Browns targeting Rams DC Wade Phillips
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Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett, maybe we can trade Myles to Chicago?
Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett,
The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
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You forgot the homeless guy
....he's in charge of drafting QB's now that Dorsey is gone.
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Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett,
The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?
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The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?
If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?
.....turns out.
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Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett,
The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
Dutch was just talking out of his ass...
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Friday, May 05, 2017 03:49 AM
How the Browns reached the decision to take Myles Garrett at No. 1
The Browns had a lens trained on Myles Garrett for more than a year, hoping they’d somehow land the star defensive end from Texas A&M in the 2017 NFL Draft.
Executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown, who gave a wide-ranging interview on Mike & Mike on Thursday morning, outlined the process behind making Garrett the first-overall pick.
Brown said Cleveland long coveted the dynamic edge rusher before ever learning it would hold the No. 1 pick.
“Myles really was the guy that, from the start of the football season and prior to that, we had our eyes on and were watching,” Brown said. “Obviously we didn’t know we’d be in the No. 1 position at that point, but a guy that really since he entered the SEC as a freshman had lit the league on fire.”
Garrett, who amassed 31 sacks and 47 tackles for loss in three seasons at Texas A&M, figures to emerge as an immediate playmaker on a Browns defense that finished 31st among 32 teams in sacks last season.
Brown said Cleveland reached a consensus to take Garrett at No.1 “a couple weeks before the draft” after “just taking in the information and making sure that we were sure about everything.”
“We have a lot of discussion internally in our building really pushing on things really even if there's consensus, we really push on those types of decisions to make sure we’re not overlooking anything,” Brown said.
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No shit. That's the rumor Kubiak and Phillips come along with stefanski.
That would be great. If ? ?
WSS
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No shit. That's the rumor Kubiak and Phillips come along with stefanski.
That would be great. If ? ?
WSS
No shit. That's the rumor Kubiak and Phillips come along with stefanski.
Not sure there's a "the rumor" yet, but certainly seeing both names as a rumor.
Interesting tidbit for the Stef naysay-crew... turns out the idea to being in Kubiak to save Stef was Stef's idea... at least according to one account.
Vikings assistant head coach and offensive advisor Gary Kubiak would be another potential hire. Stefanski recommended the addition of Kubiak last offseason to install a similar system to what has made San Francisco more successful all season.
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Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Garrett's play as a DT has already proven he could handle it if you add a few more lbs of muscle. Or with his Von Miller speed you make him one of the OLBs.
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Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
The essence of his scheme is tailoring the roles to fit the skill of the players on his team. You know, like a good coach.
Read this article - especially the part about what to do with the leftover DE from the prior season's 4-3 front - Quinn. "Quinn only has to contain the edge and rush the passer." -- and if you called that role "DE" that sounds an awful lot like a 4-3. Call it whatever you want as long as it works...
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The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you? You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks. The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve. The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB. Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.
Dutch was just talking out of his ass...
CLEAN UP ON AISLE OVEN!
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Friday, May 05, 2017 03:49 AM
How the Browns reached the decision to take Myles Garrett at No. 1
The Browns had a lens trained on Myles Garrett for more than a year, hoping they’d somehow land the star defensive end from Texas A&M in the 2017 NFL Draft.
Executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown, who gave a wide-ranging interview on Mike & Mike on Thursday morning, outlined the process behind making Garrett the first-overall pick.
Brown said Cleveland long coveted the dynamic edge rusher before ever learning it would hold the No. 1 pick.
“Myles really was the guy that, from the start of the football season and prior to that, we had our eyes on and were watching,” Brown said. “Obviously we didn’t know we’d be in the No. 1 position at that point, but a guy that really since he entered the SEC as a freshman had lit the league on fire.”
Garrett, who amassed 31 sacks and 47 tackles for loss in three seasons at Texas A&M, figures to emerge as an immediate playmaker on a Browns defense that finished 31st among 32 teams in sacks last season.
Brown said Cleveland reached a consensus to take Garrett at No.1 “a couple weeks before the draft” after “just taking in the information and making sure that we were sure about everything.”
“We have a lot of discussion internally in our building really pushing on things really even if there's consensus, we really push on those types of decisions to make sure we’re not overlooking anything,” Brown said.
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Dutch was just talking out of his ass...
CLEAN UP ON AISLE OVEN!
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How's the view of DePodesta's colon, since your head is up to your shoulders up in it?
Oh I'm sure this was just a bullshit report, all the talk of late about this very thing is just nonsense, completely made up. Anything that paints your precious "THE PROCESS" in a negative light must be extinguished! ALL HAIL THE PROCESS! HEIL DEPODESTA!
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Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Phillips runs a 4-3 under scheme, which would be a slight change for the Browns, but what has made Phillips so successful is his ability to adjust his scheme to his talent. The Browns obviously have an immense amount of talent on the defensive front anchored by Myles Garrett, Sheldon Richardson and Olivier Vernon, but if he can maximize Denzel Ward and Greedy Williams, the Browns could be a good defense quickly.
https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/reports-cleveland-browns-to-hire-wade-phillips-andrew-berry
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Wade will be 73 in June... I'm shocked he keeps wanting DC jobs.... but if he wants one more I'm good with that. He always seems to instantly produce a great D, but never quite sustains it.
Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land? The HC? DePodesta? The son-in-law?
I'd be shocked if it's not Stef that has final say, but candidate input from others would seem wise. Stef's spent almost his entire career in MN, so he's not been exposed to the broadcast of coaching cross-sections.
Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett, maybe we can trade Myles to Chicago?
It did??? Then why isn't Trubs a Brown???
Wade will be 73 in June... I'm shocked he keeps wanting DC jobs.... but if he wants one more I'm good with that. He always seems to instantly produce a great D, but never quite sustains it.
I'd be shocked if it's not Stef that has final say, but candidate input from others would seem wise. Stef's spent almost his entire career in MN, so he's not been exposed to the broadcast of coaching cross-sections.
It did??? Then why isn't Trubs a Brown???
To what age did Dick LeBeau continue to be a DC....in checking, he was the Tits DC until 2017......when he was 80.
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No shit. That's the rumor Kubiak and Phillips come along with stefanski.
That would be great. If ? ?
WSS
No shit. That's the rumor Kubiak and Phillips come along with stefanski.
That would be great. If ? ?
WSS
Maybe you just started it. That is how rumors happen.
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I'm all about Wade Phillips.
I'm all about Wade Phillips.
Yessir. A legend of a coach. And most players grew up watching him on TV. So I would imagine that they listen to what he has to say.
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Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?
Garrett's play as a DT has already proven he could handle it if you add a few more lbs of muscle. Or with his Von Miller speed you make him one of the OLBs.
Garrett's play as a DT has already proven he could handle it if you add a few more lbs of muscle. Or with his Von Miller speed you make him one of the OLBs.
WAAAAAAY different type of play than what Myles has been brought in on sub packages.
Besides, I'm not going to take my best edge and make him a DI.
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Garrett's play as a DT has already proven he could handle it if you add a few more lbs of muscle. Or with his Von Miller speed you make him one of the OLBs.
WAAAAAAY different type of play than what Myles has been brought in on sub packages.
Besides, I'm not going to take my best edge and make him a DI.
WAAAAAAY different type of play than what Myles has been brought in on sub packages.
Besides, I'm not going to take my best edge and make him a DI.
Me neither. But I could see standing up like Von in a 3-4 if they take that route. But I have a feeling we stick with 4-3.
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Me neither. But I could see standing up like Von in a 3-4 if they take that route. But I have a feeling we stick with 4-3.
LEO in the Under, mostly.
edit: That would actually include LEO in bear, double eagle and 'condensed' 1 gap fronts under Phillips.
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