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  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #14

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

  • It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @orion said:

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    Honest, courteous people. Not everyone. Just my opinion. 

  • It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #16

    @orion said:

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    Well, here are some stats:

    1.  About 63% of all gun deaths are self inflicted suicide.

    2. Another 22%  are committed against the gun owners spouse, or by the spouse against the gun owner. (or on another family member child/parent etc.)

    3. About 1-2% are prisoner on prisoner murders  (though that makes up about 5% of all murders, more often than not a gun is not involved)

    4.  That leaves like only 13 or 14%.     And probably  like 10%  are gang/drug related murders.  (where the victim is not law enforcement

    So, that leaves like 3-4%  which are "stranger" related homicides, not gang or drug related. 

    About  1 % of that are police officers killed in the line of duty.

    Another 1% if that are the multiple murderer scenarios:  mass killings/serial killers. 

    Maybe another one percent are "felony homicides"....i.e. where someone is killed in the course of another crime  (like robbing then killing them)

    So, it is only like that 1%....or another one percent of killings in stranger to stranger homicides that those guys with the guns are supposedly thinking they are protecting themselves from. 

    And the above just deals with  what are considered purposeful gun deaths.  Statistically,  those guys are more likely to shoot themselves by accident than they are to be shot at by some strangers. 

  • Here's the amazing or maybe not so amazing part a 21 year old young stud gets a $12.2M signing bonus with a guaranteed $19.6M contract........what could go wrong there ?

    Oh well.......

    Current Contract

    Ed Oliver signed a 4 year, $19,565,156 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $12,249,204 signing bonus, $19,565,156 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,891,289. In 2020, Oliver will earn a base salary of $1,389,325, while carrying a cap hit of $4,451,626 and a dead cap value of $16,007,855.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @mjp28 said:

    Here's the amazing or maybe not so amazing part a 21 year old young stud gets a $12.2M signing bonus with a guaranteed $19.6M contract........what could go wrong there ?

    Oh well.......

    Current Contract

    Ed Oliver signed a 4 year, $19,565,156 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $12,249,204 signing bonus, $19,565,156 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,891,289. In 2020, Oliver will earn a base salary of $1,389,325, while carrying a cap hit of $4,451,626 and a dead cap value of $16,007,855.

    Meaning he can afford a real good DUI lawyer....  😉 

  • It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
    #18

    @orion said:

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    A good portion of this country are out-of-the-closet ammosexuals. 

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #19

    I want a bazooka!

  • @orion said:

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people think that the country is a safer place if everyone walks around with a gun.

    Well, here are some stats:

    1.  About 63% of all gun deaths are self inflicted suicide.

    2. Another 22%  are committed against the gun owners spouse, or by the spouse against the gun owner. (or on another family member child/parent etc.)

    3. About 1-2% are prisoner on prisoner murders  (though that makes up about 5% of all murders, more often than not a gun is not involved)

    4.  That leaves like only 13 or 14%.     And probably  like 10%  are gang/drug related murders.  (where the victim is not law enforcement

    So, that leaves like 3-4%  which are "stranger" related homicides, not gang or drug related. 

    About  1 % of that are police officers killed in the line of duty.

    Another 1% if that are the multiple murderer scenarios:  mass killings/serial killers. 

    Maybe another one percent are "felony homicides"....i.e. where someone is killed in the course of another crime  (like robbing then killing them)

    So, it is only like that 1%....or another one percent of killings in stranger to stranger homicides that those guys with the guns are supposedly thinking they are protecting themselves from. 

    And the above just deals with  what are considered purposeful gun deaths.  Statistically,  those guys are more likely to shoot themselves by accident than they are to be shot at by some strangers. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, here are some stats:

    1.  About 63% of all gun deaths are self inflicted suicide.

    2. Another 22%  are committed against the gun owners spouse, or by the spouse against the gun owner. (or on another family member child/parent etc.)

    And the above just deals with  what are considered purposeful gun deaths.  Statistically,  those guys are more likely to shoot themselves by accident than they are to be shot at by some strangers. 

    That goes sound about right.  So of all gun deaths about 85% are suicide or your honey finally caught you.   😮

    Stay tuned to the NFL police blotter for more exciting dumbass news.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, here are some stats:

    1.  About 63% of all gun deaths are self inflicted suicide.

    2. Another 22%  are committed against the gun owners spouse, or by the spouse against the gun owner. (or on another family member child/parent etc.)

    And the above just deals with  what are considered purposeful gun deaths.  Statistically,  those guys are more likely to shoot themselves by accident than they are to be shot at by some strangers. 

    That goes sound about right.  So of all gun deaths about 85% are suicide or your honey finally caught you.   😮

    Stay tuned to the NFL police blotter for more exciting dumbass news.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @mjp28 said:

    That goes sound about right.  So of all gun deaths about 85% are suicide or your honey finally caught you.   😮

    Stay tuned to the NFL police blotter for more exciting dumbass news.

    Or go to Direct TV ID Channel 285 where legitimate murders take place.?

  • @mjp28 said:

    That goes sound about right.  So of all gun deaths about 85% are suicide or your honey finally caught you.   😮

    Stay tuned to the NFL police blotter for more exciting dumbass news.

    Or go to Direct TV ID Channel 285 where legitimate murders take place.?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #22

    @texasag1969 said:

    Or go to Direct TV ID Channel 285 where legitimate murders take place.?

    What do you mean "legitimate murders" take place?     

  • htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
    #23

    Oh yay, gun arguments.  Always great on a football forum.  The only cooler topic would be abortion.

    Speaking of which, you had a far higher chance of being aborted, than you ever will of being shot.  Congratulations and give your mom a hug.

  • Oh yay, gun arguments.  Always great on a football forum.  The only cooler topic would be abortion.

    Speaking of which, you had a far higher chance of being aborted, than you ever will of being shot.  Congratulations and give your mom a hug.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @htownbrown said:

    Oh yay, gun arguments.  Always great on a football forum.  The only cooler topic would be abortion.

    Speaking of which, you had a far higher chance of being aborted, than you ever will of being shot.  Congratulations and give your mom a hug.

    Discipline at htownbrown's home: "Just remember son I brought you into this world and I can damn sure take you out!"?

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Oh boy !   Just mix religion, politics and gun talk together and stand back.

    Hours of pointless fun !

    professional-burnout-syndrome-exhausted-sick-260nw-1433996435.jpg

  • Oh boy !   Just mix religion, politics and gun talk together and stand back.

    Hours of pointless fun !

    professional-burnout-syndrome-exhausted-sick-260nw-1433996435.jpg

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh boy !   Just mix religion, politics and gun talk together and stand back.

    Hours of pointless fun !

    professional-burnout-syndrome-exhausted-sick-260nw-1433996435.jpg

    Just part of stay at home giggles.?