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  • Well at least the NFL nixed the deal that would of sent Clowney to the Ravens, that would of been hard to swallow

  • Well at least the NFL nixed the deal that would of sent Clowney to the Ravens, that would of been hard to swallow

    @footbalfan1962 said:

    Well at least the NFL nixed the deal that would of sent Clowney to the Ravens, that would of been hard to swallow

    I thought the deal that the NFL nixed regarding Clowney was between the Browns and Saints? Was there another deal? 

  • @d-bone said:

    This is the best possible time to play this game. With no pre-season, offenses all over the league are going to be out of sync, combine that with no game tape at all on the Browns new defense, and you have the possibility for anything to happen.

    ^ That being said, Harbaugh will make all of the in-game and half time adjustments that needs to be made, and it's just a matter of whether or not this new Browns coaching staff can also make theirs.... which if they do, will be the first time since Mr Belichick roamed the sidelines. 

    It's the exact opposite. Ravens are running the same offense from 2019 with the same OC and they run the ball a ton, they aren't a timing based offense, they are a power running smashmouth team that should get out of the gates hot. They shouldn't be affected much by the lack of a preseason, Lamar runs a lot of those concepts in his sleep.

    Us on the other hand do have a lot of kinks to work out in live game action with a new play caller. Hopefully Chubb can get going early and manufacture some rhythm to get our feet wet on offense

    I expect a similar game to the week 17 2018 game. Ravens jump on us early and we come fighting back in the 2nd half after we start to gel

    @billmurray said:

    It's the exact opposite. Ravens are running the same offense from 2019 with the same OC and they run the ball a ton, they aren't a timing based offense, they are a power running smashmouth team that should get out of the gates hot. They shouldn't be affected much by the lack of a preseason, Lamar runs a lot of those concepts in his sleep.

    Us on the other hand do have a lot of kinks to work out in live game action with a new play caller. Hopefully Chubb can get going early and manufacture some rhythm to get our feet wet on offense

    I expect a similar game to the week 17 2018 game. Ravens jump on us early and we come fighting back in the 2nd half after we start to gel

    Add to this the fact that BLT ought to be able to scrape up some 2019 Vikings tape somewhere...

  • @footbalfan1962 said:

    Well at least the NFL nixed the deal that would of sent Clowney to the Ravens, that would of been hard to swallow

    I thought the deal that the NFL nixed regarding Clowney was between the Browns and Saints? Was there another deal? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I thought the deal that the NFL nixed regarding Clowney was between the Browns and Saints? Was there another deal? 

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I thought the deal that the NFL nixed regarding Clowney was between the Browns and Saints? Was there another deal? 

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

    @footbalfan1962 said:

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

    Exactly and well put. This is basically the Brock Osweiler rule. 

  • What worked against the Ravens last year probably will be the way to beat them this year - jump out to a decent lead on them, make Lamar and their offense one-dimensional. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    What worked against the Ravens last year probably will be the way to beat them this year - jump out to a decent lead on them, make Lamar and their offense one-dimensional. 

    That's about it right there. 

    I just listened to the Ravens team breakdown by Browns Daily and...Jesus man, lol. This is definitely one of those "this is why they play the game" games where we have to win despite being outgunned. What really scares me is the Ravens don't really have to pass all that much if they don't want to and we don't have ANY linebackers with any experience playing Lamar AND our safeties haven't really played him (I don't think). 

    You can have the best plan in place but it all goes to crap once Lamar tucks the ball and outrun everyone on your defense, haha. Turnovers...that's how we'll beat them. We win the TO battle, we got a chance. We desperately need more possessions because I totally see the Ravens scoring a bunch of points. 

    Why couldn't we start with Jax? ? 

  • @footbalfan1962 said:

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

    Exactly and well put. This is basically the Brock Osweiler rule. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Exactly and well put. This is basically the Brock Osweiler rule. 

    Except we kept the Brockmeister on roster for a while and was allowed to compete for our starting role... a role Kizer won. ?

    Appears the Jags/Ravens' Clowney plan did not include any consideration of him being a Jag.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I thought the deal that the NFL nixed regarding Clowney was between the Browns and Saints? Was there another deal? 

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

    @footbalfan1962 said:

    That was a front, if deal was approved he wasnt going to sign with the Browns,he was going to sign with Jacksonville and the Jags were trading him to the Ravens, Clowney wanted to be in Baltimore... the NFL will likely address this issue, essentially a team is signing a player and picking up part of the salary in exchange for another teams draft picks,, basically a back door way to buy draft picks which you can't do

    May all your posts be this good....

    Wait....

    Been a member since 2013 and only 36 posts??? Well... you are one person I will never accuse of being a post-whore. 🙂

  • @tour2ma said:

    Some good news...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/09/browns-center-jc-tretter-is-on-track-to-face-the-ravens-bj-goodson-returns-to-practice.html

    I never thought he'd seriously be in jeopardy of missing the opener, but it's great to know that Nick Harris can get the job done (to some extent) if we need him. Tretter is a beast and I respect the heck out of him. 

    Speaking of OL, I'm a little terrified to think of of our shiny new rookie LT in his first contest against the Ravens. Godspeed, brotha! 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    What worked against the Ravens last year probably will be the way to beat them this year - jump out to a decent lead on them, make Lamar and their offense one-dimensional. 

    That's about it right there. 

    I just listened to the Ravens team breakdown by Browns Daily and...Jesus man, lol. This is definitely one of those "this is why they play the game" games where we have to win despite being outgunned. What really scares me is the Ravens don't really have to pass all that much if they don't want to and we don't have ANY linebackers with any experience playing Lamar AND our safeties haven't really played him (I don't think). 

    You can have the best plan in place but it all goes to crap once Lamar tucks the ball and outrun everyone on your defense, haha. Turnovers...that's how we'll beat them. We win the TO battle, we got a chance. We desperately need more possessions because I totally see the Ravens scoring a bunch of points. 

    Why couldn't we start with Jax? ? 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    That's about it right there. 

    I just listened to the Ravens team breakdown by Browns Daily and...Jesus man, lol. This is definitely one of those "this is why they play the game" games where we have to win despite being outgunned. What really scares me is the Ravens don't really have to pass all that much if they don't want to and we don't have ANY linebackers with any experience playing Lamar AND our safeties haven't really played him (I don't think). 

    You can have the best plan in place but it all goes to crap once Lamar tucks the ball and outrun everyone on your defense, haha. Turnovers...that's how we'll beat them. We win the TO battle, we got a chance. We desperately need more possessions because I totally see the Ravens scoring a bunch of points. 

    Why couldn't we start with Jax? ? 

    I think This is The time to play The Rats.

    Maybe we see a defensive wrinkle?

    Does anyone recall the Chargers Ravens playoff game a few years back where they traded their LBs out and Put in an extra safety.  They played with 6 DBs/Safeties most of the game.  They were flying to ball with the extra speed on D.  Who knows...

  • Offenses lag vs defenses - early in season.

    I'm not worried much about containing the ravens O.. I'm worried about our OL blocking their front 7 because Conklin and Bito can't do everything.  Tretter is out week1, Wills is still in offseason form, and Wyatt Teller is the name of an Amish carnival barker.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Offenses lag vs defenses - early in season.

    I'm not worried much about containing the ravens O.. I'm worried about our OL blocking their front 7 because Conklin and Bito can't do everything.  Tretter is out week1, Wills is still in offseason form, and Wyatt Teller is the name of an Amish carnival barker.

    Tretter is back. My only concern is Jedrick Wills, and unfortunately that's a humongous one. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Offenses lag vs defenses - early in season.

    I'm not worried much about containing the ravens O.. I'm worried about our OL blocking their front 7 because Conklin and Bito can't do everything.  Tretter is out week1, Wills is still in offseason form, and Wyatt Teller is the name of an Amish carnival barker.

    Tretter is back. My only concern is Jedrick Wills, and unfortunately that's a humongous one. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Tretter is back.

    He is practicing on a limited basis. He is absolutely NOT confirmed to play.. Monday was his first practice all summer, he's not back to game speed yet.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Tretter is back.

    He is practicing on a limited basis. He is absolutely NOT confirmed to play.. Monday was his first practice all summer, he's not back to game speed yet.

    @unsympathetic said:

    He is practicing on a limited basis. He is absolutely NOT confirmed to play.. Monday was his first practice all summer, he's not back to game speed yet.

    That's true, but I'd be beyond shocked if he didn't play. 

  • He was limited again today.. Get your beyond ready.

  • Tretter is a tough dude he’s played through injuries throughout his career.  But I wonder if at this point he’s in ANY type of game shape.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Offenses lag vs defenses - early in season.

    I'm not worried much about containing the ravens O.. I'm worried about our OL blocking their front 7 because Conklin and Bito can't do everything.  Tretter is out week1, Wills is still in offseason form, and Wyatt Teller is the name of an Amish carnival barker.

    Tretter is back. My only concern is Jedrick Wills, and unfortunately that's a humongous one. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     My only concern is Jedrick Wills, and unfortunately that's a humongous one. 

    Try a 'Cup of Joe' ☕... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/cup-of-joe-what-jedrick-wills-jr-can-expect-during-his-rookie-season  these should be a good read weekly  

  • Browns C JC Tretter, who recently returned to practice following a procedure on his knee, is considered questionable for Sunday's season opener.

    Tretter returned to practice Monday and was listed as a limited participant Wednesday and Thursday. The veteran center has not missed a start since he signed with the Browns in 2017.

    CB M.J. Stewart (hamstring) was also listed as questionable. He's been back at practice since Monday and was also a limited participant throughout the week.

    Four Browns players who did not practice this week have been listed as out: CB Greedy Williams (shoulder), CB Kevin Johnson (liver), LB Mack Wilson (knee) and T Chris Hubbard (ankle).

    Corners on PS? AJ Green & Robert Jackson..T/G--M.Dunn, Aiello & G.Senat.. 

  • I have no feeling on earth why... Call it the Homer syndrome.. I like the Browns by 3 points... I expect this game to be all kinds of a mess and low scoring... a game the browns can eek out with some luck....