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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @nickers said:

    I dunno ask him.. He's shopping for the groceries...

    You are the one that brought it up....so I figured you knew your way around the matter since you griped about it. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #18

    @the-gipper said:

    You are the one that brought it up....so I figured you knew your way around the matter since you griped about it. 

    Well I guess you missed the part where I said " SPARQ players no ones heard of that completely SUCK!" means I don't KNOW!

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @the-gipper said:

    You are the one that brought it up....so I figured you knew your way around the matter since you griped about it. 

    Well I guess you missed the part where I said " SPARQ players no ones heard of that completely SUCK!" means I don't KNOW!

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #19

    @nickers said:

    Well I guess you missed the part where I said " SPARQ players no ones heard of that completely SUCK!" means I don't KNOW!

    Well then, find out and report back to us so that we won't be surprised. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @nickers said:

    Well I guess you missed the part where I said " SPARQ players no ones heard of that completely SUCK!" means I don't KNOW!

    Well then, find out and report back to us so that we won't be surprised. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #20

    @the-gipper said:

    Well then, find out and report back to us so that we won't be surprised. 

    Thats not my job 😛

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @the-gipper said:

    Well then, find out and report back to us so that we won't be surprised. 

    Thats not my job 😛

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #21

    @nickers said:

    Thats not my job 😛

    Sure it is.  You brought the subject up.  That puts you in charge!   Isn't that the military way of doing things? 😮

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @nickers said:

    Thats not my job 😛

    Sure it is.  You brought the subject up.  That puts you in charge!   Isn't that the military way of doing things? 😮

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #22

    @the-gipper said:

    Sure it is.  You brought the subject up.  That puts you in charge!   Isn't that the military way of doing things? 😮

    Go have a Manhattan and chill dude..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @the-gipper said:

    Sure it is.  You brought the subject up.  That puts you in charge!   Isn't that the military way of doing things? 😮

    Go have a Manhattan and chill dude..

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #23

    @nickers said:

    Go have a Manhattan and chill dude..

    I have been to both Manhattan New York and Manhattan Kansas. 

    👍
  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #24

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    ATOMA S 2 Replies
  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #25

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/nfl-draft-2020-day-2-safeties-who-could-fit-in-the-cleveland-browns-secondary-film-review.html

    Nice write up on my second round choice, Kyle Dugger. ha !

  • C calfoxwc

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/nfl-draft-2020-day-2-safeties-who-could-fit-in-the-cleveland-browns-secondary-film-review.html

    Nice write up on my second round choice, Kyle Dugger. ha !

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #26

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/nfl-draft-2020-day-2-safeties-who-could-fit-in-the-cleveland-browns-secondary-film-review.html

    Nice write up on my second round choice, Kyle Dugger. ha !

    So?  You Dig Dugger?  OK 🙄

    😂
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on
    #27

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    another thing this may be a stretch but what if a qb needy team go's the fa route instead of the draft it would push quality players down to us

  • ATOMA ATOM

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    another thing this may be a stretch but what if a qb needy team go's the fa route instead of the draft it would push quality players down to us

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #28

    @atom said:

    another thing this may be a stretch but what if a qb needy team go's the fa route instead of the draft it would push quality players down to us

    Well actually the more QBs that are selected 1-9 would push quality non QBs to us.  
     

    But I think a guy like Tua or Herbert slides in that 10 spot - we are Money.  There are a glut of teams just behind us with potential QB needs anyone could trade up and we really don’t fall that far. 

  • S SdBacker80

    @atom said:

    another thing this may be a stretch but what if a qb needy team go's the fa route instead of the draft it would push quality players down to us

    Well actually the more QBs that are selected 1-9 would push quality non QBs to us.  
     

    But I think a guy like Tua or Herbert slides in that 10 spot - we are Money.  There are a glut of teams just behind us with potential QB needs anyone could trade up and we really don’t fall that far. 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on
    #29

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well actually the more QBs that are selected 1-9 would push quality non QBs to us.  
     

    But I think a guy like Tua or Herbert slides in that 10 spot - we are Money.  There are a glut of teams just behind us with potential QB needs anyone could trade up and we really don’t fall that far. 

    so both would help us out 

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #30

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    Depends on where he landed...
    Washington? why would Washington sign a guy like Armstead when they have a cheaper arguably more productive option available with Chase Young.  

    C 1 Reply
  • ATOMA ATOM

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well actually the more QBs that are selected 1-9 would push quality non QBs to us.  
     

    But I think a guy like Tua or Herbert slides in that 10 spot - we are Money.  There are a glut of teams just behind us with potential QB needs anyone could trade up and we really don’t fall that far. 

    so both would help us out 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #31

    @atom said:

    so both would help us out 

    They could.....

    probably the worst case scenario 3 QBs taken, all the OT worthy of Top 10 gone and elite defenders off the board.  
     

    I think Tua slides maybe Herbert too. In that case..our potential picks are gone but we get calls from 12-16 to go get one of those guys.  These teams probably don’t want to mortgage their entire future for a bigger move up too 

  • S SdBacker80

    @atom said:

    so both would help us out 

    They could.....

    probably the worst case scenario 3 QBs taken, all the OT worthy of Top 10 gone and elite defenders off the board.  
     

    I think Tua slides maybe Herbert too. In that case..our potential picks are gone but we get calls from 12-16 to go get one of those guys.  These teams probably don’t want to mortgage their entire future for a bigger move up too 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on
    #32

    @sdbacker80 said:

    They could.....

    probably the worst case scenario 3 QBs taken, all the OT worthy of Top 10 gone and elite defenders off the board.  
     

    I think Tua slides maybe Herbert too. In that case..our potential picks are gone but we get calls from 12-16 to go get one of those guys.  These teams probably don’t want to mortgage their entire future for a bigger move up too 

    then woo f ing hoo draft tua 😉

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #33

    My comments were more at implying should the Browns pursue Armstead.

    The GipperT S 2 Replies
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    My comments were more at implying should the Browns pursue Armstead.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #34

    @tiamat63 said:

    My comments were more at implying should the Browns pursue Armstead.

    Why not?  We can always use more talent.

  • S SdBacker80

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wonder how the mock might be affected should the Niners let Arik Armstead go...

    Depends on where he landed...
    Washington? why would Washington sign a guy like Armstead when they have a cheaper arguably more productive option available with Chase Young.  

    C calfoxwc wrote on
    #35

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Depends on where he landed...
    Washington? why would Washington sign a guy like Armstead when they have a cheaper arguably more productive option available with Chase Young.  

    YEP.

    Tiam said "the mock"...

    which mock? my mock draft? as in, I didn't draft a IDL til round 5?

     Washington can very well let Armstead go, because he'll command a huge salary with his next team. As in, Washington is drafting second overall, has huge money in all their defensive front line... how can that affect my mock draft? If they tag Armstead, he will not be a happy football player for them for a year. If Washington goes ahead and drafts Chase Young, which would figure nicely - they have a young star DE that will be with them for years. and they need a qb and offensive line help. They could use the cap space to help that. maybe.

    Even if Washington were to draft a qb, or even an OT - it wouldn't affect my mock draft.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #36

    Armstead is with SF... WSH would sign him as an FA and opposite Chase he'd make some sense. They could afford both for at least four years.

    If WSH drafted an OT at #2 (doubtful), then it could start an OT run. More likely if they decided to go OT that they would start a biding war for Chase, trade down a few spots and grab their OT.

    Not feeling QB for them... not two years in a row.

    On your mock...

    1. Jones... agree can trade down for him unless a run starts early... in which case it'd be a mistake to take him at #10, IMO. If either Wills or Thomas is there, you take them as unlike Jones they are "plug n play" LTs. Jones has talent, but needs work... a lot of work. The OT that'd give me fits considering at 10 is Becton... I've seen boards with him higher than Thomas.

    2. Dugger... I like the kid, too... but not this high. Very talented and deep Safety class. No need to reach. This feels to me like the spot to go LB or DT hunting... maybe even interior OL.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    My comments were more at implying should the Browns pursue Armstead.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #37

    @tiamat63 said:

    My comments were more at implying should the Browns pursue Armstead.

    I’m all for that.

    You have Chase Young and Derrick Brown as Top 10 front 4 guys.  Any team targeting those two probably won’t touch Armstead.  
     

    Redskins have former first rounders Sweat, Kerrigan and Allen.  Adding Young and Armstead doubtful.  But I think Young is headed there for sure. 

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