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The Browns seem to be looking for the HC first, then hiring a GM that the HC would want to work with. That's why everyone is talking about the head coach position.
Now, I don't know what why they don't hire the GM, then let him hire the HC HE wants to work with, but apparently the Browns really want Paul DePodesta to run the head coaching search, not another new GM.
I am saying that it may be probable that both GM and HC will be subservients.
A DFO may be hired before either. I am thinking that the search there may be all on the low down....even that it may be possible that they have their head honcho, but may not want to announce it now because he may be with a current playoff team.....just speculating.
Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
I am saying that it may be probable that both GM and HC will be subservients.
A DFO may be hired before either. I am thinking that the search there may be all on the low down....even that it may be possible that they have their head honcho, but may not want to announce it now because he may be with a current playoff team.....just speculating.
Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
They start today.
You really are incapable of ever admitting you are wrong.
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The Browns seem to be looking for the HC first, then hiring a GM that the HC would want to work with. That's why everyone is talking about the head coach position.
Now, I don't know what why they don't hire the GM, then let him hire the HC HE wants to work with, but apparently the Browns really want Paul DePodesta to run the head coaching search, not another new GM.
I am saying that it may be probable that both GM and HC will be subservients.
A DFO may be hired before either. I am thinking that the search there may be all on the low down....even that it may be possible that they have their head honcho, but may not want to announce it now because he may be with a current playoff team.....just speculating.
Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
M.McCarthy today.. my interest would be if Eliot Wolfe joins Dee/Jimmy/Depo/Johnson to interview https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-tns-bc-fbn-browns-coaching-search-20200102-story.html Playoff coaches see bottom of link..Depo your basic coaching hire day planner with a 2020 calendar
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Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
M.McCarthy today.. my interest would be if Eliot Wolfe joins Dee/Jimmy/Depo/Johnson to interview https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-tns-bc-fbn-browns-coaching-search-20200102-story.html Playoff coaches see bottom of link..Depo your basic coaching hire day planner with a 2020 calendar
M.McCarthy today.. my interest would be if Eliot Wolfe joins Dee/Jimmy/Depo/Johnson to interview https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-tns-bc-fbn-browns-coaching-search-20200102-story.html Playoff coaches see bottom of link..Depo your basic coaching hire day planner with a 2020 calendar
Somebody needs to send the Haslams the George Costanza episode on "the opposite", because every decision they have made has been shit. Either that or blindfold them and let them throw at a dartboard full names. Either method will improve our chances tenfold.??
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M.McCarthy today.. my interest would be if Eliot Wolfe joins Dee/Jimmy/Depo/Johnson to interview https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-tns-bc-fbn-browns-coaching-search-20200102-story.html Playoff coaches see bottom of link..Depo your basic coaching hire day planner with a 2020 calendar
Somebody needs to send the Haslams the George Costanza episode on "the opposite", because every decision they have made has been shit. Either that or blindfold them and let them throw at a dartboard full names. Either method will improve our chances tenfold.??
because every decision they have made has been shit. Either that or blindfold them and let them throw at a dartboard full names.
like many maybe, I have no confidence in them today in closing this rat race down... that's even if McCarthy blows them away... If they are dumbfounded enough, to wait on interviewing McDaniels? McCarthy will be signed elsewhere... If Baker's the guy? I trust McCarthy/contacts to get him right
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Not sure they could sign McCarthy today if they haven’t already interviewed a coach to satisfy the Rooney rule
Not sure they could sign McCarthy today if they haven’t already interviewed a coach to satisfy the Rooney rule
How do you think Gettelman feels over the Dorsey Firing?
Riddle this...
The Giants are interviewing Dallas's DC Kris Richard today (Rooney Rule applicant)
M.McCarthy will interview for Giants job Friday...
Edit--JD than takes job Jimma offered at giants..(if jags/skins don't hire him 1st as GM)
The Jimma Suckture
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I am saying that it may be probable that both GM and HC will be subservients.
A DFO may be hired before either. I am thinking that the search there may be all on the low down....even that it may be possible that they have their head honcho, but may not want to announce it now because he may be with a current playoff team.....just speculating.
Despite the "talk"...and the requests to interview.......notice that no actual interviews have taken place for a HC.
They start today.
You really are incapable of ever admitting you are wrong.
They start today.
You really are incapable of ever admitting you are wrong.
I was not wrong when I made that post....was I. As of yesterday, no one had been interviewed.
Beyond that....would they be doing things bass ackward if they hired the HC before they hired a GM...or someone who would be in charge of football operations?
Or...is it their intent to make the HC THE person in charge of football operations. (like BB in NE?)
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The Browns seem to be looking for the HC first, then hiring a GM that the HC would want to work with. That's why everyone is talking about the head coach position.
Now, I don't know what why they don't hire the GM, then let him hire the HC HE wants to work with, but apparently the Browns really want Paul DePodesta to run the head coaching search, not another new GM.
The Browns seem to be looking for the HC first, then hiring a GM that the HC would want to work with. That's why everyone is talking about the head coach position.
Now, I don't know what why they don't hire the GM, then let him hire the HC HE wants to work with, but apparently the Browns really want Paul DePodesta to run the head coaching search, not another new GM.
IIRC, the Browns went that route once already, hired the HC first and then the GM. Went over like a lead balloon. Please don't make the same mistake again, but I won't be surprised if the Haslams are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.
Likely because you can't interview any coach who is active in the playoffs I believe.
Yes you can, and "the rules" were posted elsewhere. I have a feeling that the Browns are only interviewing Bienemy to satisfy the Rooney rule.
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So....it seems to me that despite a lot of folderal on here about the HC position.....should we not be concentrating on who this Director of Football Operations would be......? Because I am hearing indications that that will be the priority position to fill.
And those would be non coach guys. (Like Guys we have had here in the past: Banner, Mike Holmgren)
Names brought up:
Peyton
Ozzie Newsome
I am going to say it: Bill Cowher
And FYI....the "GM"...or DPP.....would be a guy, perhaps, who is subsidiary to the HC. In essence, the HC would get to do some of the grocery shopping...or at least tell the DPP what to shop for
So....it seems to me that despite a lot of folderal on here about the HC position.....should we not be concentrating on who this Director of Football Operations would be......? Because I am hearing indications that that will be the priority position to fill.
And those would be non coach guys. (Like Guys we have had here in the past: Banner, Mike Holmgren)
Names brought up:
Peyton
Ozzie Newsome
I am going to say it: Bill Cowher
And FYI....the "GM"...or DPP.....would be a guy, perhaps, who is subsidiary to the HC. In essence, the HC would get to do some of the grocery shopping...or at least tell the DPP what to shop for
Bill Cowher's content with tv.
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Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Todd Monken was reportedly open about the team's dysfunction during the 2019 season.
According to Zac Jackson of The Athletic, Monken would tell opposing coaches prior to games that the Browns were a "total mess" and also suggested that there were inconsistencies between the game plans that were put in place and what happened on Sundays.
Monken, who served as the head coach at Southern Mississippi from 2013 until 2015, was brought in by Freddie Kitchens to be the Browns' offensive coordinator in 2019, but it was Kitchens who had play-calling responsibilities.
Kitchens spent part of 2018 as the Browns' offensive coordinator following the firing of head coach Hue Jackson. He seemed to work well with then-rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield and helped lead a Cleveland offense that ranked 13th in total yardage and 20th in scoring.
The Browns dropped to 22nd in both yardage and scoring this season, however, despite the fact that they acquired wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. via trade with the New York Giants. Cleveland also went from 7-8-1 in 2018 to 6-10 this season and extended its playoff drought to an NFL-worst 17 years.
As a result, Kitchens was fired after just one season as head coach, while the Browns and general manager John Dorsey mutually agreed to part ways.
With Kitchens and Dorsey gone, Monken's fate will be up to whomever the Browns hire as their new head coach and GM, but it is difficult to envision him returning in the wake of Jackson's story.
While there is plenty of work to do in Cleveland, whoever assumes the role of offensive coordinator will have plenty of talent to work with in 2020, including Mayfield, Beckham, running back Nick Chubb and wide receiver Jarvis Landry.
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The Browns seem to be looking for the HC first, then hiring a GM that the HC would want to work with. That's why everyone is talking about the head coach position.
Now, I don't know what why they don't hire the GM, then let him hire the HC HE wants to work with, but apparently the Browns really want Paul DePodesta to run the head coaching search, not another new GM.
IIRC, the Browns went that route once already, hired the HC first and then the GM. Went over like a lead balloon. Please don't make the same mistake again, but I won't be surprised if the Haslams are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.
Likely because you can't interview any coach who is active in the playoffs I believe.
Yes you can, and "the rules" were posted elsewhere. I have a feeling that the Browns are only interviewing Bienemy to satisfy the Rooney rule.
IIRC, the Browns went that route once already, hired the HC first and then the GM. Went over like a lead balloon. Please don't make the same mistake again, but I won't be surprised if the Haslams are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.
Yes you can, and "the rules" were posted elsewhere. I have a feeling that the Browns are only interviewing Bienemy to satisfy the Rooney rule.
they could interview the stadium floor sweeper... same difference...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
That was already posted elsewhere
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IIRC, the Browns went that route once already, hired the HC first and then the GM. Went over like a lead balloon. Please don't make the same mistake again, but I won't be surprised if the Haslams are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.
Yes you can, and "the rules" were posted elsewhere. I have a feeling that the Browns are only interviewing Bienemy to satisfy the Rooney rule.
they could interview the stadium floor sweeper... same difference...
they could interview the stadium floor sweeper... same difference...
Well, with DePodesta doing the HC search, why not interview "The Homeless Guy".
That analytics feller sure has an eye for talent. Um, NOT. Actually I'm not averse to them bringing back Andrew Berry in some capacity.
PS- from that organizational chart mjp posted in another thread- why not just promote Elliott Wolf from "Assistant GM" to GM? But that would be too simple. Elliott was already under consideration to be the next Packers GM. I have to wonder with all the BS that's flying around Berea currently if he's interested in sticking around- or sees the Browns organization as the Titanic that just hit the iceberg.... And if they hire McCarthy, do the two of them get along?
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haslem also said the head coach would be hired first and that the gm would come outside the organization
haslem also said the head coach would be hired first and that the gm would come outside the organization
Was that in his presser today
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Was that in his presser today
an hour ago
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