AUGUST 6 Browns Camp - Twitter Highlights

[RestinPeace]

Aloysius said:

I'd say DA was more accurate than Quinn today, especially during the first half of practice. Quinn was missing on throws to all three levels: multiple quick outs to Massaquoi and Royal were too high & wide. The pick Pool made was on a slant to Edwards that Quinn threw too high, and it appeared to be a bad read: Massaquoi appeared to be getting open on the other side of the field, with Elam too far away to offer any help. I also saw Massaquoi get open on another play, only for Quinn to throw a short pass at the shins of one of the TE's.

During one passing drill, Quinn threw a five yard pass to Harrison that looked like it was directed at the DB standing next to him. He underthrew a deep ball to Leggett during a one on one drill at the start of practice, then missed Massaqoui badly a deep throw during the practice-ending two minute drill. He also threw a slant behind Furrey that made him bend awkwardly and eventually lose control of the ball; after the play, Quinn went up to Furrey and apologized for the bad throw.

Early on, DA appeared more accurate and composed. Unfortunately, his play declined towards the end of practice. Losing Hadnot, which promoted Sowells to second team left guard, wreaked havoc on the line. Also, David Veikune seemed to line up at ROLB more often later in the practice, and he had no trouble getting around George Foster. As a result, DA lost his cool and did some pretty oafish stuff.

When one of his receivers lost his footing, resulting in a pick, Anderson ran down the field and kicked one of the end zone pylons. While he did it, he let out an all too audible "f*ck", which drew disapproving comments from parents who'd brought their kids to camp...and laughs from the rest of us. When pressure killed his two minute drill, DA took the ball and punted it back towards the end zone.

Overall, I wouldn't say it was a good day for either of our top two QB's. But it was a truly horrible day for Quinn: he didn't look like a guy who should be starting in this league.

Hopefully, I'll see something different tomorrow.

DA started like crap and ended like crap.

[Aloysius]

In more positive news, I was really impressed with David Veikune. He beat George Foster a couple times, but I was even more impressed with his work inside. He brings a heavy dose of physicality to the position: James Davis stayed on the ground for about ten seconds after one bone-crushing hit.

Davis wowed me as well. Unfortunately, his blitz pickup issues haven't gone away - Maiava got by him during 11 on 11's - and he fumbled the ball on one bumbled handoff. But his speed and cutting ability are pretty impressive: there were some nice OOHS and AAHS this afternoon.

I wonder how some of his moves will work against better competition. For instance, one of his big runs today came when the defense totally gave up backside contain, which shouldn't happen in a real game. But there's enough there to get excited about this guy potentially being part of our long-term solution at RB.

[Sez.EJ]

I have been reading these tweets from many teams sites.. there are a lot of INT"s being thrown all over the nation by starters and backups.. That's why they call it practice.. The first two preaseason games will decide this.. The true starter will be named and reigning in pregame # 3 and beyond...

[Aloysius]

@dan-in-florida said:

DawgScooper

Robiskie burns Ivy for a long TD bomb. Steptoe beats his man on a slant.

Robiskie schooled the veteran with a beautiful double move. I loved seeing that.

DawgScooper

Rogers just runs straight through the high stepping drills while all the other players are side stepping and zig zagging. Real funny!

Not funny at all. Rogers didn't do the normal stuff because he's hurt. Shortly after the drills, Rogers went down on the field and had the training staff look at one of his ankles. He still dominated Mack, but he ceded a lot of first team reps to Ahtyba Rubin. He's clearly not 100%.

[alporcini]

@lumbergh said:

Quinn plays poorly and the Browns go to the super bowl?

Try again. Come up with a more realistic scenario next time.

First I got one for you:

Would you rather have the Browns 2007 season as it was, or would you rather have watched Brady Quinn play and the team go 2-14 that year?

Inspecta beat me to it... I didn't say "Quinn plays poorly" , simply that Quinn manages the games about as solidly as Eli Manning and we go to a Super Bowl.

It's a simple direct question.

What's your direct answer?

[Lumbergh]

@sez.ej said:

I have been reading these tweets from many teams sites.. there are a lot of INT"s being thrown all over the nation by starters and backups.. That's why they call it practice.. The first two preaseason games will decide this.. The true starter will be named and reigning in pregame # 3 and beyond...

Thanks, I'll add it to the Quinnie excuse pile time line:

1. QUINN WILL DOMINATE TC

2. NO BIG DEAL, IT'S ONLY THE FIRST WEEKEND

3. HE'S NEVER BEEN A GREAT PRACTICE PLAYER

4. ITS PROBABLY NOT A REAL COMPETITION, SO HE'S JUST COASTING

5. EVERYBODY THROWS LOTS OF PICKS IN TC

6. (COMING SOON) THE SCRIMMAGE AT CBS IS MEANINGLESS

7. (COMING SOON) THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME IS MEANINGLESS

[ballpeen]

Thanks Alo...over the the last year I have come to respect your take on the game, and post with a unbiased slant...at least in this forum.

[SoupDawg]

I hope DA and BQ both get hurt and Ratliff starts.

Then Lummy will go away and this board won't suck.

[cmac12]

It all is beginning to sound to me like you should just support whoever starts and the only camp people should be in is the get a new QB camp. Hell with DA and hell with BQ get a new Qb in there. Like I have posted before, it seems like most of you think DA sucks. But if he sucks so bad then why can't BQ outplay him? He did not outplay him last year in the preseason or the regular season. Might just have to accept that both QBs are backups and go get a freaking starter.

[PlaygroundLegend]

@cmac12 said:

It all is beginning to sound to me like you should just support whoever starts and the only camp people should be in is the get a new QB camp. Hell with DA and hell with BQ get a new Qb in there. Like I have posted before, it seems like most of you think DA sucks. But if he sucks so bad then why can't BQ outplay him? He did not outplay him last year in the preseason or the regular season. Might just have to accept that both QBs are backups and go get a freaking starter.

Huh?

Quin was decisive and unfazed by pressure and out up great numbers in his only healthy game.

[TheJokersWILD]

@lumbergh said:

Thanks, I'll add it to the Quinnie excuse pile time line:

1. QUINN WILL DOMINATE TC

2. NO BIG DEAL, IT'S ONLY THE FIRST WEEKEND

3. HE'S NEVER BEEN A GREAT PRACTICE PLAYER

4. ITS PROBABLY NOT A REAL COMPETITION, SO HE'S JUST COASTING

5. EVERYBODY THROWS LOTS OF PICKS IN TC

6. (COMING SOON) THE SCRIMMAGE AT CBS IS MEANINGLESS

7. (COMING SOON) THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME IS MEANINGLESS

[Dan in Florida]

LATE TWEET JUST IN:

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Also, Dawg Scooper will again be at Browns practice tomorrow morning at 8:45AM tweeting

[D'Qwimbley]

Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Thursday 8/6 Practice

Written by Daniel Wolf

To start, there will be an added feature in this article due to many requests to see some actual stats from the quarterback competition. Please understand that the stats included in this article are not exact, but are pretty darn close to it.

Bad news first: Offensive lineman Rex Hadnot was injured and had to be carted off of the field.

At the start of practice, the players went through their normal warm-ups and stretching, then headed over to begin high-stepping drills.

What was entertaining is that while other players were zig-zagging around, Rogers was just running straight every time, and the coaches didn't seem to really care that he wasn't doing the same techniques as the other players. Some of the crowd found this humorous.

A couple players had to run some laps during the practice like Paul Hubbard and Rod Hood, to name a few.

Then, the special teams were practicing their punt protection inside the five-yard line, then inside the 10.

Nick Sorenson did take a punt snap for a fake and took off without the players on the other side of the ball realizing it, gaining a good 10-15 yards on the fake.

Immediately after that, the coach that was posing as the punter took a snap and ran straight up the middle and gained a good 20 yards. The players, coaches, and fans were all laughing because it was just a joke. Dave Zastudil did the same on a punt fake later in the practice.

The next drill was a passing drill, which had the receivers against the defensive backs but without the offensive and defensive lines.

This drill was not tracking statistically, because without the lines, there is no rush and pressure and therefore would not have been an accurate representation of a real game experience.

Anyway, the passing drill was very exciting. There were multiple long bombs that went for touchdowns to Brian Robiskie, Braylon Edwards, Josh Cribbs and Lance Leggett.

There was another deep pass to Edwards where he had to jump up for the ball. He out-jumped the defender to come down with the catch, but unfortunately, both of his feet were not in bounds.

Next, the team practiced the WildDawg formation, with Cribbs at quarterback and Brady Quinn spread outside at wide receiver. There were no passes to Quinn, so get that thought out of your mind right now. Cribbs ran a good dozen snaps from the WildDawg, but they were mostly runs by him or a misdirection play where Cribbs handed off to the running back and they both went opposite ways to confuse the defense.

Now, the moment everyone is waiting for: The first set of 11-on-11 scrimmage.

First up is Quinn, who did not look good at all. He was not throwing the ball deeper than 20 yards and his timing seemed to be off. He finished with one completion on four attempts for eight yards and one pick to safety Brodney Pool.

Anderson did not look much better, and you could tell that as the practice went on, the more frustrated he got. He had one completion on four attempts for 10 yards and one interception to cornerback Rod Hood, who took it back for a touchdown.

Anderson was extremely angry with himself, and you could hear his anger from the crowd.

The brightest moment in the first round of 11-on-11 was rookie running back James Davis, who juked, bobbed, and weaved through the defense and ran the ball for about a 45-yard touchdown. He is the real deal.

Now, onto the 7-on-7 drills.

This was much better for both quarterbacks, with Quinn completing three of five passes for 40 yards, and Anderson connecting on all four of his passes for 36 yards.

Running back Jamal Lewis did fumble a short pass and had to run a lap, and Robiskie made yet another great catch over the middle of the field for about 20 yards.

The second set of 11-on-11 drills was a little better for the quarterbacks, but not by much. Quinn was 2-for-3 for 27 yards, while Anderson was 2-for-4 for 14 yards.

The final part of practice was the most disappointing not only for the fans, but probably for the coaches two: The 11-on-11 one-minute drill.

This was all bad for both guys.

Quinn went first. He had a pass to tight end Steve Heiden for eight yards, two incompletions, and on fourth down threw a completion to Heiden for five yards for a first down.

The problem was that Quinn took too much time on the previous plays and there were only 13 seconds left on the clock. On the next snap, Quinn found Heiden, but only for three yards, and Heiden fumbled, which the defense took for a score.

Overall, Quinn looked shaken and didn't even try to take a chance downfield.

Anderson wasn't any better. He was looking downfield, but after three incompletions in a row, it was fourth down, and he was sacked by rookie linebacker David Veikune.

Both quarterbacks looked pretty bad overall, and the stats do not lie.

On a final brighter note, Veikune was playing inside linebacker with the second-team defense. He was all over the field making many tackles and ended practice with that sack of Anderson.

[Dan in Florida]

Lots of VIDEOS posted on the Browns site from today (see link below):

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/multimedia/archive.php