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  • Canton Dawg Canton DawgC Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    The Browns’ courtship of New England Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is back on.

    In the aftermath of firing Freddie Kitchens on Sunday, the team requested permission to interview McDaniels for its head coaching vacancy, a person familiar with the situation confirmed Monday for the Beacon Journal.

    By rule, the interview cannot take place until after the Patriots host the Tennessee Titans for a wild-card playoff game at 8:15 p.m. Saturday.

    Despite McDaniels being interested in the Browns’ opening last year, they didn’t interview him. He interviewed with the Green Bay Packers, who hired Matt LaFleur.

    “I have had no contact with them,” McDaniels said Jan. 8 of the Browns.

    Browns General Manager John Dorsey led the coaching search that ended with the hiring of Kitchens, who went 6-10 in his only season on the job.

    ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Dorsey’s job security is fluid because the new head coach of the Browns is expected to have input on whether the GM is retained or fired.

    Dorsey was asked on Jan. 14 why the Browns didn’t hire McDaniels.

    “Did [McDaniels] make the final list? No, he didn’t make the final list, but we’re making a decision that is best for the organization moving forward,” Dorsey said after the Browns hired Kitchens.

    The inclusion of McDaniels, a Canton McKinley High School graduate, this time around points to Dorsey likely not having as much authority in this coaching search as he did in the last one. The Browns have yet to explain their process for this search, but Dorsey is expected to address media Tuesday.

    Some national reporters have speculated Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta will have more power. He reportedly wanted to hire Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski instead of Kitchens. Those two became the finalists for the job with Dorsey’s choice prevailing in Kitchens.

    There is indeed a divide between the scouting side of the front office, which includes Dorsey, assistant GM Eliot Wolf and vice president of player personnel Alonzo Highsmith, and the research, data and analytics side led by DePodesta, a person familiar with the arrangement said.

    Jimmy Haslam is a McDaniels fan. McDaniels interviewed with the Browns owner in 2014 during the coaching search that resulted in the hiring of Mike Pettine. But McDaniels withdrew himself from consideration because he decided the time wasn’t right to leave the Patriots.

    McDaniels, 43, has been at the side of coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady for nine Super Bowls, six of which the Patriots won.

    McDaniels went 11-17 as the head coach of the Denver Broncos from 2009-10. He began his tenure 6-0 but was fired after Week 13 of the 2010 season, losing 17 of his last 22 games.

    Two years ago, McDaniels backed out of an agreement to become the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, whose GM, Chris Ballard, is a friend of Dorsey and worked with him in the front office of the Kansas City Chiefs.

    Asked whether McDaniels bailing on the Colts precluded the Browns from interviewing him in the last coaching search, Dorsey said, “Absolutely not.”

    ESPN reported Washington plans to hire former Carolina Panthers coach Ron Rivera, so it appears he won’t be a possibility for the Browns.

    https://www.cantonrep.com/sports/20191230/browns-request-permission-to-interview-patriots-oc-josh-mcdaniels-for-head-coaching-vacancy

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      Eeeeewwww

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Reading that article made me feel like Billy Pilgrim....

        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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          Reading that article made me feel like Billy Pilgrim....

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          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Reading that article made me feel like Billy Pilgrim....

          Ha! Unstuck in time?

          I thought of an older text. Almost sounds like Dorsey getting a little Magna Carta treatment.

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            B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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            Fuck every New England Patriots flunky go get a grown up like mike McCarthy 

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              I’d take McCarthy over Daniels

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                @tour2ma said:

                Reading that article made me feel like Billy Pilgrim....

                Ha! Unstuck in time?

                I thought of an older text. Almost sounds like Dorsey getting a little Magna Carta treatment.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                @ibleedbrown said:

                Ha! Unstuck in time? 

                Ed Zachery...

                "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                  jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                  "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                    The bottom line for me.... I don't trust Josh McDaniels... I'll take a hard pass..

                    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      NO, DAMMIT.

                      It's easier to know who the Browns should NOT hire as hc, by far.

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                        M MDDawg wrote on last edited by
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                        Not excited by McDaniels but who knows at this point?

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                        • Browns149B Browns149

                          I’d take McCarthy over Daniels

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                          flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by flyingfooldoug
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                          @browns149 said:

                          I’d take McCarthy over Daniels

                          125-77-2  as Parcells would say, he owns that record. 

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                            The bottom line for me.... I don't trust Josh McDaniels... I'll take a hard pass..

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                            flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                            @nickers said:

                            The bottom line for me.... I don't trust Josh McDaniels... I'll take a hard pass..

                            He doesn’t have to do much. BB controls everything about gameday. Josh just does as he’s told. Coffee anyone?

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                              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                              Losing 17 of the last 22 in Denver as HC is no sin really. This was a team that only had Champ Bailey as a decent player. Miller was drafted the following year and Manning showed up  a year later while the team added far greater talent to make Superbowl runs. McDaniels had crappy players to work with there. That would not be the case in Cleveland when the OL gets fixed.

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                IMO if McDaniels gets hired as HC, Dorsey is out as GM. 

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                                  IMO if McDaniels gets hired as HC, Dorsey is out as GM. 

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  IMO if McDaniels gets hired as HC, Dorsey is out as GM. 

                                  Why?

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    IMO if McDaniels gets hired as HC, Dorsey is out as GM. 

                                    Why?

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Why?

                                    Nick Caserio, McDaniels teammate at John Carroll and current Patriots Player Personnel Director, could be a package deal with McDaniels. 

                                    This is at least the third time the Haslams have wanted to interview McDaniels. 

                                    If he says yes, I have a strong feeling it will come with demands from the Haslams. 

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Why?

                                      Nick Caserio, McDaniels teammate at John Carroll and current Patriots Player Personnel Director, could be a package deal with McDaniels. 

                                      This is at least the third time the Haslams have wanted to interview McDaniels. 

                                      If he says yes, I have a strong feeling it will come with demands from the Haslams. 

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      Nick Caserio, McDaniels teammate at John Carroll and current Patriots Player Personnel Director, could be a package deal with McDaniels. 

                                      This is at least the third time the Haslams have wanted to interview McDaniels. 

                                      If he says yes, I have a strong feeling it will come with demands from the Haslams. 

                                      Interesting.

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                                        S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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                                        Just about signed and sealed...

                                        Any guesses on D Coordinator?

                                        GM? 

                                        QB coach?

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