RUN the ball !! We have 2 great running backs!
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How's this for a lineup?
Landry........OL OL OL OL OL...Njoku.........OBJ
.............................Baker....................................
.............Hunt......................Chubb....................
(does it remind Old Timers of the Old Days?) ---------------------------if only our OL could block consistently.
So, yea....as someone said elsewhere, our OL is Tretter/Bitonio...and who knows who else from week to week.
So, yes, our offensive on field weak link is our OL.....but, of course, our bigger offensive weak link appears to be the Kitchens/Monken combination which at times appears clueless or worse.
So, yea....as someone said elsewhere, our OL is Tretter/Bitonio...and who knows who else from week to week.
That was me. And it's a part of why we can't do too much of either, run or pass. We've got to set the defensive up for either.
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Pos Player Age Yrs GS Summary of Player Stats Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Offensive Starters 1987 Cleveland Browns QB Bernie Kosar* 24 2 12 241 for 389, 3,033 yards, 22 td, 9 int, & 15 rushes for 22 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 1st pick / 1985 Supp RB Earnest Byner 25 3 12 105 rushes for 432 yards, 8 td, & 52 catches for 552 yards and 2 td Cleveland Browns / 10th / 280th pick / 1984 FB Kevin Mack* 25 2 12 201 rushes for 735 yards, 5 td, & 32 catches for 223 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 11th pick / 1984 Supp WR Reggie Langhorne 24 2 12 20 catches for 288 yards, 1 td Cleveland Browns / 7th / 175th pick / 1985 WR Webster Slaughter 23 1 12 47 catches for 806 yards, 7 td Cleveland Browns / 2nd / 43rd pick / 1986 TE Ozzie Newsome 31 9 13 34 catches for 375 yards, 0 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 23rd pick / 1978 LT Paul Farren 27 4 12 1 fumble recovered Cleveland Browns / 12th / 316th pick / 1983 LG Larry Williams 24 1 8 Cleveland Browns / 10th / 259th pick / 1985 C Mike Baab 28 5 12 Cleveland Browns / 5th / 115th pick / 1982 RG Dan Fike 26 2 12 New York Jets / 10th / 274th pick / 1983 RT Cody Risien* 30 8 13 Cleveland Browns / 7th / 183rd pick / 197 Pos Player Age Yrs GS Summary of Player Stats Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Offensive Starters 1987 Cleveland Browns QB Bernie Kosar* 24 2 12 241 for 389, 3,033 yards, 22 td, 9 int, & 15 rushes for 22 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 1st pick / 1985 Supp RB Earnest Byner 25 3 12 105 rushes for 432 yards, 8 td, & 52 catches for 552 yards and 2 td Cleveland Browns / 10th / 280th pick / 1984 FB Kevin Mack* 25 2 12 201 rushes for 735 yards, 5 td, & 32 catches for 223 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 11th pick / 1984 Supp WR Reggie Langhorne 24 2 12 20 catches for 288 yards, 1 td Cleveland Browns / 7th / 175th pick / 1985 WR Webster Slaughter 23 1 12 47 catches for 806 yards, 7 td Cleveland Browns / 2nd / 43rd pick / 1986 TE Ozzie Newsome 31 9 13 34 catches for 375 yards, 0 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 23rd pick / 1978 LT Paul Farren 27 4 12 1 fumble recovered Cleveland Browns / 12th / 316th pick / 1983 LG Larry Williams 24 1 8 Cleveland Browns / 10th / 259th pick / 1985 C Mike Baab 28 5 12 Cleveland Browns / 5th / 115th pick / 1982 RG Dan Fike 26 2 12 New York Jets / 10th / 274th pick / 1983 RT Cody Risien* 30 8 13 Cleveland Browns / 7th / 183rd pick / 197 THAT was a good team. And I'd take Marty right NOW over what we have at HC. Marty was a much better coach than his general legacy has him. And he did a great job in KC too, and even made the Skins and Bolts better than others have since.
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Pos Player Age Yrs GS Summary of Player Stats Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Offensive Starters 1987 Cleveland Browns QB Bernie Kosar* 24 2 12 241 for 389, 3,033 yards, 22 td, 9 int, & 15 rushes for 22 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 1st pick / 1985 Supp RB Earnest Byner 25 3 12 105 rushes for 432 yards, 8 td, & 52 catches for 552 yards and 2 td Cleveland Browns / 10th / 280th pick / 1984 FB Kevin Mack* 25 2 12 201 rushes for 735 yards, 5 td, & 32 catches for 223 yards and 1 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 11th pick / 1984 Supp WR Reggie Langhorne 24 2 12 20 catches for 288 yards, 1 td Cleveland Browns / 7th / 175th pick / 1985 WR Webster Slaughter 23 1 12 47 catches for 806 yards, 7 td Cleveland Browns / 2nd / 43rd pick / 1986 TE Ozzie Newsome 31 9 13 34 catches for 375 yards, 0 td Cleveland Browns / 1st / 23rd pick / 1978 LT Paul Farren 27 4 12 1 fumble recovered Cleveland Browns / 12th / 316th pick / 1983 LG Larry Williams 24 1 8 Cleveland Browns / 10th / 259th pick / 1985 C Mike Baab 28 5 12 Cleveland Browns / 5th / 115th pick / 1982 RG Dan Fike 26 2 12 New York Jets / 10th / 274th pick / 1983 RT Cody Risien* 30 8 13 Cleveland Browns / 7th / 183rd pick / 197 THAT was a good team. And I'd take Marty right NOW over what we have at HC. Marty was a much better coach than his general legacy has him. And he did a great job in KC too, and even made the Skins and Bolts better than others have since.
THAT was a good team. And I'd take Marty right NOW over what we have at HC. Marty was a much better coach than his general legacy has him. And he did a great job in KC too, and even made the Skins and Bolts better than others have since.
Marty was a very good regular season head coach.
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People who want to 'establish the run' and run more don't understand efficiency and such.
The reality is we, and most teams, should be running even less.
Baltimore is a horrible example. Subtract all of Jackson's runs for starters as they are not traditional runs(the scrambles or the designed runs).
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3916387/lamar-jackson
This was Jackson breakout year. I have faith that defenses will have learned how to play this guy when next season rolls along. Just like they did Baker.
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so it seems. We'll see if that holds up when they play again.
Most shocking stat is his TD completion improvement over last year.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3916387/lamar-jackson
This was Jackson breakout year. I have faith that defenses will have learned how to play this guy when next season rolls along. Just like they did Baker.
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so it seems. We'll see if that holds up when they play again.
Most shocking stat is his TD completion improvement over last year.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3916387/lamar-jackson
This was Jackson breakout year. I have faith that defenses will have learned how to play this guy when next season rolls along. Just like they did Baker.
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so it seams. We'll see if that holds up when they play again.
Most shocking stat is his TD completion improvement over last year.
It won't. They are missing to many guys on defense and at that point the Browns won't even have their 4% playoff chance so half the team will give up. The Ravens will win and we will have to hear how awesome they are for the rest of the off season.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3916387/lamar-jackson
This was Jackson breakout year. I have faith that defenses will have learned how to play this guy when next season rolls along. Just like they did Baker.
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so it seems. We'll see if that holds up when they play again.
Most shocking stat is his TD completion improvement over last year.
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Good point.
Unfortunately.
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The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
What I should have said to this post was Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
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Chubb has been the best player of the team the entire season. Silent worker, speaks with his actions, and doesn't brag.
I think we're running just fine,maybe Hunt isn't getting the ball a lot, but I can take that.
The thing that I liked the most against the Bengals was using both of them in some formations. Both are good receivers and can block, so using both at the same time makes a lot of mismatch opportunities.
I especially loved a play they ran at least twice: first time Chubb faked a run to the right with the line blocking to that side, while Hunt received a screen pass on the left side with all the defense moving to the opposite side. Later in the game, defense went for Hunt and Chubb had a big rush to the right.
Let's keep them guessing.
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The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
And yet the early lines only show CLE +7 so should we jump on BAL at that line?
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Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
And yet the early lines only show CLE +7 so should we jump on BAL at that line?
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The Browns shut him down tho, the only team able to do so
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Not what I remember, O, so I did a little PFR digging... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackLa00.htm
In their Greg Roman revamped Louisville style Offense, BLT came into the season prepared to run Lamar as much as necessary. In Week 1 he did not have to in a laugher over MIA in which he sat midway thru Q3, but in Week 2 he ran 16 times for 120 in a close win over AZ.
Week 3 vs. KC the Ravens trailed by 8 midway thru the 2nd and by 17 at the half. Playing from behind forced BLT to the pass. LJ passed a season high 43 times and ran only 8 for 46. He was sacked 3 times.
In Week 4 we scored first and took a 10-7 lead into the half before going up by 14 late in the third. BLT closed to within 6 early in the 4th, but then Chubb broke his 88-yd TD run seconds later. In the game Lamar threw 34 times and ran 9. He was sacked 4 times and we picked him twice.
Bottom line: We and KC jumped out to leads forcing BLT to abandon the run... including the running of their RPO QB.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Early in the season the Ravens tried to make him more of a traditional QB with running more of a last resort type of thing. After we shut him down they said, Fuck That! We're gonna get our assess handed to us. He's gonna make our lousy tackling secondary look like a lousy tackling secondary. (of course, I HOPE not)
Not what I remember, O, so I did a little PFR digging... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackLa00.htm
In their Greg Roman revamped Louisville style Offense, BLT came into the season prepared to run Lamar as much as necessary. In Week 1 he did not have to in a laugher over MIA in which he sat midway thru Q3, but in Week 2 he ran 16 times for 120 in a close win over AZ.
Week 3 vs. KC the Ravens trailed by 8 midway thru the 2nd and by 17 at the half. Playing from behind forced BLT to the pass. LJ passed a season high 43 times and ran only 8 for 46. He was sacked 3 times.
In Week 4 we scored first and took a 10-7 lead into the half before going up by 14 late in the third. BLT closed to within 6 early in the 4th, but then Chubb broke his 88-yd TD run seconds later. In the game Lamar threw 34 times and ran 9. He was sacked 4 times and we picked him twice.
Bottom line: We and KC jumped out to leads forcing BLT to abandon the run... including the running of their RPO QB.
Bottom line: We and KC jumped out to leads forcing BLT to abandon the run... including the running of their RPO QB
So in the early part of the season he was more FORCED to be a more traditional QB. Which means that we have to strike early and often to get him out of his game.
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So in the early part of the season he was more FORCED to be a more traditional QB. Which means that we have to strike early and often to get him out of his game.
Certainly a 14 point halftime lead would not suck....
But AZ first...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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