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  • Flugel FlugelF Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    Here's a cut and paste of 10 players the Browns should have had their eyes on at the Senior Bowl. 

    G Ben Bredeson - Michigan (6-5, 325)

    He's the top-rated guard in the draft, according to ESPN draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. He was a second-team All-American and was considered the best pass-blocking guard in college football last year, according to Pro Football Focus.

    S Ashtyn Davis - Cal (6-1, 200)

    Davis might just be the best safety available behind two underclassmen in this year's draft class -- Clemson's Isaiah Simmons and LSU's Grant Delpit -- who are projected to go in the top half of the draft. Davis collected seven interceptions over his final three seasons with the Bears.

    S Kyle Dugger - Lenoir-Rhyne (6-2, 220)

    He played in just seven games as a senior, but it was enough to earn the Cliff Harris Award, given annually to the best Division II defensive player. Dugger was also a stud on special teams, racking up 929 punt return yards and six touchdowns over his career.

    TE Brycen Hopkins - Purdue (6-5, 245)

    The Nashville native shined in his fifth year with the program, catching 61 passes for 830 yards and seven touchdowns. He had at least one catch of 50 yards or longer in three of his four seasons, including a 72-yarder in 2019.

    DT Javon Kinlaw - South Carolina (6-6, 310)

    Kinlaw might just be the top overall prospect in this year's game. The interior pass rusher is ranked second at his position by Kiper and is projected by some to come off the board in the first half of the first round.

    OT Josh Jones - Houston (6-7, 310)

    The three popular top picks at tackle -- Iowa's Tristan Wirfs, Georgia's Andrew Thomas and Alabama's Jedrick Wills -- aren't in Mobile, but Jones very well could be the top option behind them. Jones, who was a four-year starter for the Cougars, was mentioned as a first-round possibility by Senior Bowl Executive Director Jim Nagy in a media session Monday.

    DE Terrell Lewis - Alabama (6-5, 252)

    An All-SEC second-team selection, Lewis tied for fifth in the conference with 11.5 tackles for loss and was eighth with six sacks. Kiper ranks him as the fourth-best outside linebacker in the draft.

    OT Matt Peart - UConn (6-7, 303)

    The Kingston, Jamaica, native was a four-year starter for the Huskies. The fifth-best tackle according to Kiper, Peart received high praise from Nagy, who said Peart could be this year's version of Tytus Howard, a small-school tackle in last year's game who wound up becoming a first-round pick.

    TE Jared Pinkey - Vanderbilt (6-4, 260)

    The top available tight end according to Kiper, Pinkney is coming off a senior season in which his production dropped from the previous year, but he still boasts some of the best athleticism at the position. He caught 20 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns after posting 50 catches for 774 yards and seven touchdowns as a junior.

    LB Zack Baun - Wisconsin (6-3, 235)

    A consensus All-Big Ten first-team selection, Baun is coming off a big senior season in which he compiled 76 tackles, 12.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss. Baun was listed Tuesday by Hall of Famer Gil Brandt as one of the top five players in the game.

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      My boy Baun getting looks by the Browns... cool. 

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        Baun would be a great pick.  Pass rush/coverage and looks like he can hold up at the line of scrimmage.  I wouldn't be upset if we traded back a bit and picked him...He's the classic Raven or Steeler pick that they beat us with for 8-10 years.  I'm sure those two will target him. 

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          Here's a cut and paste of 10 players the Browns should have had their eyes on at the Senior Bowl. 

          G Ben Bredeson - Michigan (6-5, 325)

          He's the top-rated guard in the draft, according to ESPN draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. He was a second-team All-American and was considered the best pass-blocking guard in college football last year, according to Pro Football Focus.

          S Ashtyn Davis - Cal (6-1, 200)

          Davis might just be the best safety available behind two underclassmen in this year's draft class -- Clemson's Isaiah Simmons and LSU's Grant Delpit -- who are projected to go in the top half of the draft. Davis collected seven interceptions over his final three seasons with the Bears.

          S Kyle Dugger - Lenoir-Rhyne (6-2, 220)

          He played in just seven games as a senior, but it was enough to earn the Cliff Harris Award, given annually to the best Division II defensive player. Dugger was also a stud on special teams, racking up 929 punt return yards and six touchdowns over his career.

          TE Brycen Hopkins - Purdue (6-5, 245)

          The Nashville native shined in his fifth year with the program, catching 61 passes for 830 yards and seven touchdowns. He had at least one catch of 50 yards or longer in three of his four seasons, including a 72-yarder in 2019.

          DT Javon Kinlaw - South Carolina (6-6, 310)

          Kinlaw might just be the top overall prospect in this year's game. The interior pass rusher is ranked second at his position by Kiper and is projected by some to come off the board in the first half of the first round.

          OT Josh Jones - Houston (6-7, 310)

          The three popular top picks at tackle -- Iowa's Tristan Wirfs, Georgia's Andrew Thomas and Alabama's Jedrick Wills -- aren't in Mobile, but Jones very well could be the top option behind them. Jones, who was a four-year starter for the Cougars, was mentioned as a first-round possibility by Senior Bowl Executive Director Jim Nagy in a media session Monday.

          DE Terrell Lewis - Alabama (6-5, 252)

          An All-SEC second-team selection, Lewis tied for fifth in the conference with 11.5 tackles for loss and was eighth with six sacks. Kiper ranks him as the fourth-best outside linebacker in the draft.

          OT Matt Peart - UConn (6-7, 303)

          The Kingston, Jamaica, native was a four-year starter for the Huskies. The fifth-best tackle according to Kiper, Peart received high praise from Nagy, who said Peart could be this year's version of Tytus Howard, a small-school tackle in last year's game who wound up becoming a first-round pick.

          TE Jared Pinkey - Vanderbilt (6-4, 260)

          The top available tight end according to Kiper, Pinkney is coming off a senior season in which his production dropped from the previous year, but he still boasts some of the best athleticism at the position. He caught 20 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns after posting 50 catches for 774 yards and seven touchdowns as a junior.

          LB Zack Baun - Wisconsin (6-3, 235)

          A consensus All-Big Ten first-team selection, Baun is coming off a big senior season in which he compiled 76 tackles, 12.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss. Baun was listed Tuesday by Hall of Famer Gil Brandt as one of the top five players in the game.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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          @flugel said:

          Here's a cut and paste of 10 players the Browns should have had their eyes on at the Senior Bowl. 

          G Ben Bredeson - Michigan (6-5, 325)

          He's the top-rated guard in the draft, according to ESPN draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. He was a second-team All-American and was considered the best pass-blocking guard in college football last year, according to Pro Football Focus.

          S Ashtyn Davis - Cal (6-1, 200)

          Davis might just be the best safety available behind two underclassmen in this year's draft class -- Clemson's Isaiah Simmons and LSU's Grant Delpit -- who are projected to go in the top half of the draft. Davis collected seven interceptions over his final three seasons with the Bears.

          S Kyle Dugger - Lenoir-Rhyne (6-2, 220)

          He played in just seven games as a senior, but it was enough to earn the Cliff Harris Award, given annually to the best Division II defensive player. Dugger was also a stud on special teams, racking up 929 punt return yards and six touchdowns over his career.

          TE Brycen Hopkins - Purdue (6-5, 245)

          The Nashville native shined in his fifth year with the program, catching 61 passes for 830 yards and seven touchdowns. He had at least one catch of 50 yards or longer in three of his four seasons, including a 72-yarder in 2019.

          DT Javon Kinlaw - South Carolina (6-6, 310)

          Kinlaw might just be the top overall prospect in this year's game. The interior pass rusher is ranked second at his position by Kiper and is projected by some to come off the board in the first half of the first round.

          OT Josh Jones - Houston (6-7, 310)

          The three popular top picks at tackle -- Iowa's Tristan Wirfs, Georgia's Andrew Thomas and Alabama's Jedrick Wills -- aren't in Mobile, but Jones very well could be the top option behind them. Jones, who was a four-year starter for the Cougars, was mentioned as a first-round possibility by Senior Bowl Executive Director Jim Nagy in a media session Monday.

          DE Terrell Lewis - Alabama (6-5, 252)

          An All-SEC second-team selection, Lewis tied for fifth in the conference with 11.5 tackles for loss and was eighth with six sacks. Kiper ranks him as the fourth-best outside linebacker in the draft.

          OT Matt Peart - UConn (6-7, 303)

          The Kingston, Jamaica, native was a four-year starter for the Huskies. The fifth-best tackle according to Kiper, Peart received high praise from Nagy, who said Peart could be this year's version of Tytus Howard, a small-school tackle in last year's game who wound up becoming a first-round pick.

          TE Jared Pinkey - Vanderbilt (6-4, 260)

          The top available tight end according to Kiper, Pinkney is coming off a senior season in which his production dropped from the previous year, but he still boasts some of the best athleticism at the position. He caught 20 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns after posting 50 catches for 774 yards and seven touchdowns as a junior.

          LB Zack Baun - Wisconsin (6-3, 235)

          A consensus All-Big Ten first-team selection, Baun is coming off a big senior season in which he compiled 76 tackles, 12.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss. Baun was listed Tuesday by Hall of Famer Gil Brandt as one of the top five players in the game.

          Projections on when each may be taken? And we sure could use a kick returner 

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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            A definite OL, DL and a few miscellaneous players on that list.

            ....... edit add, and it will be a plus to have a ready to go Myles Garrett back.

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              They say Baun wants to play off ball linebacker...guess who is comp is? yep, one Joe Schobert. They say their games are very similar in that both were hybrid DE's in college but had the athleticism to play off ball. 

              I still think depending on how the board is set-up to fall, the Browns will seriously consider trading down from 10 into the 13-16 range and taking a guy like Josh Jones. Which would drive fans more crazy if they "theoretically overdraft a guy" like jones at 10 or if they trade down in general? I have a sense it would be the trade down...

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                Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

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                  Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @7moses7 said:

                  Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

                  Devin Bush.

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                    I could see Baun coming into the mix if Schobert see's anything close to a CJ Mosley deal that we ain't paying.. What we need is a serious run thumper at ILB.. and this draft is slim..Was Woods at Denver when Danny Trevathan was still there? has Trevathan even hit age 30 yet? am off to offer google a market value to buy some thuggery  ?

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                      Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

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                      @7moses7 said:

                      Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

                      Leroy Hoard. 

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                        Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

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                          Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

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                          @7moses7 said:

                          Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

                          Here's a few guys after Hoard and before Bush that didn't do too bad:

                          Tom Brady, Ty Law, Charles Woodson, Steve Hutchinson, Jon Runyan, Brandon Graham, Taylor Lewan

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                            @7moses7 said:

                            Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

                            Here's a few guys after Hoard and before Bush that didn't do too bad:

                            Tom Brady, Ty Law, Charles Woodson, Steve Hutchinson, Jon Runyan, Brandon Graham, Taylor Lewan

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                            @flugel said:

                            Here's a few guys after Hoard and before Bush that didn't do too bad:

                            Tom Brady, Ty Law, Charles Woodson, Steve Hutchinson, Jon Runyan, Brandon Graham, Taylor Lewan

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                              Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @7moses7 said:

                              Big gap between Devin Bush and Leroy Hoard  , I’d pass drafting anyone from Michigan.

                              Bush still unproven 

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                                Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

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                                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                                @7moses7 said:

                                Name the last guy from Michigan that has done anything in the NFL !!!

                                Well in just looking at the NFL HOF:

                                Schools with the most Hall of Famers

                                Notre Dame (13)
                                Southern California (12)
                                Michigan (10)
                                Ohio State (10)
                                Miami - Florida (9)
                                Alabama (8)
                                Pittsburgh (8)
                                Syracuse (8)
                                Minnesota (7)
                                Illinois (6)

                                But when you look at the who and when:.  

                                   

                                George Allen* , Dan Dierdorf , Len Ford* , Benny Friedman , Bill Hewitt , Elroy Hirsch* , Steve Hutchinson , Ty Law , Tom Mack , Ralph Wilson, Jr.

                                Compared to USC for example:  

                                   

                                Marcus Allen , Morris (Red) Badgro , Frank Gifford , Ronnie Lott , Bruce Matthews , Ron Mix , Anthony Muñoz , Junior Seau , O.J. Simpson* , Lynn Swann , Willie Wood , Ron Yary*

                                Or look at the current NFL rosters by school, no Michigan is not as big a football factory like Alabama or Ohio State.  https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2018-09-11/colleges-most-represented-2018-nfl-rosters

                                RANK FBS SCHOOL PLAYERS
                                1 Alabama 44
                                2 LSU 40
                                3 Florida 38
                                4 Miami 36
                                4 Ohio State 36.....for all 116 teams see the link
                                6 Florida State 33
                                7 Southern Cal 32
                                8 Clemson 29
                                9 Auburn 28
                                9 Georgia 28
                                11 Stanford 27
                                11 UCLA 27
                                11 Tennessee 27
                                14 Michigan 26
                                14 Notre Dame 26.....ND has dropped down there with Michigan
                                16 Iowa 25
                                17 Texas 24
                                17 Penn State 24
                                17 Texas A&M 24
                                   

                                20 Oklahoma  23

                                Or by conference: 

                                CONFERENCE PLAYERS ON NFL ROSTERS
                                SEC 335
                                Big Ten 239......wow SEC +96 more than the B1G.
                                ACC 228
                                Pac-12 210
                                Big 12 123
                                American 100
                                Mountain West 63
                                C-USA 63
                                Independent 40
                                MAC 39
                                Sun Belt 20
                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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