the NFL. 

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         oops. I meant "Indignant" as in, "indignance" but the latter wouldn't accept it as spelled correctly so...

    crap.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    Ogunjobi will miss Miami game. Ogun's Appeal was upheld, but fine dropped  https://brownszone.com/2019/11/20/dt-larry-ogunjobi-still-suspended-for-1-game-following-appeal/   

    the Antonio Smith/Incognito set precedent video is this, from link above ^^^ in 2013, Smith was suspended 2 PS games & 1 opening game..

          sorry for the blur..but only close-up i can find at this time, with best close up angles

  • Once Garrett ripped off the helmet......he should've just tossed it aside.   The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @orion said:

     The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    True.... the frustration was all Rudolph's... although having just completed a pass to one of his players for a change, one has to wonder if removing MG's helmet was part of a planned celebration.

    But can we please put the "game was over... pad sack total" bullshit to rest.

    The Steelers ran a play.

    Both teams played.

  • @orion said:

     The game was over.   But no, he was pissed off because he, again, didn't get any sacks.  He is apparently quite concerned with his personal sack count.  He wants to lead the league.  -  It certainly wasn't frustration that his team was losing another game.

    True.... the frustration was all Rudolph's... although having just completed a pass to one of his players for a change, one has to wonder if removing MG's helmet was part of a planned celebration.

    But can we please put the "game was over... pad sack total" bullshit to rest.

    The Steelers ran a play.

    Both teams played.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion

    @tour2ma said:

    The Steelers ran a play.

    Both teams played.

    Not only did they run a play....they ran a pass play.  What do defensive linemen try to do on pass plays?  Nobody hits your QB if he hands it off.

    What a funky season we're having.  For most of the season we've been without both our starting corners.  This week we'll be without both our starting DE's.  Our #3 & 4 WR's were supposed to have good years because of Landry & OBJ taking up the coverage....but one of 'em has been injured and in the dog house and the other is kicked off the team.  Njoku was supposed to have a big year because of Landy & ObJ....but he's been on IR.  Throw in Austin Corbette turning out to be a bum and the HC looking like rookie HC, and playing very tough defenses ....yet in spite of all that, the Browns have been IN games, battling, with chances to salvage wins.  Our depth is better than years past.  Our skilled players are better than years past.

    A funky season.  Our best WR kicked off the field when we reach the goal line because a ref didn't like his visor.  Chubb fumbles twice in one game.  Once because our best OLineman gets blown up and knocks the ball out with his foot.  We turned the ball over on 3 successive plays from scrimmage.  A player wears an expensive watch onto the field.   He then wears his uniform pants rolled up too high above his knee (the ladies liked it but the refs didn't).  And, of course, currently we're at Helmet Gate.  And we STILL have more than a third of the season to play.

    I'm gonna go ahead and do it.  I'm going to ask, What Will Happen Next?  What Gut-Punch do the football Gods have in store for us Browns fans?  Because, for some reason, we deserve all of the shit that happens to us.  Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble, The Team Moving, Bottle Gate, Text Gate, Manziel, Gordon, 0-16, 1-31.........we deserve all of that, for some reason.