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  • Orlando Pace

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @browns149 said:

    Orlando Pace

    Check

  • I was thinking about one of the old OL guys like Dave Rimington but I'm not sure which ones were picked #1...... except for the road grader Pace.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @mjp28 said:

    I was thinking about one of the old OL guys like Dave Rimington but I'm not sure which ones were picked #1...... except for the road grader Pace.

    Well, Rimington was neither  #1 overall nor HOF.   

    But there is one other OL who fits the bill.  Think late 60s.    Plus the 2 DL   ( 1=70s/1=90s)

    And hints on the 3 "old timers" :   2 played halfback, and one played both ways at OC and LB.    (that should give it away)

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #26

    There have been  15 players who were the #1  overall pick in either the NFL or AFL draft, who went on to be named to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.  Note: to help:  2 of the 15 taken in the AFL draft. 

    Name as many of these 15 players as you can.

    Answers:

    Bill Dudley

    Charley Trippi

    Chuck Bednarik

    Paul Hornung

    Ron Yary

    OJ Simpson

    Terry Bradshaw

    LeeRoy Selmon

    Earl Campbell

    John Elway

    Bruce Smith

    Troy Aikman

    Orlando Pace

    Buck Buchanan...from AFL draft

    Joe Namath...from AFL draft

    Others that will/could make it someday:

    Manning Brothers, Peyton and Eli

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #27

    Only the Following people have completed the "Trifecta":     Won the Heisman Trophy,   became  #1 pick in the draft.  Selected to Pro Football Hall of Fame:

    Paul Hornung,  OJ Simpson,  Earl Campbell.                     Very exclusive company

    The following could...in theory join those 3, if they were to ever get in:

    Bo Jackson  ...didn't play long enough due to injury

    Vinny Testaverde????  Has numbers, but just not good enough.

    Carson Palmer.....very borderline at best

    Sam Bradford....not even sure he has a job in the league now.

    Cam Newton.....Best Bet  now if he can overcome injuries 

    Jameis Winston.    Meh

    Baker Mayfield....hope fully

    Kyler Murray.....way ahead of ourselves.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #28

    Today's Trivia Question:

    In 100 years of the NFL,  by my count, I come up with  12-13  "Dynasties"  in the history of the game.    For purposes of this question I am going to define a Dynasty as any team that won  3 Championships in the course of any 10 year period.  

    Name as many of these Dynasties as you can.   Just give the team and the approximate era.   Example:    Cleveland Browns  2020s.  (we wish)

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #29

    The following could...in theory join those 3, if they were to ever get in:

    Bo Jackson  ...didn't play long enough due to injury.....  Shows how much injuries matter.  Best ever athlete ???

    Vinny Testaverde????  Has numbers, but just not good enough..... 21 years in a tougher era, 48,000+ yards but on some bad teams. So-so W/L record looks bad. His kid Vincent just signed up with TB.

    Carson Palmer.....very borderline at best

    Sam Bradford....not even sure he has a job in the league now........big numbers, bad teams.

    Cam Newton.....Best Bet  now if he can overcome injuries .......Yeah injuries again.

    Jameis Winston.    Meh

    Baker Mayfield....hope fully...... A lock.  😆

    Kyler Murray.....way ahead of ourselves.

  • Orlando Pace

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #30

    @browns149 said:

    Orlando Pace

    I remember this past season watching Pace highlights from his Ohio State days...... unbelievable. No wonder he was the #1 pick.

  • The following could...in theory join those 3, if they were to ever get in:

    Bo Jackson  ...didn't play long enough due to injury.....  Shows how much injuries matter.  Best ever athlete ???

    Vinny Testaverde????  Has numbers, but just not good enough..... 21 years in a tougher era, 48,000+ yards but on some bad teams. So-so W/L record looks bad. His kid Vincent just signed up with TB.

    Carson Palmer.....very borderline at best

    Sam Bradford....not even sure he has a job in the league now........big numbers, bad teams.

    Cam Newton.....Best Bet  now if he can overcome injuries .......Yeah injuries again.

    Jameis Winston.    Meh

    Baker Mayfield....hope fully...... A lock.  😆

    Kyler Murray.....way ahead of ourselves.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    The following could...in theory join those 3, if they were to ever get in:

    Bo Jackson  ...didn't play long enough due to injury.....  Shows how much injuries matter.  Best ever athlete ???

    Vinny Testaverde????  Has numbers, but just not good enough..... 21 years in a tougher era, 48,000+ yards but on some bad teams. So-so W/L record looks bad. His kid Vincent just signed up with TB.

    Carson Palmer.....very borderline at best

    Sam Bradford....not even sure he has a job in the league now........big numbers, bad teams.

    Cam Newton.....Best Bet  now if he can overcome injuries .......Yeah injuries again.

    Jameis Winston.    Meh

    Baker Mayfield....hope fully...... A lock.  😆

    Kyler Murray.....way ahead of ourselves.

    In the cases of Vinny and Bradford......I do believe that each of them contributed significantly to the fact that the teams they were on were bad.   You seem to over look that. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    The following could...in theory join those 3, if they were to ever get in:

    Bo Jackson  ...didn't play long enough due to injury.....  Shows how much injuries matter.  Best ever athlete ???

    Vinny Testaverde????  Has numbers, but just not good enough..... 21 years in a tougher era, 48,000+ yards but on some bad teams. So-so W/L record looks bad. His kid Vincent just signed up with TB.

    Carson Palmer.....very borderline at best

    Sam Bradford....not even sure he has a job in the league now........big numbers, bad teams.

    Cam Newton.....Best Bet  now if he can overcome injuries .......Yeah injuries again.

    Jameis Winston.    Meh

    Baker Mayfield....hope fully...... A lock.  😆

    Kyler Murray.....way ahead of ourselves.

    In the cases of Vinny and Bradford......I do believe that each of them contributed significantly to the fact that the teams they were on were bad.   You seem to over look that. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #32

    @the-gipper said:

    In the cases of Vinny and Bradford......I do believe that each of them contributed significantly to the fact that the teams they were on were bad.   You seem to over look that. 

    True.  And the HOF should be only for the best players of all time not everybody that wants in regardless of teams or records.  The Archie Mannings should get in the other two mentioned probably not.

    Although the MLB HOF goes to the extreme in their sport the NFL is pretty good.

  • dustyD dusty wrote on last edited by
    #33

    Only important one is the Browns - 40's and 50's.

    Patriots 2010's

    Steelers late 70's?

    Cowboys early 70's?

    Packers 60's

  • Only important one is the Browns - 40's and 50's.

    Patriots 2010's

    Steelers late 70's?

    Cowboys early 70's?

    Packers 60's

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @dusty said:

    Only important one is the Browns - 40's and 50's.

    Patriots 2010's

    Steelers late 70's?

    Cowboys early 70's?

    Packers 60's

    Highlighted in Green are correct.    The 70s Cowboys is NOT correct, according to the criteria set out above.  (they only won 2 in 10 years, though they did appear in 2 more title games. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #35

    Good idea to merge all the completed daily trivia threads. 

  • ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
    #36

    Browns late 40's and early 50's

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
    #37

    Packers, 30s

    Bears 40s

    Lions, 50s

    Raiders, late 70s/early 80s

    49ers, 80s

  • Browns late 40's and early 50's

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @atom said:

    Browns late 40's and early 50's

    Check

  • Packers, 30s

    Bears 40s

    Lions, 50s

    Raiders, late 70s/early 80s

    49ers, 80s

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #39

    @dutch-oven said:

    Packers, 30s

    Bears 40s

    Lions, 50s

    Raiders, late 70s/early 80s

    49ers, 80s

    Check on all these  (Packers 29-31)

    There are still 4 others that fit the criteria not yet named. 

    Hint:  3 of the 4 are actually more recent.  (post 1980)

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
    #40

    Patriots, 2000s (an argument can easily be made that they've had two separate dynasties, since there was such a long gap between the 3 Super Bowls they won in the 2000s and the 3 they won in the 2010s)

    Cowboys, 90s

    Redskins, 80s/90s (Joe Gibbs era)

  • Patriots, 2000s (an argument can easily be made that they've had two separate dynasties, since there was such a long gap between the 3 Super Bowls they won in the 2000s and the 3 they won in the 2010s)

    Cowboys, 90s

    Redskins, 80s/90s (Joe Gibbs era)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #41

    @dutch-oven said:

    Patriots, 2000s (an argument can easily be made that they've had two separate dynasties, since there was such a long gap between the 3 Super Bowls they won in the 2000s and the 3 they won in the 2010s)

    Cowboys, 90s

    Redskins, 80s/90s (Joe Gibbs era)

    Bada Boom Bada Bing.  Check on Cowboys and Redskins......and exactamundo on the Patriots.....that is why I said  12..or 13.  Because based on the criteria I set forth, they would be a separate dynasty. 

    Dutch gets the Bada Bing reward:

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #42

    Today's Trivia Question:

    In 100 years of the NFL,  by my count, I come up with  12-13  "Dynasties"  in the history of the game.    For purposes of this question I am going to define a Dynasty as any team that won  3 Championships in the course of any 10 year period.  

    Name as many of these Dynasties as you can.   Just give the team and the approximate era.   Example:    Cleveland Browns  2020s.  (we wish)

    Answers:

    1. Canton/Cleveland Bulldogs.  Won 3 consecutive titles in the 20s.  NFL considers these separate franchises technically,  but, they had the same name, the same coach, many of the same players.  Apparently they just had a different owner. And we know how fungible NFL owners are

    2. Packers  Won 3 consecutive titles:  1929-1931

    3. Bears  1940-1946.   Won 4 titles in 7 years

    4. Browns  1946-1957.   Won 7 titles in  11 years, played like 10 straight.

    5. Lions 1952-1957   Won 3 titles in  6 years

    6. Packers  1961-1967.  Won 5 titles in 7 years  (fyi, only Bears and Browns broke it up)

    7. Steelers  1970s   Won 4 titles in 6 years

    8. 49ers   Won 4 titles between 1981 and 1989

    9. Redskins.  Won 3 titles between 1982 and 1991.  People don't think about them much, because they were winning titles in and amongst the ones the Niners were winning, and they did it with 3 different QBs.    Joe Gibbs being the main factor

    10. Raiders.   1976-1983.  Won 3 titles in 8 years.

    11. Cowboys.   1992-1995.   Won 3 titles in 4 years.

    12. Patriots  2000s   won 3 titles in 4 years. 2001-2004

    13. Patriots?  2010s  won 3 titles in 5 years.   2014-2018.    After having gone almost 10 years without winning.   Of course, obviously the Pats can be considered one continuous dynasty.....as, in those 9-10 years of not winning a title, they did play in and lose 2 Super Bowls...to the Giants, and they did have the same coach/QB. 

    I set the  3 titles in 10 years for a dynasty...somewhat arbitrarily.  It could be argued that perhaps other teams could be considered "dynasties"  like maybe the 70s Dolphins who were in 3 consecutive SBs, and won 2.   And, can a team that loses be considered a dynasty?   90s Bills.   Or, how about the New York Giants from 1956 to 1963.  In 8 years, they won 1 title game.....and lost  5.  

    Thanks....OK to merge. 

  • Today's Trivia Question:

    In 100 years of the NFL,  by my count, I come up with  12-13  "Dynasties"  in the history of the game.    For purposes of this question I am going to define a Dynasty as any team that won  3 Championships in the course of any 10 year period.  

    Name as many of these Dynasties as you can.   Just give the team and the approximate era.   Example:    Cleveland Browns  2020s.  (we wish)

    Answers:

    1. Canton/Cleveland Bulldogs.  Won 3 consecutive titles in the 20s.  NFL considers these separate franchises technically,  but, they had the same name, the same coach, many of the same players.  Apparently they just had a different owner. And we know how fungible NFL owners are

    2. Packers  Won 3 consecutive titles:  1929-1931

    3. Bears  1940-1946.   Won 4 titles in 7 years

    4. Browns  1946-1957.   Won 7 titles in  11 years, played like 10 straight.

    5. Lions 1952-1957   Won 3 titles in  6 years

    6. Packers  1961-1967.  Won 5 titles in 7 years  (fyi, only Bears and Browns broke it up)

    7. Steelers  1970s   Won 4 titles in 6 years

    8. 49ers   Won 4 titles between 1981 and 1989

    9. Redskins.  Won 3 titles between 1982 and 1991.  People don't think about them much, because they were winning titles in and amongst the ones the Niners were winning, and they did it with 3 different QBs.    Joe Gibbs being the main factor

    10. Raiders.   1976-1983.  Won 3 titles in 8 years.

    11. Cowboys.   1992-1995.   Won 3 titles in 4 years.

    12. Patriots  2000s   won 3 titles in 4 years. 2001-2004

    13. Patriots?  2010s  won 3 titles in 5 years.   2014-2018.    After having gone almost 10 years without winning.   Of course, obviously the Pats can be considered one continuous dynasty.....as, in those 9-10 years of not winning a title, they did play in and lose 2 Super Bowls...to the Giants, and they did have the same coach/QB. 

    I set the  3 titles in 10 years for a dynasty...somewhat arbitrarily.  It could be argued that perhaps other teams could be considered "dynasties"  like maybe the 70s Dolphins who were in 3 consecutive SBs, and won 2.   And, can a team that loses be considered a dynasty?   90s Bills.   Or, how about the New York Giants from 1956 to 1963.  In 8 years, they won 1 title game.....and lost  5.  

    Thanks....OK to merge. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #43

    @the-gipper said:

    Today's Trivia Question:

    In 100 years of the NFL,  by my count, I come up with  12-13  "Dynasties"  in the history of the game.    For purposes of this question I am going to define a Dynasty as any team that won  3 Championships in the course of any 10 year period.  

    Name as many of these Dynasties as you can.   Just give the team and the approximate era.   Example:    Cleveland Browns  2020s.  (we wish)

    Answers:

    I set the  3 titles in 10 years for a dynasty...somewhat arbitrarily.  It could be argued that perhaps other teams could be considered "dynasties"  like maybe the 70s Dolphins who were in 3 consecutive SBs, and won 2.   And, can a team that loses be considered a dynasty?   90s Bills.   Or, how about the New York Giants from 1956 to 1963.  In 8 years, they won 1 title game.....and lost  5.  

    Thanks....OK to merge. 

    After NE that's going to be harder to do going forward from here and that's in all major sports.  I also think about the close ones and the "lovable losers" like the old Bills and Vikings, the great defenses among others in my personal favorite era of NFL football the Sabol era of the1960s to 1980s. The GB, OAK, DAL, WAS, LA, MIA, PIT, LA RAMS, CHI, SF and CLE and the soundtracks to go along with them.

    Great memories of the frozen tundra and the cold winds blowing off the lake.    😉