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  • Read in one of the reports of the day that it was not simply a matter of Depo preferring McDermott and Stefanski over Hue and Freddie respectively, but that he thought Jackson and Kitchens were really bad choices.

    If true, then it's no wonder why he's running this search.

    Also interesting that JW Johnson (employee, minority owner and son-in-law) is on the selection committee.

    @nickers said:

    Well I think they like Wolf a lot!... I think there's a strong chance he remains here...

    It's been reported that Wolf may be continuing in his current role, but will not be ascending to the GM role.

    @tour2ma said:

    Read in one of the reports of the day that it was not simply a matter of Depo preferring McDermott and Stefanski over Hue and Freddie respectively, but that he thought Jackson and Kitchens were really bad choices.

    If true, then it's no wonder why he's running this search.

    Also interesting that JW Johnson (employee, minority owner and son-in-law) is on the selection committee.

    It's been reported that Wolf may be continuing in his current role, but will not be ascending to the GM role.

    I wonder what his reaction would be if they brought back Berry as GM? Interesting that Andrew instantly found another job in the NFL, and Sashi didn't. 

    Could it be  part of Haslam's problem is that he's infatuated with Harvard guys? DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

  • @tour2ma said:

    Read in one of the reports of the day that it was not simply a matter of Depo preferring McDermott and Stefanski over Hue and Freddie respectively, but that he thought Jackson and Kitchens were really bad choices.

    If true, then it's no wonder why he's running this search.

    Also interesting that JW Johnson (employee, minority owner and son-in-law) is on the selection committee.

    It's been reported that Wolf may be continuing in his current role, but will not be ascending to the GM role.

    I wonder what his reaction would be if they brought back Berry as GM? Interesting that Andrew instantly found another job in the NFL, and Sashi didn't. 

    Could it be  part of Haslam's problem is that he's infatuated with Harvard guys? DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    I wonder what his reaction would be if they brought back Berry as GM? Interesting that Andrew instantly found another job in the NFL, and Sashi didn't. 

    Could it be  part of Haslam's problem is that he's infatuated with Harvard guys? DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

    Bring in Tommy Lee Jones then.   He did too....and he would at least be entertaining.

    LivelyLightheartedAfricanrockpython-max-

  • 4 of 12 Playoff teams..49'ers/Hawks/Bills/KC.. Head Coach had influence in picking GM

    2= Texans & Pats Head Coach is GM

    1 = Saints Sean Payton has maybe earned Personal say

    So really maybe 7 of 12 playoff teams have Viewed the HC as having had a GM influence.. 

    Now both, hand in hand, reporting matters to a Jimmy Haslam? Oh Christ!!   

  • 4 of 12 Playoff teams..49'ers/Hawks/Bills/KC.. Head Coach had influence in picking GM

    2= Texans & Pats Head Coach is GM

    1 = Saints Sean Payton has maybe earned Personal say

    So really maybe 7 of 12 playoff teams have Viewed the HC as having had a GM influence.. 

    Now both, hand in hand, reporting matters to a Jimmy Haslam? Oh Christ!!   

    @gumby73 said:

    4 of 12 Playoff teams..49'ers/Hawks/Bills/KC.. Head Coach had influence in picking GM

    2= Texans & Pats Head Coach is GM

    1 = Saints Sean Payton has maybe earned Personal say

    So really maybe 7 of 12 playoff teams have Viewed the HC as having had a GM influence.. 

    Now both, hand in hand, reporting matters to a Jimmy Haslam? Oh Christ!!   

    It's not a bad idea for the HC and GM to be on the same page or even work together.

    Parcells said he and Patriots owner Robert Kraft eventually made peace in the matter, which stemmed from the coach not having final say over the roster. It also spawned the famous quote from Parcells, “If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”Jun 24, 2013

    Now in the BROWNS case I guess we'll see where it goes next.

  • @gumby73 said:

    4 of 12 Playoff teams..49'ers/Hawks/Bills/KC.. Head Coach had influence in picking GM

    2= Texans & Pats Head Coach is GM

    1 = Saints Sean Payton has maybe earned Personal say

    So really maybe 7 of 12 playoff teams have Viewed the HC as having had a GM influence.. 

    Now both, hand in hand, reporting matters to a Jimmy Haslam? Oh Christ!!   

    It's not a bad idea for the HC and GM to be on the same page or even work together.

    Parcells said he and Patriots owner Robert Kraft eventually made peace in the matter, which stemmed from the coach not having final say over the roster. It also spawned the famous quote from Parcells, “If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”Jun 24, 2013

    Now in the BROWNS case I guess we'll see where it goes next.

    @mjp28 said:

    It's not a bad idea for the HC and GM to be on the same page or even work together.

    No Shit Sherlock.

    Parcells said he and Patriots owner Robert Kraft eventually made peace in the matter, which stemmed from the coach not having final say over the roster. It also spawned the famous quote from Parcells, “If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries.”Jun 24, 2013

    Now in the BROWNS case I guess we'll see where it goes next.

    Too many Cooks spoil the broth?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Read in one of the reports of the day that it was not simply a matter of Depo preferring McDermott and Stefanski over Hue and Freddie respectively, but that he thought Jackson and Kitchens were really bad choices.

    If true, then it's no wonder why he's running this search.

    Also interesting that JW Johnson (employee, minority owner and son-in-law) is on the selection committee.

    It's been reported that Wolf may be continuing in his current role, but will not be ascending to the GM role.

    I wonder what his reaction would be if they brought back Berry as GM? Interesting that Andrew instantly found another job in the NFL, and Sashi didn't. 

    Could it be  part of Haslam's problem is that he's infatuated with Harvard guys? DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

    Analytic skills are Organization skills are not enhanced by playing football.

  • @hoorta said:

    DePodesta, Sashi, and Berry. At least on the plus side for Berry- he actually played football at Harvard.  🙂  

    Analytic skills are Organization skills are not enhanced by playing football.

    @tour2ma said:

    Analytic skills are Organization skills are not enhanced by playing football.

    Some of histories best owners, managers and coaches among others plus broadcasters and journalists "never played the game".

  • the only thing Jimmy hasn’t  done, is sell the team and get the hell out of town

  • the only thing Jimmy hasn’t  done, is sell the team and get the hell out of town

    @browns149 said:

    the only thing Jimmy hasn’t  done, is sell the team and get the hell out of town

    Not gonna happen.   He and his wife are invested in the NFL...plus he has his kids/son-in-law involved now.  That family is in for the long term.

    But...how about this wild speculation:

    Jimmy's heart is really in Tennessee.   The heirs of Bud Adams own the Titans: 

     Ownership of the Titans is now controlled by the consortium of the children and grandchildren of Bud (under the banner of KSA Industries)-- daughters Susie Smith and Amy Strunk, grandsons Kenneth S. Adams IV and Barclay Adams, and their mother Susan Lewis. Strunk owns the largest share of the team, 1/3, and is the team’s controlling owner.

    What we can conjecture is that maybe the Adams family could agree to trade their franchise for Jimmy's (maybe all those kids and grandkids would rather not own a football team...this has happened) , and they could agree to sell the Browns. Or Jimmy could agree to sell the Browns and buy the Tits. 

    How could we make this happen?

  • @browns149 said:

    the only thing Jimmy hasn’t  done, is sell the team and get the hell out of town

    Not gonna happen.   He and his wife are invested in the NFL...plus he has his kids/son-in-law involved now.  That family is in for the long term.

    But...how about this wild speculation:

    Jimmy's heart is really in Tennessee.   The heirs of Bud Adams own the Titans: 

     Ownership of the Titans is now controlled by the consortium of the children and grandchildren of Bud (under the banner of KSA Industries)-- daughters Susie Smith and Amy Strunk, grandsons Kenneth S. Adams IV and Barclay Adams, and their mother Susan Lewis. Strunk owns the largest share of the team, 1/3, and is the team’s controlling owner.

    What we can conjecture is that maybe the Adams family could agree to trade their franchise for Jimmy's (maybe all those kids and grandkids would rather not own a football team...this has happened) , and they could agree to sell the Browns. Or Jimmy could agree to sell the Browns and buy the Tits. 

    How could we make this happen?

    @the-gipper said:

    Not gonna happen.   He and his wife are invested in the NFL...plus he has his kids/son-in-law involved now.  That family is in for the long term.

    But...how about this wild speculation:

    Jimmy's heart is really in Tennessee.   The heirs of Bud Adams own the Titans: 

     Ownership of the Titans is now controlled by the consortium of the children and grandchildren of Bud (under the banner of KSA Industries)-- daughters Susie Smith and Amy Strunk, grandsons Kenneth S. Adams IV and Barclay Adams, and their mother Susan Lewis. Strunk owns the largest share of the team, 1/3, and is the team’s controlling owner.

    What we can conjecture is that maybe the Adams family could agree to trade their franchise for Jimmy's (maybe all those kids and grandkids would rather not own a football team...this has happened) , and they could agree to sell the Browns. Or Jimmy could agree to sell the Browns and buy the Tits. 

    How could we make this happen?

    ya and then we could trade teams with the 49ers 

    I see you working 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Not gonna happen.   He and his wife are invested in the NFL...plus he has his kids/son-in-law involved now.  That family is in for the long term.

    But...how about this wild speculation:

    Jimmy's heart is really in Tennessee.   The heirs of Bud Adams own the Titans: 

     Ownership of the Titans is now controlled by the consortium of the children and grandchildren of Bud (under the banner of KSA Industries)-- daughters Susie Smith and Amy Strunk, grandsons Kenneth S. Adams IV and Barclay Adams, and their mother Susan Lewis. Strunk owns the largest share of the team, 1/3, and is the team’s controlling owner.

    What we can conjecture is that maybe the Adams family could agree to trade their franchise for Jimmy's (maybe all those kids and grandkids would rather not own a football team...this has happened) , and they could agree to sell the Browns. Or Jimmy could agree to sell the Browns and buy the Tits. 

    How could we make this happen?

    ya and then we could trade teams with the 49ers 

    I see you working 

    @atom said:

    ya and then we could trade teams with the 49ers 

    I see you working 

    Its been done before.     Once upon a time Robert Irsay owned the Rams, then traded them to Carroll Rosenbloom who owned the Colts.   Irsay family, as you know, still owns the Colts.     Also....Art Rooney once traded the Steelers for the Philadelphia Eagles....then he traded back for them:

    https://lastwordonprofootball.com/2019/07/28/trading-an-nfl-franchise-a-brief-history/

  • @atom said:

    ya and then we could trade teams with the 49ers 

    I see you working 

    Its been done before.     Once upon a time Robert Irsay owned the Rams, then traded them to Carroll Rosenbloom who owned the Colts.   Irsay family, as you know, still owns the Colts.     Also....Art Rooney once traded the Steelers for the Philadelphia Eagles....then he traded back for them:

    https://lastwordonprofootball.com/2019/07/28/trading-an-nfl-franchise-a-brief-history/

    @the-gipper said:

    Its been done before.     Once upon a time Robert Irsay owned the Rams, then traded them to Carroll Rosenbloom who owned the Colts.   Irsay family, as you know, still owns the Colts.     Also....Art Rooney once traded the Steelers for the Philadelphia Eagles....then he traded back for them:

    https://lastwordonprofootball.com/2019/07/28/trading-an-nfl-franchise-a-brief-history/

    lets get the 9 ers

    if your gonna dream 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Its been done before.     Once upon a time Robert Irsay owned the Rams, then traded them to Carroll Rosenbloom who owned the Colts.   Irsay family, as you know, still owns the Colts.     Also....Art Rooney once traded the Steelers for the Philadelphia Eagles....then he traded back for them:

    https://lastwordonprofootball.com/2019/07/28/trading-an-nfl-franchise-a-brief-history/

    lets get the 9 ers

    if your gonna dream 

    @atom said:

    lets get the 9 ers

    if your gonna dream 

    We would not get another team.  We would get a new owner:   And we need a 3 way deal, wouldn't we?  Tenn. native  Haslam gets the Tits.   NEOhio native DeBartolo/Yorks get the Browns.....who gets the 49ers?

    Here is a whole list of candidates, wealthiest in the Bay area
     

    https://www.businessinsider.com/richest-people-in-silicon-valley-wealth-2019-4#1-mark-zuckerberg-25

    Most interesting names:    Mark Zuckerberg.    Elon Musk.   George Lucas!

    None own NFL teams as of now.....maybe some own some other sports teams. MLB/NHL/NBA?