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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #18

    Only thing I'm not feeling is the length of the deal... 3 years is a pretty short lock up to be planning to take a LT at #10. Plus Jack will only be 26 at the start of the 2020 season. He'd be coming due for a new contract a year before negotiations would start with a 2020 rookie.

    Makes me feel like we might flip him and draft a RT like UConn's Peart on Day 2. Frees up #10 for a IDL or LB...

    Note: If you look at Conklin's PFR page in his rookie season his position is listed as "lt/RT". So he saw some time at LT. Seems likely that Lewan got dinged in game and Jack flipped sides to finish it.

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  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @the-gipper said:

    So....we should have had him  3 years ago with that 8th pick.  We get him now.  

    This is superior news.

    He is a RT, no?  So, yea, we need that LT......and I guess the draft is the place to get it.  

    Gip, what if we sign the 38 year old LT (Peters) from Philly as a stop-gap (at the right price), trade down & pick up both an LB & a developmental LT? Just a thought.

    Mike

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #19

    @canton-mike said:

    Gip, what if we sign the 38 year old LT (Peters) from Philly as a stop-gap (at the right price), trade down & pick up both an LB & a developmental LT? Just a thought.

    Mike

    Whatever works.  That's an idea.  Though this is supposed to be a LT rich draft, so we may just want to go ahead and pull the trigger on that now. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Only thing I'm not feeling is the length of the deal... 3 years is a pretty short lock up to be planning to take a LT at #10. Plus Jack will only be 26 at the start of the 2020 season. He'd be coming due for a new contract a year before negotiations would start with a 2020 rookie.

    Makes me feel like we might flip him and draft a RT like UConn's Peart on Day 2. Frees up #10 for a IDL or LB...

    Note: If you look at Conklin's PFR page in his rookie season his position is listed as "lt/RT". So he saw some time at LT. Seems likely that Lewan got dinged in game and Jack flipped sides to finish it.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #20

    @tour2ma said:

    Only thing I'm not feeling is the length of the deal... 3 years is a pretty short lock up to be planning to take a LT at #10. Plus Jack will only be 26 at the start of the 2020 season. He'd be coming due for a new contract a year before negotiations would start with a 2020 rookie.

    Makes me feel like we might flip him and draft a RT like UConn's Peart on Day 2. Frees up #10 for a IDL or LB...

    Note: If you look at Conklin's PFR page in his rookie season his position is listed as "lt/RT". So he saw some time at LT. Seems likely that Lewan got dinged in game and Jack flipped sides to finish it.

    When you say "flip him"  do you mean  flip him to the LT spot? 

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #21

    You take BPA Aside from WR, RB, QB at 10.  Top 15 in the draft the mentality should be landing Pro Bowl talent not just finding starters filling gaps.  
     

    Conklin signing allows that to happen.

    They May have determined a Tackle is the BPA but I wouldn’t pass on a great defensive talent rated higher.  These tackles just don’t excite me.  

    ive never endorsed trade downs...but I hope one of these top QBs slides in our spot and we get a team that gets aggressive and sends us a pick.

    God forbid but we may need the ammo if Baker ain’t it for a shot at a 21 QB 

  • S SdBacker80

    You take BPA Aside from WR, RB, QB at 10.  Top 15 in the draft the mentality should be landing Pro Bowl talent not just finding starters filling gaps.  
     

    Conklin signing allows that to happen.

    They May have determined a Tackle is the BPA but I wouldn’t pass on a great defensive talent rated higher.  These tackles just don’t excite me.  

    ive never endorsed trade downs...but I hope one of these top QBs slides in our spot and we get a team that gets aggressive and sends us a pick.

    God forbid but we may need the ammo if Baker ain’t it for a shot at a 21 QB 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #22

    @sdbacker80 said:

    You take BPA Aside from WR, RB, QB at 10.  Top 15 in the draft the mentality should be landing Pro Bowl talent not just finding starters filling gaps.  

    That is probably fair, given that the BPA may also "fill a gap". 
     

    Conklin signing allows that to happen.

    They May have determined a Tackle is the BPA but I wouldn’t pass on a great defensive talent rated higher.

    ive never endorsed trade downs...but I hope one of these top QBs slides in our spot and we get a team that gets aggressive and sends us a pick.

    How far would you be willing to drop....and who would you drop to pick up?

    God forbid but we may need the ammo if Baker ain’t it for a shot at a 21 QB 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @sdbacker80 said:

    You take BPA Aside from WR, RB, QB at 10.  Top 15 in the draft the mentality should be landing Pro Bowl talent not just finding starters filling gaps.  

    That is probably fair, given that the BPA may also "fill a gap". 
     

    Conklin signing allows that to happen.

    They May have determined a Tackle is the BPA but I wouldn’t pass on a great defensive talent rated higher.

    ive never endorsed trade downs...but I hope one of these top QBs slides in our spot and we get a team that gets aggressive and sends us a pick.

    How far would you be willing to drop....and who would you drop to pick up?

    God forbid but we may need the ammo if Baker ain’t it for a shot at a 21 QB 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #23

    @the-gipper said:

    Picks 12 to 16 all need QBs it will get interesting to see one may try to jump another to land “their guy”. Thinking Love or maybe Herbert.

    i think some of these tackles consistently mentioned in the top 12 will slide too.  
     

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #24

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #25

    @texasag1969 said:

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

    Damn... wish I'd thought of that...

    Oh, wait... 😉

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  • AxeA Axe wrote on
    #26

    THIS, is a good move.. Options, are a good thing 😉

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #27

    @texasag1969 said:

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

    He may have the ability, but I do not think that is the prime option for him.    No Optimus Prime he. 

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  • OrionO Orion

    I'd guess they want him for RT....but he's a lot money.   We'll have to hear from the Browns.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #28

    @orion said:

    I'd guess they want him for RT....but he's a lot money.   We'll have to hear from the Browns.

    I like it. Big move, yea. Conk will be a great Browns' RT. TE dearth taken care of. QB depth. Go LT at 10?

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  • htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on
    #29

    Conklin makes sense if this is a run "heavy" team.  Judging by last years numbers we will likely be just that.

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  • AxeA Axe

    THIS, is a good move.. Options, are a good thing 😉

    I Icecube wrote on
    #30

    @axe said:

    THIS, is a good move.. Options, are a good thing 😉

    Take the best LT available in the draft, OL fixed. Oh and add an OG as well. 

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  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #31

    I still think we ended up trading for Trent ........ 

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  • I Icecube

    @axe said:

    THIS, is a good move.. Options, are a good thing 😉

    Take the best LT available in the draft, OL fixed. Oh and add an OG as well. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #32

    @icecube said:

    Take the best LT available, OL fixed. Oh and add an OG as well. 

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  • darren15D darren15

    I still think we ended up trading for Trent ........ 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #33

    @darren15 said:

    I still think we ended up trading for Trent ........ 

    I see no point.  Why trade and take on further money when you can draft a promising rookie on the cheap with an eye towards long term?

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT so maybe we are going for defensive help early on.

    OrionO Orion wrote on
    #34

    @texasag1969 said:

    I was thinking Conklin has the ability to plat LT

    Nice that he can be moved over there relatively seamlessly if needed.... 

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  • B Bigalow80 wrote on
    #35

    The Browns at least now have options. They can go a number of different ways when it comes to trading or drafting. I think the browns have their eyes on 2 specific players in this draft that they think they can get at 10 if everything falls in their favor: One of the LT prospects (I don't know who) or Isaiah Simmons. I think if the draft goes a certain direction all options could be on the table. If the chargers get Brady, they aren't taking a qb. The cardinals probably aren't taking a WR in the top 10 anymore and the Colts are no longer a threat to trade up for a qb. This could mean the Brown could be in a position to trade down with a team like TB, NE, JAX or MIA. Options is the name of the game and they have those now. They could also trade with WASH for Williams and try to draft and develop a guy later in the draft. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #36

    Brian Bulaga,  still available as FA.....is he a guy we could consider at LT   (or is he basically  RT?)

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Brian Bulaga,  still available as FA.....is he a guy we could consider at LT   (or is he basically  RT?)

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #37

    @the-gipper said:

    Brian Bulaga,  still available as FA.....is he a guy we could consider at LT   (or is he basically  RT?)

    Whale of a player they say. ?

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