Alex Van Pelt - OC
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Despair is.. really not the right reaction here.
There's a time when he was a coveted hire
Rodgers didn't want to let him go
Van Pelt's impact on Cincy - "if you’re asking me who’s an early front-runner for Bengals coach of the year, it’s Van Pelt"
There's plenty of despair, doom and gloom making the rounds now.
There's plenty of despair, doom and gloom making the rounds now.
It is all a symptom of mistrust
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It is all a symptom of mistrust
To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
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It is all a symptom of mistrust
To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns!
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It is all a symptom of mistrust
To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
Precisely
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To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust
He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns!
He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns!
Except Jimmah knew nothing about that program...
... hummm...
Maybe we need the Rebate Mgr running the team...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns!
Except Jimmah knew nothing about that program...
... hummm...
Maybe we need the Rebate Mgr running the team...
Except Jimmah knew nothing about that program...
... hummm...
Maybe we need the Rebate Mgr running the team...
Jimmy couldn't be accountable for those rebates kind of like no one specifically could be held accountable for the clusterfuck that was The Process. I'm starting to see his never-dying love for it!
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Recent Pat McManamon article in the Athletic. The site said l could share the article with a friend, so l linked above. Let me know if it holds up.
I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview.
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Recent Pat McManamon article in the Athletic. The site said l could share the article with a friend, so l linked above. Let me know if it holds up.
I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview.
I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview.
It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws.
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I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview.
It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws.
It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws.
I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!!
Mike
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It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws.
I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!!
Mike
I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!!
Mike
Interesting to hear about Van Pelt not wanting Baker to get his own QB coach in the offseason. Probably the first time I've heard of that, but it makes sense. Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something like, "I don't need someone to tell me how to do a 3 step drop. If it needs work, I'll critique myself."
I don't know the exact context, but I know that wasn't what I wanted to hear. It was obvious to everyone that Baker was missing the intermediate throws (normally high, which means you can't throw over the middle), was locking on PRE-SNAP (especially in red zone), and he wasn't staying in the pocket. I can understand not staying in the pocket, as our OL wasn't great in pass protection, but Baker darted out to his right FAR too often instead of stepping up and defenses were all to ready for it.
You ready for the good news? OK, but before we get to it, we need a little history. Remember when the Vikings broke the bank and gave Kirk Cousins like the biggest guaranteed contract ever? Well, Kirk Cousins then went out and set the world on fire, right? Well, kind of. Although he threw 30 tds against 10 picks, the offense was clunky and Minnesota actually let go of their OC during the season and none other than Kevin Stefanski finished the year in the role.
The offense got better under Stefanski and he was invited back to be the OC for the 2019 season where Minnesota enjoyed a versatile attack that heavily relied on the ground game and devastating play-action passing attacks. If you want to see what Minnesota's offense looks like just check out the YouTube highlights of their games, or you can watch the San Francisco 49's offense. They look very similar (with obvious differences of course) and they rely on multiple variations of the exact same formation to confuse defenses.
OK, so you remember when the 49's beat our asses into the ground? Remember how there were receivers wide open, running backs gashing us, and essentially we couldn't do anything to stop them? Yeah...that's what will happen if a defense isn't prepared properly, and THAT'S what our offense CAN look like. Can anybody tell me the names of the 49's best wide receivers? Other than Kittle, I have no clue. Imagine our offense looking like theirs but with Chubb, OBJ, and Landry.
Would anybody say that Garoppolo or Cousins are more talented than Baker Mayfield? Throw better? I don't think so. So if you put Baker in a similar offense to what the Vikings and 49's ran, is it fair to expect similar results? I think it is, especially when we bring in a real TE and fullback. Don't forget, our TEs were garbage last year and I had no faith in any of them. If I had to see Baker force that play-action pass over the middle to Harris ONE more time, I would have gone crazy.
Stefanski in Minnesota was all about detail, which will be a stark contrast to Kitchens. Be prepared for a total culture shock and a baptism of sorts. I'm telling you, it's going to be night and day different in terms of preparation and play-calling, I know it. Remember when we'd get into the red zone, like inside the 5, and it was total chaos? Now, it got better with the arrival of Hunt, but Jesus we looked lost sometimes. Remember against Buffalo when it took 47 plays inside the 3 to score and our own PLAYERS were calling for the FG?! Have you ever seen that before?
Now, obviously I have no way of being certain of anything, as I'm just some idiot who loves the Browns and drank too much coffee this morning which propelled me into writing this novel. There's one last thing I wanted to discuss (I know, I know) and that's our OL. We had the exact same tackles last year as the 2018 year yet virtually everyone is bemoaning how terrible they are, including me. In 2018 after Williams and Kitchens took over we'd had near historic levels of OL play. Like, we weren't counting sacks, we were counting QB "touches". Baker literally didn't get TOUCHED sometimes. So what happened last year?
Playcalling happened, that's what. Teams knowing what we're doing, predictable calls, calling the same play multiple times in a row, calling plays we haven't practiced in weeks...ALL sorts of problems. Those kinds of errors will be gone. I don't think we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows, I mean, this is freakin Cleveland. But we're going to be better, and by better I mean fighting for playoffs...finally.
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I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!!
Mike
Interesting to hear about Van Pelt not wanting Baker to get his own QB coach in the offseason. Probably the first time I've heard of that, but it makes sense. Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something like, "I don't need someone to tell me how to do a 3 step drop. If it needs work, I'll critique myself."
I don't know the exact context, but I know that wasn't what I wanted to hear. It was obvious to everyone that Baker was missing the intermediate throws (normally high, which means you can't throw over the middle), was locking on PRE-SNAP (especially in red zone), and he wasn't staying in the pocket. I can understand not staying in the pocket, as our OL wasn't great in pass protection, but Baker darted out to his right FAR too often instead of stepping up and defenses were all to ready for it.
You ready for the good news? OK, but before we get to it, we need a little history. Remember when the Vikings broke the bank and gave Kirk Cousins like the biggest guaranteed contract ever? Well, Kirk Cousins then went out and set the world on fire, right? Well, kind of. Although he threw 30 tds against 10 picks, the offense was clunky and Minnesota actually let go of their OC during the season and none other than Kevin Stefanski finished the year in the role.
The offense got better under Stefanski and he was invited back to be the OC for the 2019 season where Minnesota enjoyed a versatile attack that heavily relied on the ground game and devastating play-action passing attacks. If you want to see what Minnesota's offense looks like just check out the YouTube highlights of their games, or you can watch the San Francisco 49's offense. They look very similar (with obvious differences of course) and they rely on multiple variations of the exact same formation to confuse defenses.
OK, so you remember when the 49's beat our asses into the ground? Remember how there were receivers wide open, running backs gashing us, and essentially we couldn't do anything to stop them? Yeah...that's what will happen if a defense isn't prepared properly, and THAT'S what our offense CAN look like. Can anybody tell me the names of the 49's best wide receivers? Other than Kittle, I have no clue. Imagine our offense looking like theirs but with Chubb, OBJ, and Landry.
Would anybody say that Garoppolo or Cousins are more talented than Baker Mayfield? Throw better? I don't think so. So if you put Baker in a similar offense to what the Vikings and 49's ran, is it fair to expect similar results? I think it is, especially when we bring in a real TE and fullback. Don't forget, our TEs were garbage last year and I had no faith in any of them. If I had to see Baker force that play-action pass over the middle to Harris ONE more time, I would have gone crazy.
Stefanski in Minnesota was all about detail, which will be a stark contrast to Kitchens. Be prepared for a total culture shock and a baptism of sorts. I'm telling you, it's going to be night and day different in terms of preparation and play-calling, I know it. Remember when we'd get into the red zone, like inside the 5, and it was total chaos? Now, it got better with the arrival of Hunt, but Jesus we looked lost sometimes. Remember against Buffalo when it took 47 plays inside the 3 to score and our own PLAYERS were calling for the FG?! Have you ever seen that before?
Now, obviously I have no way of being certain of anything, as I'm just some idiot who loves the Browns and drank too much coffee this morning which propelled me into writing this novel. There's one last thing I wanted to discuss (I know, I know) and that's our OL. We had the exact same tackles last year as the 2018 year yet virtually everyone is bemoaning how terrible they are, including me. In 2018 after Williams and Kitchens took over we'd had near historic levels of OL play. Like, we weren't counting sacks, we were counting QB "touches". Baker literally didn't get TOUCHED sometimes. So what happened last year?
Playcalling happened, that's what. Teams knowing what we're doing, predictable calls, calling the same play multiple times in a row, calling plays we haven't practiced in weeks...ALL sorts of problems. Those kinds of errors will be gone. I don't think we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows, I mean, this is freakin Cleveland. But we're going to be better, and by better I mean fighting for playoffs...finally.
Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things.
Even the world's top golfers have swing coaches...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things.
Even the world's top golfers have swing coaches...
Even the world's top golfers have swing coaches...
I pointed out it's even more so in the sport I was 1\2 decent in- tennis. ALL the top players have coaches. Serving a tennis ball is sort of like hitting a drive off the tee.... Just because you've done it 100,000 times before doesn't mean you can't get out of whack and not know why.....
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Van Pelt's presser is on the team site.
He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well.
And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right.
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Van Pelt's presser is on the team site.
He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well.
And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right.
Van Pelt's presser is on the team site.
He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well.
And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right.
You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either.
I think he gets it. Don’t get cute...you have talented skill guys, spread them out there’s bound to be mismatch...Baker needs to find the open guy
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Van Pelt's presser is on the team site.
He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well.
And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right.
You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either.
I think he gets it. Don’t get cute...you have talented skill guys, spread them out there’s bound to be mismatch...Baker needs to find the open guy
You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either.
I might argue that an awful lot was asked of the TE group last year and they maybe weren’t put in the best position to succeed. Stuff like having the TE block the other team’s star DE within the play call.
I also think Baker’s change up is a work in progress. There’s that certain style of timing touch pass that seems mighty effective with TEs and RBs from the backfield that Baker hasn’t quite got the hang of.
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Van Pelt's presser is on the team site.
He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well.
And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right.
You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either.
I think he gets it. Don’t get cute...you have talented skill guys, spread them out there’s bound to be mismatch...Baker needs to find the open guy
You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last
I'd argue the OL...but...Njoku had an off year and, not that Fells was a great TE but he was pretty good and for some unknown reason we let him go to replace him with Pharoh Brown...who's no where near as good as Fells.
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You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either.
I might argue that an awful lot was asked of the TE group last year and they maybe weren’t put in the best position to succeed. Stuff like having the TE block the other team’s star DE within the play call.
I also think Baker’s change up is a work in progress. There’s that certain style of timing touch pass that seems mighty effective with TEs and RBs from the backfield that Baker hasn’t quite got the hang of.
I might argue that an awful lot was asked of the TE group last year and they maybe weren’t put in the best position to succeed. Stuff like having the TE block the other team’s star DE within the play call.
Correct. Yes, we had TE's schemed to block DE's. And TE's are no match for DE's. We had some poorly designed offensive plays.
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You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last
I'd argue the OL...but...Njoku had an off year and, not that Fells was a great TE but he was pretty good and for some unknown reason we let him go to replace him with Pharoh Brown...who's no where near as good as Fells.
Njoku had
an off yeara year offFIFY....
I know David's not played to his Draft status, but you can't lose your top guy in a position room in Game 2 and expect the group to shine.
He had a decent Week 1 (4 catches, 9+ YPR, 1 TD). He needed the full season for his development.
I'm curious to see what 2020 brings. Three Vike TEs combined for 105 receptions, 800+ yds and 8 TDs.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Njoku had
an off yeara year offFIFY....
I know David's not played to his Draft status, but you can't lose your top guy in a position room in Game 2 and expect the group to shine.
He had a decent Week 1 (4 catches, 9+ YPR, 1 TD). He needed the full season for his development.
I'm curious to see what 2020 brings. Three Vike TEs combined for 105 receptions, 800+ yds and 8 TDs.
FIFY....
I know David's not played to his Draft status, but you can't lose your top guy in a position room in Game 2 and expect the group to shine.
He had a decent Week 1 (4 catches, 9+ YPR, 1 TD). He needed the full season for his development.
I'm curious to see what 2020 brings. Three Vike TEs combined for 105 receptions, 800+ yds and 8 TDs.
I honestly think and believe this is Njoku's last year here to put it together.. I hope he does.. he's a great kid... He's one of those kids I'm pullin' for... He may never be complete.. But He's not without talent....
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