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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    Georgia had high hopes for a final four spot but still had a good season.  Fromm won't be in the top 3 but will all of the soon to be retiring quarterbacks should get some good looks at the workouts.

    Georgia fell short of the College Football Playoff for the second straight season. The Bulldogs finished with a 12–2 record, their only losses coming to South Carolina and LSU.

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  • He'll be in it. Has declared. Hope he doesn't fall to the stupid Patriots. How high in the first round if he goes go in the first round?

    An SI article on his best fit possibilities: If he jumps to the top ten, that could really help the Browns' chances of getting their top desired pick to fall to them at ten?

    https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/jake-fromm-best-fit-for-2020-nfl-draft

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    He'll be in it. Has declared. Hope he doesn't fall to the stupid Patriots. How high in the first round if he goes go in the first round?

    An SI article on his best fit possibilities: If he jumps to the top ten, that could really help the Browns' chances of getting their top desired pick to fall to them at ten?

    https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/jake-fromm-best-fit-for-2020-nfl-draft

    Pats have Jason Stitham.  Is Fromm considered an upgrade from him?  

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    QB
     
     
    RK PLAYER SCHOOL YEAR POS POS RK HT WT    
    2 Joe Burrow LSU Sr QB 1 6-4 216    
    4 Tua Tagovailoa Alabama Jr QB 2 6-1 218    
    28 Jacob Eason Washington Jr QB 3 6-6 227    
    33 Justin Herbert Oregon Sr QB 4 6-6 237    
    55 Jake Fromm Georgia Jr QB 5 6-2 220    
    58 Jordan Love Utah St. Jr QB 6 6-4 225    
    91 Jalen Hurts Oklahoma Sr QB 7 6-2 218    
    Per CBS here, they give him a late 2d round grade.
  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by Ibleedbrown

    I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

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  • I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

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    But...he is not wearing khakis.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

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    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

  • @the-gipper said:

    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

    I guess that has left you out then? 

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

    I guess that has left you out then? 

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    I guess that has left you out then? 

    Well duh

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

  • @the-gipper said:

    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The meme does say “only intellectuals will get it.” Oooh burnnn...

    How about it's so easy even a dimwit will get it?

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    I can get Fromm's case to go Day 1 more than I can Herbert's. The latter makes more WTF? throws than any "top prospect" in recent memory.

  • I can get Fromm's case to go Day 1 more than I can Herbert's. The latter makes more WTF? throws than any "top prospect" in recent memory.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    @tour2ma said:

    I can get Fromm's case to go Day 1 more than I can Herbert's. The latter makes more WTF? throws than any "top prospect" in recent memory.

    You wonder how this year's QB class compares with the recent classes of ready to go step in starters......or still the apparent gold standard of 1983?

    They new kids on the block seen to be great RPO well trained ready to go players similar to the more recent RBs and WRs.

    Even with the newer "soft" rules on the skill players you wonder if this new crop of run/pass quarterbacks will make it 10+ years?  Maybe 5+?

  • @tour2ma said:

    I can get Fromm's case to go Day 1 more than I can Herbert's. The latter makes more WTF? throws than any "top prospect" in recent memory.

    You wonder how this year's QB class compares with the recent classes of ready to go step in starters......or still the apparent gold standard of 1983?

    They new kids on the block seen to be great RPO well trained ready to go players similar to the more recent RBs and WRs.

    Even with the newer "soft" rules on the skill players you wonder if this new crop of run/pass quarterbacks will make it 10+ years?  Maybe 5+?

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    You wonder how this year's QB class compares with the recent classes of ready to go step in starters......or still the apparent gold standard of 1983?

    They new kids on the block seen to be great RPO well trained ready to go players similar to the more recent RBs and WRs.

    Even with the newer "soft" rules on the skill players you wonder if this new crop of run/pass quarterbacks will make it 10+ years?  Maybe 5+?

    Good question and good insight. I feel like we’ve been chomping at the bit for the multi-dimensional QB superstar since Michael Vick. He was the first guy l recall who was going to transform the NFL with his arm and his legs.

    But l think the “effectiveness to shelf life” ratio wasn’t there, nor was it for RG3. But what about Cam Newton? And Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson?

    Michael Vick was drafted 20 years ago, but it planted a seed. We could very well be on the dawn of it, where the superstar do it all QB becomes a thing in the pro game, but how long do they last and how many are behind them to replace them?

  • @mjp28 said:

    You wonder how this year's QB class compares with the recent classes of ready to go step in starters......or still the apparent gold standard of 1983?

    They new kids on the block seen to be great RPO well trained ready to go players similar to the more recent RBs and WRs.

    Even with the newer "soft" rules on the skill players you wonder if this new crop of run/pass quarterbacks will make it 10+ years?  Maybe 5+?

    Good question and good insight. I feel like we’ve been chomping at the bit for the multi-dimensional QB superstar since Michael Vick. He was the first guy l recall who was going to transform the NFL with his arm and his legs.

    But l think the “effectiveness to shelf life” ratio wasn’t there, nor was it for RG3. But what about Cam Newton? And Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson?

    Michael Vick was drafted 20 years ago, but it planted a seed. We could very well be on the dawn of it, where the superstar do it all QB becomes a thing in the pro game, but how long do they last and how many are behind them to replace them?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @ibleedbrown said:

    ... and how many are behind them to replace them?

    Plus how many accomplished, conventional, pocket passers will there be to choose from?

    The RPO is so much easier to teach at every position that it's dominant at every level except the NFL.

  • I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

    I hadn't noticed. LOL

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I coulda sworn a year or 2 ago Fromm was considered the next big thing at QB.

    Does anyone else think it’s funny that there’s a Tua and a Fromm in this years’ QB draft class?

    CAD4A8F1-0787-47FA-B938-EBCD5A66E7C5.jpeg

    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    But...he is not wearing khakis.

    Jake from state farm

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    ... and how many are behind them to replace them?

    Plus how many accomplished, conventional, pocket passers will there be to choose from?

    The RPO is so much easier to teach at every position that it's dominant at every level except the NFL.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    @tour2ma said:

    Plus how many accomplished, conventional, pocket passers will there be to choose from?

    The RPO is so much easier to teach at every position that it's dominant at every level except the NFL.

    Similar to the old wishbone, flexbone and triple option offenses which teams like NAVY, AF and really very few others run well today.

    Your quarterback is the key and it's really hard to prepare for it you don't see many or any on your schedule.

    The only problem is that your quarterback takes a beating and if he goes out you need a good backup or your offense must go to plan B, quick.

    You might get by with it in college -but-  in the pros everyone is bigger, faster, stronger and hit harder and it's just a matter of time before your QB is in the medical tent.

    That's why the pros prefer the quick drop back quick release quarterbacks that can do everything......if you can find one, the franchise QBs.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    Evening, friends.  It's Dry-Uary for myself and I have to be up tomorrow to meet family,  so I'll be spending the weekend with the classic R&R, putting on some music and watching tape.   Going to circle back around to Bravvion Roy, DI, Texas tonight.        Feel free to tag along.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    Roy vs Texas

    Love this kids eyes when he's on a block.   He looks good playing a shade, better than a classic heads up nose IMHO.  He also has a strong base but light feet as a big man.  Looks to use his arms when firing into initial contact as opposed to most guys that size who just go banging around down low body contact first.  (Another kid with quick feet who couldn't put it together was Xavier Cooper)   Bravvion doesn't look to have those eyes, hands, feet sync issue.      

    I also like that his feet don't stop moving as he is working through blockers and crashing down the line.   When he's singled up on the center he won quite a bit and at worst would continuously control his man, then look to disengage and secure a tackle.  

    I'm all about the bigger body interior pluggers mid to late round.  So far, between the Oklahoma, WVU and Texas tape, Roy continues to have me hoping that the Browns keep an eye on his draft stock, combine performance, etc etc.     There is nothing sexy about his game, it's just nasty, down low, trenches type football.   This Dline could use a good deal of that on quality rotation up the middle.