Winslow and his big mouth/ego.
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You had better not shed a tear foe Winslow.
This team only came closer together once the a-hole was gone.
Do you really want a rook emulating Winslow? No thanks.
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@shepwrite said:
The HOF TE of our era is Gonzales, who led the Chiefs to, uhm... uh...Remember how much the Giants missed Shockey? They had to win the Super Bowl just to stop crying over it.
(I am not a big fan of TEs paid like #1 WRs.)
I'm trying to think of the last team to succeed with their primary receiving threat as a TE...probably the Ravens with Shannon Sharpe, and then only because their QB at the time couldn't get the ball downfield to the WRs. Even Ozzie wasn't the big-play guy for the team's successful years in the mid-late 80s, with Slaughter and Langhorne (and Brennan thrown in for good measure). The TEs that you want are guys who are sure-handed, block, and get the team fired up by dragging six guys around from time to time (Mark Bavaro comes to mind).
Dennis
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@inspecta said:
I agree about Winslow, he was a nice outlet for DA when he got flustered and couldn't get pass his 1st read, but the guy has scored 6 freakin' touchdowns in his career. Not a game changer, but most fans think he was because the announcers called his name so often after a 7yd dumpoff catch.In fairness, if the people on this board are any indication, he was playing with the second coming of Helen Keller, so six touchdowns is a minor miracle.
Dennis
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@shepwrite said:
The HOF TE of our era is Gonzales, who led the Chiefs to, uhm... uh...Remember how much the Giants missed Shockey? They had to win the Super Bowl just to stop crying over it.
(I am not a big fan of TEs paid like #1 WRs.)
I'm trying to think of the last team to succeed with their primary receiving threat as a TE...probably the Ravens with Shannon Sharpe, and then only because their QB at the time couldn't get the ball downfield to the WRs. Even Ozzie wasn't the big-play guy for the team's successful years in the mid-late 80s, with Slaughter and Langhorne (and Brennan thrown in for good measure). The TEs that you want are guys who are sure-handed, block, and get the team fired up by dragging six guys around from time to time (Mark Bavaro comes to mind).
Dennis
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Morris is absolutely right. those emotional rollercoasters of Winslows are killers to the team. Hopefully it's a lesson that sinks in, but I kind of doubt it with Winslow. The guys a ticking time bomb... worse than that.. he'll never play a full season.. We made the right move.
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Loved his fire his competitiveness, his hands, blows my mind how good he could have been had he not gotten injured.
Glad we pulled the trigger on the trade when we did.
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Loved his fire his competitiveness, his hands, blows my mind how good he could have been had he not gotten injured.
Glad we pulled the trigger on the trade when we did.
Loved his fire his competitiveness, his hands, blows my mind how good he could have been had he not gotten injured.
Glad we pulled the trigger on the trade when we did.
Could not agree more sir
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winslow causing problems....im so stunned you could knock me over with a feather

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stars at the TE position are a luxury anyway and they definitely aren't necessary to win football games, just get a good blocker, and give him the occasional throw in the red zone for him to be a threat, but really all you need is a good blocker.
Winslow wasn't one, so essentially he was redundant to the team, and probably detrimental to it. I liked him, I loved his "I'm a xxxxin soldier" rage rant as much as the next guy, but it was best to let him go while we still could, and mangini understood that. he understood he needed to trade him while he still had trade value.
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@inspecta said:
Although that one time he punked Porter and threw him to the ground like a rag doll was sweet.My all-time favorite K2 memory. Nothing else comes close.
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