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I don't know how anyone can say that McDaniels IS the best OC in NFL. That doesn't mean he isn't good, or that he couldn't/shouldn't be the next HC. But saying it as if it is a proven fact isn't right.
He has had the benefit of the best QB ever, and arguably the best coach.
But he's learned from the GOAT of modern day coaches longer than any other of Bill's assistants (I think). Having Tom #12 sure didn't hurt. And it's up for debate how much that helped Josh. The argument he drafted Tebow in Denver doesn't fly, because I doubt he would have final say on the draft in Cleveland.
McDaniels is going to interview with the Giants on Wednesday. And that's where it will end. We are scheduled to meet with him on Friday.....but he'll have been a Giant for two days already by then. And that's ok with me. Anyone who drafted Tebow in the first round is not someone that I would want in charge of too much. That was laughable. (wait, that would mean that he would fit right in with us).
I know that he's from the area......but really, who in their right mind would want to be a HC under Jimmy Haslam....when you have options?
The only reason that I would want McDaniels is so that Haslam could have 'his' guy and MAYBE give him a little time to right the ship.
Not so fast my friend. Entirely possible Josh could tell the Giants "I have a few more interviews to do, I'll let you know". McDaniels will for sure have his choice of landing spots, and with his Cleveland roots, who's to say? Haslam bad owner? How about Gettelman bad GM? HMMM? Plus the pressure cooker of the NY media. Dry roasted Shure-loss after a couple of years.
But he's learned from the GOAT of modern day coaches longer than any other of Bill's assistants (I think). Having Tom #12 sure didn't hurt. And it's up for debate how much that helped Josh. The argument he drafted Tebow in Denver doesn't fly, because I doubt he would have final say on the draft in Cleveland.
Not so fast my friend. Entirely possible Josh could tell the Giants "I have a few more interviews to do, I'll let you know". McDaniels will for sure have his choice of landing spots, and with his Cleveland roots, who's to say? Haslam bad owner? How about Gettelman bad GM? HMMM? Plus the pressure cooker of the NY media. Dry roasted Shure-loss after a couple of years.
Well, that is a question in any situation like this: How much were those guys accomplishments the result of his input, or how much of his success was the result of their input. Probably impossible to measure really.
I'm not even saying that he couldn't be the best OC, and I certainly think he is qualified to be the next HC.
But, I take issue with anyone not thinking without question he is the best OC and if not they have serious problems.
As with Brady/Belichick, taking one away from the other could result in significant changes in history. We have never seen Brady without BB, but I am certainly not of the mind that taking BB tenure in Cleveland to prove what he would be without Brady. Because he also had quite the success in NY, and Parcells didn't have nearly the results without BB.
And if the argument is that McDaniels is the best OC left after some of the better ones left in last few years, well it didn't show this season, or really a whole lot last. What have you done for me lately. Roman took a QB who was thought of as RG3 2.0 and made him the MVP. He isn't getting the credit he deserves. And no, before its said I am not making a case for Roman. And then you have the teams where the HC is the real OC/Play caller, such as Andy Reid.
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I don't know that you can quantify who is the "best OC".
We try to do it with HCs and QBs......look at their win loss record; look at their championship account. I guess if we turned to that to quantify an OC or DC.....then the mulitple SBs his teams have won while he was OC must very much be counted in the plus column for him.
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Good updates crew, thanks & keep them coming..
Ryan Daboll i'll update as confirmed Interviewed.Post #2..
Scott Petrak can confirm the browns requested to interview with Philly's DC *Jim Schwartz* .. Josh McDaniel's now set for Friday (book it
) any confirmed day set for Stefanski yet? ?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Good updates crew, thanks & keep them coming..
Ryan Daboll i'll update as confirmed Interviewed.Post #2..
Scott Petrak can confirm the browns requested to interview with Philly's DC *Jim Schwartz* .. Josh McDaniel's now set for Friday (book it
) any confirmed day set for Stefanski yet? ?
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Good updates crew, thanks & keep them coming..
Ryan Daboll i'll update as confirmed Interviewed.Post #2..
Scott Petrak can confirm the browns requested to interview with Philly's DC *Jim Schwartz* .. Josh McDaniel's now set for Friday (book it
) any confirmed day set for Stefanski yet? ?
Good updates crew, thanks & keep them coming..
Ryan Daboll i'll update as confirmed Interviewed.Post #2..
Scott Petrak can confirm the browns requested to interview with Philly's DC *Jim Schwartz* .. Josh McDaniel's now set for Friday (book it
) any confirmed day set for Stefanski yet? ?
Schwartz? Another name in the hopper.
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Good updates crew, thanks & keep them coming..
Ryan Daboll i'll update as confirmed Interviewed.Post #2..
Scott Petrak can confirm the browns requested to interview with Philly's DC *Jim Schwartz* .. Josh McDaniel's now set for Friday (book it
) any confirmed day set for Stefanski yet? ?
Schwartz? Another name in the hopper.
Schwartz? Another name in the hopper.
McDilly Dally Daniels wants us to wait till Friday? Keep Them Coming...adding Jimmy Schwartz can't hurt this defense
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My DC apparently made a splash...
Report: Robert Saleh’s interview ‘went very well. Cleveland Browns leaving room to be swayed’ in coaching search
Reportedly, San Francisco 49ers assistant coach Robert Saleh made a very positive impression during his interview with the Cleveland Browns.Author: Matthew Florjancic Published: 5:07 PM EST January 6, 2020 Updated: 5:07 PM EST January 6, 2020CLEVELAND — The Cleveland Browns have interviewed five men for their head coaching vacancy with reportedly at least two more candidates to meet with the search committee of owner Jimmy Haslam, chief strategist Paul DePodesta and executives Chris Cooper and JW Johnson.
While there are installed favorites for the Browns’ next coach, including offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels (New England Patriots) and Kevin Stefanski (Minnesota Vikings), an unheralded contender apparently has made the search a little more interesting.
According to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler, the interview with San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh “went very well” because he “had good football and staff ideas.”
Fowler further reported the Browns are “leaving room to be swayed.”
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
My DC apparently made a splash...
Report: Robert Saleh’s interview ‘went very well. Cleveland Browns leaving room to be swayed’ in coaching search
Reportedly, San Francisco 49ers assistant coach Robert Saleh made a very positive impression during his interview with the Cleveland Browns.Author: Matthew Florjancic Published: 5:07 PM EST January 6, 2020 Updated: 5:07 PM EST January 6, 2020CLEVELAND — The Cleveland Browns have interviewed five men for their head coaching vacancy with reportedly at least two more candidates to meet with the search committee of owner Jimmy Haslam, chief strategist Paul DePodesta and executives Chris Cooper and JW Johnson.
While there are installed favorites for the Browns’ next coach, including offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels (New England Patriots) and Kevin Stefanski (Minnesota Vikings), an unheralded contender apparently has made the search a little more interesting.
According to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler, the interview with San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh “went very well” because he “had good football and staff ideas.”
Fowler further reported the Browns are “leaving room to be swayed.”
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Saleh ... has garned some attention only after he has gotten the best front 7 in the league...
His D has improved each of the three years he has been DC. Clearly he is helping to identify needs and successfully integrating draft picks into his D. That ain't nothing and it sure beats wasting talent.
Saleh caught my eye early and nothing I've read has put me off of him.
Around the NFL: Saleh reportedly interviewed well for the Browns job
When you are successful, other teams are going to want in on what you are doing. It’s no surprise that San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh is making the interview rounds. Saleh interviewed with the Cleveland Browns over the weekend, and according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler, the interview went very well. Fowler said, “I’m told Robert Saleh’s interview with Browns went very well -- met with Jimmy Haslam and Paul DePodesta, had good football and staff ideas. Continue to hear Josh McDaniels and Kevin Stefanski are early favorites but Browns leaving room to be swayed.”
Jeremy Fowler@JFowlerESPNI'm told Robert Saleh's interview with Browns went very well -- met with Jimmy Haslam and Paul DePodesta, had good football and staff ideas. Continue to hear Josh McDaniels and Kevin Stefanski are early favorites but Browns leaving room to be swayed.His D has improved each of the three years he has been DC. Clearly he is helping to identify needs and successfully integrating draft picks into his D. That ain't nothing and it sure beats wasting talent.
Saleh caught my eye early and nothing I've read has put me off of him.
Well, then. I didn't know Saleh was that young. Probably would do a better job with Williams and Ward than Wilks did.
It is Roman, Saleh and then McDaniels for me. I'm not going to cry for missing out McCarthy.
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His D has improved each of the three years he has been DC. Clearly he is helping to identify needs and successfully integrating draft picks into his D. That ain't nothing and it sure beats wasting talent.
Saleh caught my eye early and nothing I've read has put me off of him.
Well, then. I didn't know Saleh was that young. Probably would do a better job with Williams and Ward than Wilks did.
It is Roman, Saleh and then McDaniels for me. I'm not going to cry for missing out McCarthy.
Well, then. I didn't know Saleh was that young. Probably would do a better job with Williams and Ward than Wilks did.
It is Roman, Saleh and then McDaniels for me. I'm not going to cry for missing out McCarthy.
I'm not upset on missing out on McCarthy either. But the same argument against Saleh can be used on McDaniels. Saleh is coaching a loaded defense, as McDaniels offense with the GOATS of coaching and qbs in New England. How good is Roman since the Ravens caught lightning in a bottle with Lamar?
My preference as of now is McDaniels, but I won't be shocked if the Browns pick someone else.....
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McDaniels to interview with Giants before Browns on Friday...(Gettleman, "No Josh, that's why they hired me"
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In some 1st Browns GM news.. Mike Garafalo reports that Trent Kirchner or Scott Fitterer from Seahawks, could become Browns GM names to keep a eye on..Jimmy admires Hawks sustained success (oh really?)..
Pending Coach? 1 of 2 could emerge as a strong Browns GM Candidate (1-5-20/Garafalo)
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Jimmy and Dee read my post ....they are interviewing Jim Schwartz
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I think all the teams except us have a HC now. Panthers went with Ruhle and the Giants just hired some Pats assistant coach. So lets get this buttoned up, I think my preference is for Roman if I had to pick, I am concerned it might be McDaniels.
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And now the Giants have Judge.
McDaniel to Cleveland here we go
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Joe Judge hired by Giants Never even heard that name
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Giants probably figured McDaniels to the Browns is certain.
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And now the Giants have Judge.
McDaniel to Cleveland here we go
And now the Giants have Judge.
Talk about an outside-the-box darkhorse... first I heard his name was the announcement that he'd been hired.
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I think all the teams except us have a HC now. Panthers went with Ruhle and the Giants just hired some Pats assistant coach. So lets get this buttoned up, I think my preference is for Roman if I had to pick, I am concerned it might be McDaniels.
I think all the teams except us have a HC now. Panthers went with Ruhle and the Giants just hired some Pats assistant coach. So lets get this buttoned up...
Why hurry now?
I don't think we lost "our guy" to anybody else and we are the last job out there. Seems like taking our time would be prudent.
Finish the opening round... hold a couple callback interviews... deliberate... hire... move on to the GM role.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And now the Giants have Judge.
Talk about an outside-the-box darkhorse... first I heard his name was the announcement that he'd been hired.
Talk about an outside-the-box darkhorse... first I heard his name was the announcement that he'd been hired.
Special teams coach helped the Pats WR this year. Potential Miss State HC candidate.
yeah it was left field.
Another rumor is Garrett as the OC
Wow Giants fan base has to be slightly upset
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