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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #683

    ED SPRINKLE CHICAGO BEARS

     

    Ed Sprinkle signed with the Chicago Bears as a free agent out of Navy in 1944. A fierce competitor, Sprinkle was once described by legendary Hall of Famer George Halas as "the greatest pass rusher I've ever seen." Strong, hard-hitting and one of most feared players of his era, most notably at defensive end, Sprinkle was labeled “The Meanest Man in Football” by Collier’s Weekly.

    The 6-1, 206-pound Sprinkle, originally played both offense and defensive end for the Bears. He caught 32 passes for 451 yards and seven touchdowns during his career. He helped lead Chicago to an NFL Western Division title in 1946 with an 8-2-1 record. The Bears would go on to defeat the New York Giants 24-14 in NFL Championship Game. However, his ability to rush and tackle the opponents' passers soon made him a defensive specialist.

    During his 12 seasons with the Bears, NFL teams were switching to the T-formation, and a strong pass rush was essential to defend against the improved air attacks. Sprinkle was determined, extremely quick off the snap and, as a left- handed right end, he could handle most blockers with his stronger arm. Sprinkle is widely regarded as one of first players to gain fame by rushing the passer.

    In total, Sprinkle intercepted four passes for 55 yards, one safety and recovered two fumbles for TDs during his career. He was named First-Team All-Pro in 1949, First Team All-NFL in 1950 and Second-Team All-NFL four times (1949, 1951, 1952 and 1954). Sprinkle was also voted to four Pro Bowls (1951-53, 1955) and is a member of the NFL’s All-Decade Team of 1940s.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gorka said:

    Since 1936 then I'll say Notre Dame,  Army, Yale

    Only ND.    You do, however bring up some interesting history.  Army/Navy...even as far back as 1936 would never have a guy taken #1 overall....because of their 5 year military commitment.   Even if there was a guy that maybe could be considered worthy of being #1...No team would every go there.  e.g.  Roger Staubach,  Heisman Winner....based on his ultimate Pro career he may could be considered #1 material   Drafted in round 10   (great stroke of either luck or genius by the Cowboys)    Others like Blanchard/Davis/Bertelli etc.  not taken high because of military. (and did not really have great pro careers.   There are only 2 PFHOFers  from the service academies:    Staubach, and Ed Sprinkle  (just recently named).   Sprinkle a DE for the Bears who did his service in the Navy during WWII.  When war was over, he played ball.    

    Nowadays no one with the talent to be a top notch  NFL draft pick is likely to go to the service academy.   However  In the NBA, there WAS the situation of David Robinson....  who was picked #1 overall.    He was allowed to do his military service by playing basketball...wherein I believe his military duty was to serve as an "Ambassador" of the service by playing ball. 

    And Yale's days were long over even before the 30s. 

    Still 11 more schools

    GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #684

    @the-gipper said:

    Only ND.    You do, however bring up some interesting history.  Army/Navy...even as far back as 1936 would never have a guy taken #1 overall....because of their 5 year military commitment.   Even if there was a guy that maybe could be considered worthy of being #1...No team would every go there.  e.g.  Roger Staubach,  Heisman Winner....based on his ultimate Pro career he may could be considered #1 material   Drafted in round 10   (great stroke of either luck or genius by the Cowboys)    Others like Blanchard/Davis/Bertelli etc.  not taken high because of military. (and did not really have great pro careers.   There are only 2 PFHOFers  from the service academies:    Staubach, and Ed Sprinkle  (just recently named).   Sprinkle a DE for the Bears who did his service in the Navy during WWII.  When war was over, he played ball.    

    Nowadays no one with the talent to be a top notch  NFL draft pick is likely to go to the service academy.   However  In the NBA, there WAS the situation of David Robinson....  who was picked #1 overall.    He was allowed to do his military service by playing basketball...wherein I believe his military duty was to serve as an "Ambassador" of the service by playing ball. 

    And Yale's days were long over even before the 30s. 

    Still 11 more schools

    Looked up both and you're certainly right about Yale, but are you sure about Army?

    Looks like 2 in the first round in 1947.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=A&collegeName=Army&abbrFlag=0&type=school

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #685

    Nebraska

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • GorkaG Gorka

    @the-gipper said:

    Only ND.    You do, however bring up some interesting history.  Army/Navy...even as far back as 1936 would never have a guy taken #1 overall....because of their 5 year military commitment.   Even if there was a guy that maybe could be considered worthy of being #1...No team would every go there.  e.g.  Roger Staubach,  Heisman Winner....based on his ultimate Pro career he may could be considered #1 material   Drafted in round 10   (great stroke of either luck or genius by the Cowboys)    Others like Blanchard/Davis/Bertelli etc.  not taken high because of military. (and did not really have great pro careers.   There are only 2 PFHOFers  from the service academies:    Staubach, and Ed Sprinkle  (just recently named).   Sprinkle a DE for the Bears who did his service in the Navy during WWII.  When war was over, he played ball.    

    Nowadays no one with the talent to be a top notch  NFL draft pick is likely to go to the service academy.   However  In the NBA, there WAS the situation of David Robinson....  who was picked #1 overall.    He was allowed to do his military service by playing basketball...wherein I believe his military duty was to serve as an "Ambassador" of the service by playing ball. 

    And Yale's days were long over even before the 30s. 

    Still 11 more schools

    Looked up both and you're certainly right about Yale, but are you sure about Army?

    Looks like 2 in the first round in 1947.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=A&collegeName=Army&abbrFlag=0&type=school

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #686

    @gorka said:

    Looked up both and you're certainly right about Yale, but are you sure about Army?

    Looks like 2 in the first round in 1947.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=A&collegeName=Army&abbrFlag=0&type=school

    Again, a generalized statement.   That was just post war when being from the West Point academy still had some run.  So, if you have to go back to 1947 as the outlier....that lies pretty far out. 

  • GorkaG Gorka

    Nebraska

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #687

    @gorka said:

    Nebraska

    Check

  • GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #688

    Florida, Florida St.

    Gots to be one a doze.

  • GorkaG Gorka

    Florida, Florida St.

    Gots to be one a doze.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #689

    @gorka said:

    Florida, Florida St.

    Gots to be one a doze.

    Nope, neither of them.  Winston FSU only #1.  Not sure Fla. has ever had one.   But they certainly have not had 2. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gorka said:

    Florida, Florida St.

    Gots to be one a doze.

    Nope, neither of them.  Winston FSU only #1.  Not sure Fla. has ever had one.   But they certainly have not had 2. 

    GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #690

    @the-gipper said:

    Nope, neither of them.  Winston FSU only #1.  Not sure Fla. has ever had one.   But they certainly have not had 2. 

    Wow. Florida has had a ton of good players come out of that school.

  • GorkaG Gorka

    @the-gipper said:

    Nope, neither of them.  Winston FSU only #1.  Not sure Fla. has ever had one.   But they certainly have not had 2. 

    Wow. Florida has had a ton of good players come out of that school.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #691

    @gorka said:

    Wow. Florida has had a ton of good players come out of that school.

    But NO  #1 overall picks.

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  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #692

    Kentucky

    UCLA

    Washington

    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gorka said:

    Wow. Florida has had a ton of good players come out of that school.

    But NO  #1 overall picks.

    GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #693

    @the-gipper said:

    But NO  #1 overall picks.

    I know, that's what I'm saying!

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    Kentucky

    UCLA

    Washington

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #694

    @richiswhere said:

    Kentucky

    UCLA

    Washington

    NONE of those.

  • GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #695

    Michigan, Clemson, LSU

  • GorkaG Gorka

    Michigan, Clemson, LSU

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #696

    @gorka said:

    Michigan, Clemson, LSU

    Check on Michigan/LSU. No on Clemson

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #697

    Nineteen (19)   schools have had  2 or more   #1 overall picks come from that school since the draft began in 1936.  This includes the few years of the AFL draft.

    Name as many of these schools as you can. 

    Answers:

    USC...5

    Oklahoma .....5

    Notre Dame.....5

    Auburn....5   (including 1 in the AFL draft)

    Stanford...4

    Georgia....4

    Ohio State....3

    Alabama,  California, Illinois, LSU, Miami Fla.; Michigan, Penn St. NC St. (including 1 in AFL), Tennessee, Texas, Virginia Tech....all 2 each.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #698

    Here is a draft related  Trivia Question:

    In the history of the NFL draft  there have been to date  84 Overall #1 picks made.    

    The question:   Break down these 84 picks have been distributed between each of the following positions,  which have had at least one player selected there:

    RB/HB/FB:

    QB:  

    OC: 

    OT: 

    LB:

    DE:

    DT:

    DB: 

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #699

    RB/HB/FB: 12

    QB:  32

    OC: 1

    OT: 5

    LB:9

    DE: 12

    DT: 7

    DB: 6

    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    RB/HB/FB: 12

    QB:  32

    OC: 1

    OT: 5

    LB:9

    DE: 12

    DT: 7

    DB: 6

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #700

    @richiswhere said:

    RB/HB/FB: 12  Far off here.

    QB:  32....Almost spot on

    OC: 1...right on

    OT: 5....Close 

    LB:9......No

    DE: 12.....Spot on

    DT: 7  not too close

    DB: 6....NO, not really.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #701

    The question:   Break down these 84 picks have been distributed between each of the following positions,  which have had at least one player selected there:

    Answers  (not giving all the names)

    RB/HB/FB:    22 of them

    QB:  ....33  of them   

    OC: ...1.....Ki Aldrich from the 30s   (could count Bednarik as well)

    OT: ...4

    LB:...4....counted Bednarik here.....with the likes of Tommy Nobis, Aundray Bruce; Cousineau

    DE:.....12

    DT:...2    ...Dan Wilkinson and  Russsell Maryland

    DB:   1     (Steeler pick in the 60s

    At one point in history the RBs dominated the  #1 picks....but then in the mid 90s I think, the QBs overtook, and have dominated ever since.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #702

    Just for Shits and Giggles, here is the breakdown by position for the #1 overall pick in each Decade:

    1930s:    3 RBs    1 OC !!

    1940s:  6 RBs, 3 QBs,  1 OC/LB (Bednarik)

    1950s: 2 RBs, 5 QBs, 2 WRs,  1 DB& 

    1960s: 5 RBs,  1 QB*,  1 WR, 1DE, 1 OT, 1 LB

    1970s: 2 RBs,  3 QBs, 4 DEs, 1 LB  

    1980s: 3 RBs, 3 QBs, 2 DEs, 1 WR, 1 LB ^

    1990s: 1 RB#,  4 QBs, 2 DTs % 1 DE, 1 WR@, 1 OT

    2000s: -0- RBs,  7 QBs, 2 DEs, 1 OT

    2010s:  -0- RBs, 7 QBs, 2 DEs, 1 OT

    *  A lot of good QBs came out in the 60s...but the major bust Terry Baker was the only one taken with #1 overall

    # Kijana Carter in 1995 is the last RB taken #1 overall. Since he was a bust, maybe that was an omen

    @ Keyshawn Johnson is the last WR taken #1 overall 

    .....note, Carter and Johnson taken in back to back years. 

    %  Russell Maryland and  Dan Wilkinson are the only DTs taken overall #1...ever. 

    ^  Andray Bruce is the last  designated LB to be taken #1 overall   (though...today he may be considered and "edge" up there with the likes of Myles Garrett/Jadaveon Clowney etc. 

    &  Gary Glick is the only DB ever to be taken #1 overall by the Steelers. 

    !!  Ki Aldrich is the only strictly OC ever taken at #1....though Bednarik also played OC. 

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