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  • https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/

    So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/

    So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?

    WSS

    No. My prediction sure to go wrong..McDaniels is the Browns coach, Bienemy is the carolina coach, and Matt Rhule is in NY

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/

    So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?

    WSS

    Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/

    So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?

    WSS

    Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.

    That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who  has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.

    That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who  has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who  has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)

    WSS

    I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.

    Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.

  • @westside-steve said:

    That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who  has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)

    WSS

    I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.

    Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.

    @bigalow80 said:

    I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.

    Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.

    You think Marv Lewis is less legit?

    WSS

  • @bigalow80 said:

    I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.

    Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.

    You think Marv Lewis is less legit?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You think Marv Lewis is less legit?

    WSS

    How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?

  • @westside-steve said:

    You think Marv Lewis is less legit?

    WSS

    How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?

    @bigalow80 said:

    How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?

    Dude its Cincinnati...

    WSS

  • And the Giants hire...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2020/01/07/new-york-giants-joe-judge-patriots-hired-head-coach/2832344001/

    So McDaniels what do you think? Take the job or wait for Bill to retire?

    WSS

  • How did you guys not see Joe Judge coming?

    I've been talking about him for minutes now...

  • We are screwed.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/sports/nfl/browns/report-zero-chance-josh-mcdaniels-fills-cleveland-browns-coaching-vacancy/95-3f772f62-e7d7-4704-b225-dc3c677383b5

    New England arrogance at work there.    I don't think that McDaniel needs BBs "stamp of approval" of the Browns ownership in order to consider this job.   That being said, certainly, NO,  no one would give this ownership its stamp of approval. 

    But let's look at what the Browns have to offer:

    A. A young, exciting, capable QB....who in my, and I assume your, and many others in football, just needs proper direction.

    B.  A quality WR corps, with Landry, OBJ, Higgins, etc.  Njoku and Seals at TE

    C. One of the top 3 backfields (RBs) in the game. 

    D.  OK....an OL that needs work.   (If everything were perfect we wouldn't be needing a new HC)

    E.  We will have back one of the best Pass Rushers in the game.  

    F.  A defensive backfield with some good promising pieces.....but yes, which needs work

    G.  A LB corps....which, if they keep Schobert has a solid piece in the middle.   Kirksey on the mend.   But yes, needs some work. 

    So, what I am saying is that the Browns have very, very attractive pieces in place that an offensive oriented HC would love to work with.  (be that McD. or Stefanski, or Bienemy).

    A key part of the new HCs job ...if it is one of the offensive minded guys WILL be to hire the right DC.   Don't know if there are any Dick LeBeau's in the wings out there.  

    But, if defensive minded Robert Saleh is chosen.....he will have control of the defense likely.   His biggest task would be getting the right OC to come in to work with the talent mentioned above.   Who could come in and do that? 

    I don't know why....but I do feel that it will be one of the offensive guys, just based on what he would have to work with. 

    I think it would be nice to get McD at HC and Saleh at DC....but, of course, we know that there would be no lateral move to make....and Saleh has a hell of a defense to work with there in SFO if he does not get the HC gig with the Browns. 

  • Well... if Andy Gresh says there's zero chance...

  • Well... if Andy Gresh says there's zero chance...

    @tour2ma said:

    Well... if Andy Gresh says there's zero chance...

    Who the hell is Mel Kiper.....errrrr, I mean, who the hell is Andy Gresh?  

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/sports/nfl/browns/report-zero-chance-josh-mcdaniels-fills-cleveland-browns-coaching-vacancy/95-3f772f62-e7d7-4704-b225-dc3c677383b5

    New England arrogance at work there.    I don't think that McDaniel needs BBs "stamp of approval" of the Browns ownership in order to consider this job.   That being said, certainly, NO,  no one would give this ownership its stamp of approval. 

    But let's look at what the Browns have to offer:

    A. A young, exciting, capable QB....who in my, and I assume your, and many others in football, just needs proper direction.

    B.  A quality WR corps, with Landry, OBJ, Higgins, etc.  Njoku and Seals at TE

    C. One of the top 3 backfields (RBs) in the game. 

    D.  OK....an OL that needs work.   (If everything were perfect we wouldn't be needing a new HC)

    E.  We will have back one of the best Pass Rushers in the game.  

    F.  A defensive backfield with some good promising pieces.....but yes, which needs work

    G.  A LB corps....which, if they keep Schobert has a solid piece in the middle.   Kirksey on the mend.   But yes, needs some work. 

    So, what I am saying is that the Browns have very, very attractive pieces in place that an offensive oriented HC would love to work with.  (be that McD. or Stefanski, or Bienemy).

    A key part of the new HCs job ...if it is one of the offensive minded guys WILL be to hire the right DC.   Don't know if there are any Dick LeBeau's in the wings out there.  

    But, if defensive minded Robert Saleh is chosen.....he will have control of the defense likely.   His biggest task would be getting the right OC to come in to work with the talent mentioned above.   Who could come in and do that? 

    I don't know why....but I do feel that it will be one of the offensive guys, just based on what he would have to work with. 

    I think it would be nice to get McD at HC and Saleh at DC....but, of course, we know that there would be no lateral move to make....and Saleh has a hell of a defense to work with there in SFO if he does not get the HC gig with the Browns. 

    @the-gipper said:

    New England arrogance at work there.    I don't think that McDaniel needs BBs "stamp of approval" of the Browns ownership in order to consider this job.   That being said, certainly, NO,  no one would give this ownership its stamp of approval. 

    But let's look at what the Browns have to offer:

    A. A young, exciting, capable QB....who in my, and I assume your, and many others in football, just needs proper direction.

    B.  A quality WR corps, with Landry, OBJ, Higgins, etc.  Njoku and Seals at TE

    C. One of the top 3 backfields (RBs) in the game. 

    D.  OK....an OL that needs work.   (If everything were perfect we wouldn't be needing a new HC)

    E.  We will have back one of the best Pass Rushers in the game.  

    F.  A defensive backfield with some good promising pieces.....but yes, which needs work

    G.  A LB corps....which, if they keep Schobert has a solid piece in the middle.   Kirksey on the mend.   But yes, needs some work. 

    So, what I am saying is that the Browns have very, very attractive pieces in place that an offensive oriented HC would love to work with.  (be that McD. or Stefanski, or Bienemy).

    A key part of the new HCs job ...if it is one of the offensive minded guys WILL be to hire the right DC.   Don't know if there are any Dick LeBeau's in the wings out there.  

    But, if defensive minded Robert Saleh is chosen.....he will have control of the defense likely.   His biggest task would be getting the right OC to come in to work with the talent mentioned above.   Who could come in and do that? 

    I don't know why....but I do feel that it will be one of the offensive guys, just based on what he would have to work with. 

    I think it would be nice to get McD at HC and Saleh at DC....but, of course, we know that there would be no lateral move to make....and Saleh has a hell of a defense to work with there in SFO if he does not get the HC gig with the Browns. 

    True enough. Conversely you have to answer to a dipshit his dunce of a wife and a baseball jack off.

    ⚖

    Happy birthday Gipper

    WSS

  • @the-gipper said:

    New England arrogance at work there.    I don't think that McDaniel needs BBs "stamp of approval" of the Browns ownership in order to consider this job.   That being said, certainly, NO,  no one would give this ownership its stamp of approval. 

    But let's look at what the Browns have to offer:

    A. A young, exciting, capable QB....who in my, and I assume your, and many others in football, just needs proper direction.

    B.  A quality WR corps, with Landry, OBJ, Higgins, etc.  Njoku and Seals at TE

    C. One of the top 3 backfields (RBs) in the game. 

    D.  OK....an OL that needs work.   (If everything were perfect we wouldn't be needing a new HC)

    E.  We will have back one of the best Pass Rushers in the game.  

    F.  A defensive backfield with some good promising pieces.....but yes, which needs work

    G.  A LB corps....which, if they keep Schobert has a solid piece in the middle.   Kirksey on the mend.   But yes, needs some work. 

    So, what I am saying is that the Browns have very, very attractive pieces in place that an offensive oriented HC would love to work with.  (be that McD. or Stefanski, or Bienemy).

    A key part of the new HCs job ...if it is one of the offensive minded guys WILL be to hire the right DC.   Don't know if there are any Dick LeBeau's in the wings out there.  

    But, if defensive minded Robert Saleh is chosen.....he will have control of the defense likely.   His biggest task would be getting the right OC to come in to work with the talent mentioned above.   Who could come in and do that? 

    I don't know why....but I do feel that it will be one of the offensive guys, just based on what he would have to work with. 

    I think it would be nice to get McD at HC and Saleh at DC....but, of course, we know that there would be no lateral move to make....and Saleh has a hell of a defense to work with there in SFO if he does not get the HC gig with the Browns. 

    True enough. Conversely you have to answer to a dipshit his dunce of a wife and a baseball jack off.

    ⚖

    Happy birthday Gipper

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    True enough. Conversely you have to answer to a dipshit his dunce of a wife and a baseball jack off.

    ⚖

    Happy birthday Gipper

    WSS

    Yes,  but, honestly....with any team  NFL or otherwise there is always an owner to be accountable to....and half of them are dipshits even if we don't know about them.   

    A lot of people think that our owners of the Indians and Cavaliers may be equally  dipshitish.....to coin a term 😁

  • @westside-steve said:

    True enough. Conversely you have to answer to a dipshit his dunce of a wife and a baseball jack off.

    ⚖

    Happy birthday Gipper

    WSS

    Yes,  but, honestly....with any team  NFL or otherwise there is always an owner to be accountable to....and half of them are dipshits even if we don't know about them.   

    A lot of people think that our owners of the Indians and Cavaliers may be equally  dipshitish.....to coin a term 😁

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes,  but, honestly....with any team  NFL or otherwise there is always an owner to be accountable to....and half of them are dipshits even if we don't know about them.   

    A lot of people think that our owners of the Indians and Cavaliers may be equally  dipshitish.....to coin a term 😁

    That's true. Still very few of them are as outwardly incompetent as Haslam and his little gang of idiots.

    WSS

  • https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/ben-leber-stefanski-is-one-of-those-guys-that-just-gets-it

    Here's a concern I have. There's probably not one single coaching Prospect no matter how remote that doesn't have some success in the league and at least a handful of people who think he's the greatest.

    WSS