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  • @atom said:

    we have 5 other picks,udfa's,f.a,and cuts I believe we could find some help there

    And we can’t add a guard using the five other picks, Udfa or cuts what makes guard so special when we are paying two interior lineman big $$$ and we just traded for another who played reasonably well.

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    And we can’t add a guard using the five other picks, Udfa or cuts what makes guard so special when we are paying two interior lineman big $$$ and we just traded for another who played reasonably well.

    Should have never got rid of Zeitler. Who's genius decision was that? 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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    This OT class has the numbers... just not the polish... but then college programs don't polish OL play anymore. 2020 is about as loaded as an OT class gets these days.

    While there's no refined, "elite" prospect near the level Joe was when we drafted him, there are a bunch of really good prospects making 2020 the strongest OT class since probably '06. That class made up for a light 1st round with a strong Day 2 and even a couple surprises on Day 3.

  • @atom said:

    we have 5 other picks,udfa's,f.a,and cuts I believe we could find some help there

    And we can’t add a guard using the five other picks, Udfa or cuts what makes guard so special when we are paying two interior lineman big $$$ and we just traded for another who played reasonably well.

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    And we can’t add a guard using the five other picks, Udfa or cuts what makes guard so special when we are paying two interior lineman big $$$ and we just traded for another who played reasonably well.

    insurance what if pick ten sucks

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    And we can’t add a guard using the five other picks, Udfa or cuts what makes guard so special when we are paying two interior lineman big $$$ and we just traded for another who played reasonably well.

    insurance what if pick ten sucks

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    @atom said:

    insurance what if pick ten sucks

    So just draft 7 lineman 

  • @atom said:

    insurance what if pick ten sucks

    So just draft 7 lineman 

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    So just draft 7 lineman 

    sure why not you could always trade away some later

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    “Loaded” I would say good depth for sure.

    Wirfs is being doubted at tackle.  Wills played RT granted he protected a left handed QB but he’d change sides here anyway, Thomas okay, Jones is a good prospect, Becton I don’t see it.  You have some intriguing guys down the line that I would say this is class loaded with depth.

    But i don’t see a Joe Thomas or even Joe Thomas lite. Granted we may never see that again but we have a top 10 pick and supposedly there will be tackles off the board when we come to 10.

    maybe we see a Dbrickashaw/Jake Long emerge 3/4 time probowler out of this group.  I think it’s more likely we see a 2/3/4 round tackle  play well enough to be a multi year probowler.  

    Wirfs, Wills, Becton, Thomas, Josh Jones and Ezra Cleveland are all likely to go in the 1st round, 4 of them in top 10. Do you recall another draft this stacked with LTs? I don't. Not even close. Cleveland is in position to grab a Thomas, who is real good. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @icecube said:

    Wirfs, Wills, Becton, Thomas, Josh Jones and Ezra Cleveland are all likely to go in the 1st round, 4 of them in top 10. Do you recall another draft this stacked with LTs? I don't. Not even close. Cleveland is in position to grab a Thomas, who is real good. 

    I have seen no one rate Ezra as a first rounder.....not saying it isn't possible....just haven't seen him being rated that high or mocked to go that high. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Redskins OT Trent Williams: 7 reasons the Browns should trade for him

    1. They’d be getting the closest thing to Joe Thomas

    2. Browns OL coach Bill Callahan knows and likes him

    3. The trade compensation might be reasonable

    4. The leadership is invaluable

    5. He’s healthy

    6. A Williams trade could facilitate a move down from No. 10

    7. They could swing it financially

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/04/redskins-trent-williams-7-reasons-the-browns-should-trade-for-him.html

  • @icecube said:

    You're more worried about a RB when they have Chubb and Hunt, while the LT spot is the worst in the NFL? Not sure I follow. And didn't we just sign Hooper at TE and still have nJOKE-on-u? 

    i am gonna double down take a tackle at ten and then with are next pick take another linemen 

    1) you never quite know if ine will bust

    2)we still have a need at rg

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @atom said:

    i am gonna double down take a tackle at ten and then with are next pick take another linemen 

    1) you never quite know if ine will bust

    2)we still have a need at rg

    Yea, but, did you see our LB corps?  Frightening.....second only to LT as a priority. 

  • @atom said:

    i am gonna double down take a tackle at ten and then with are next pick take another linemen 

    1) you never quite know if ine will bust

    2)we still have a need at rg

    Yea, but, did you see our LB corps?  Frightening.....second only to LT as a priority. 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, but, did you see our LB corps?  Frightening.....second only to LT as a priority. 

    I plan on scoring a 100 points a game so lb will we irrelevant 

  • Redskins OT Trent Williams: 7 reasons the Browns should trade for him

    1. They’d be getting the closest thing to Joe Thomas

    2. Browns OL coach Bill Callahan knows and likes him

    3. The trade compensation might be reasonable

    4. The leadership is invaluable

    5. He’s healthy

    6. A Williams trade could facilitate a move down from No. 10

    7. They could swing it financially

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/04/redskins-trent-williams-7-reasons-the-browns-should-trade-for-him.html

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Redskins OT Trent Williams: 7 reasons the Browns should trade for him

    1. They’d be getting the closest thing to Joe Thomas

    2. Browns OL coach Bill Callahan knows and likes him

    3. The trade compensation might be reasonable

    4. The leadership is invaluable

    5. He’s healthy

    6. A Williams trade could facilitate a move down from No. 10

    7. They could swing it financially

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/04/redskins-trent-williams-7-reasons-the-browns-should-trade-for-him.html

    All sounds good.  Some say he is a malcontent....but it seems his only discontent is being stuck in DC  (though I am sure he would want more money).   

    I assume any delay is the "compensation" issue.     I don't want to give up  a first and 2d rounder......but I may give up a  3rd and a 7th. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea, but, did you see our LB corps?  Frightening.....second only to LT as a priority. 

    I plan on scoring a 100 points a game so lb will we irrelevant 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @atom said:

    I plan on scoring a 100 points a game so lb will we irrelevant 

    Well, the most any team ever scored in a single NFL game has been 73 pts.    Let's say that the Browns score  60 on average.

    Still, somebody has to tackle the opponent. 

  • @atom said:

    I plan on scoring a 100 points a game so lb will we irrelevant 

    Well, the most any team ever scored in a single NFL game has been 73 pts.    Let's say that the Browns score  60 on average.

    Still, somebody has to tackle the opponent. 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Well, the most any team ever scored in a single NFL game has been 73 pts.    Let's say that the Browns score  60 on average.

    Still, somebody has to tackle the opponent. 

    o.k o.k drafting 7 o-linemen is probably a bad idea so may your wish be granted for a top tier lb

    Baker for President 

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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    If the Browns take Trent before the draft, teams below will be panicking we will take BPA at 10 like 1 of the 3 elite WR's .....you would see Denver and the Raiders trying to jump us into 9 🙂 if we are trading for Trent and trading back with Atlanta or Denver we announce the trade back and trade for Trent together 

  • If the Browns take Trent before the draft, teams below will be panicking we will take BPA at 10 like 1 of the 3 elite WR's .....you would see Denver and the Raiders trying to jump us into 9 🙂 if we are trading for Trent and trading back with Atlanta or Denver we announce the trade back and trade for Trent together 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @darren15 said:

    If the Browns take Trent before the draft, teams below will be panicking we will take BPA at 10 like 1 of the 3 elite WR's .....you would see Denver and the Raiders trying to jump us into 9 🙂 if we are trading for Trent and trading back with Atlanta or Denver we announce the trade back and trade for Trent together 

    If we trade for Williams,   and have #10 for BPA,  I don't think we go WR.    I see the trade down to get either S McKinney, or one of the LBs:  Queen or Murray. 

  • @icecube said:

    Wirfs, Wills, Becton, Thomas, Josh Jones and Ezra Cleveland are all likely to go in the 1st round, 4 of them in top 10. Do you recall another draft this stacked with LTs? I don't. Not even close. Cleveland is in position to grab a Thomas, who is real good. 

    I have seen no one rate Ezra as a first rounder.....not saying it isn't possible....just haven't seen him being rated that high or mocked to go that high. 

    I Icecube wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I have seen no one rate Ezra as a first rounder.....not saying it isn't possible....just haven't seen him being rated that high or mocked to go that high. 

    For what it's worth, CBS has him drafted with the 26th pick overall (Fins). Of course, that doesn't mean he will go there, could drop into the 2nd round (shrugs shoulders). 

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/three-round-2020-nfl-mock-draft-chargers-pass-on-qb-jordan-love-justin-herbert-drop-to-bottom-of-1st-round/

  • This OT class has the numbers... just not the polish... but then college programs don't polish OL play anymore. 2020 is about as loaded as an OT class gets these days.

    While there's no refined, "elite" prospect near the level Joe was when we drafted him, there are a bunch of really good prospects making 2020 the strongest OT class since probably '06. That class made up for a light 1st round with a strong Day 2 and even a couple surprises on Day 3.

    I Icecube wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    This OT class has the numbers... just not the polish... but then college programs don't polish OL play anymore. 2020 is about as loaded as an OT class gets these days.

    While there's no refined, "elite" prospect near the level Joe was when we drafted him, there are a bunch of really good prospects making 2020 the strongest OT class since probably '06. That class made up for a light 1st round with a strong Day 2 and even a couple surprises on Day 3.

    I'd say when 6-7 LTs are taken in the 1st round (4 likely in the top 12) I'd say it's a strong LT draft. There might be more LTs taken in the 1st than QBs. I know some (all?) need developed, but all those 1st round guys have the physical tools to become very good. Even Bectum seems to have some nice skills. No, there probably isn't an Orlando Pace, Jon Ogden or Joe Thomas in the group, but those are Hall of Famers. I'd settle for an eventual pro bowler.

    No matter how you cut it, it's a good year for a team needing a LT that has the #10 pick. Good fortune. Not so much a great year for an ILB though. It seems most of them are pretty flawed after the first few.  

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    New Pete Smith article within the last hour, but without any new info...

    https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/report-definite-discussions-between-cleveland-browns-washington-redskins-about-trent-williams

    Seems all talk, no action, so far. 

    I hear Tampa Bay may be offering a lot for Williams. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    New Pete Smith article within the last hour, but without any new info...

    https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/report-definite-discussions-between-cleveland-browns-washington-redskins-about-trent-williams

    Seems all talk, no action, so far. 

    I hear Tampa Bay may be offering a lot for Williams. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Seems all talk, no action, so far. 

    I hear Tampa Bay may be offering a lot for Williams. 

    Good. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Seems all talk, no action, so far. 

    I hear Tampa Bay may be offering a lot for Williams. 

    Good. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Good. 

    He is not your cuppa tea?    Even for like a 3rd and 7th?