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  • Bengals were missing both starting DT's Atkins and Daniels.. let's play another team's starters before declaring anything fixed.

    Yes, good, but one game does not a trend make. They did not play like this last week.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Bengals were missing both starting DT's Atkins and Daniels.. let's play another team's starters before declaring anything fixed.

    Yes, good, but one game does not a trend make. They did not play like this last week.

    I would totally agree... By the same token.. Don't piss on everyone's cheerios and savor the win... And as I said.. one good game by OBJ does not define his career or his 2020 campaign...

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Terrific article on our blocking. 

    https://247sports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Cleveland-Browns-How-Andy-Janovich-And-Austin-Hooper-Elevated-The-Browns-Run-Game-151642556/Amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16006065181733&amp_ct=1600607094298&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fnfl%2Fcleveland-browns%2FArticle%2FCleveland-Browns-How-Andy-Janovich-And-Austin-Hooper-Elevated-The-Browns-Run-Game-151642556%2F

    seems like brilliant play design, and downright excellent blocking/execution. I love the jet fake - if the safety? cheats in to cover the run, he's toast if the ball is rifled to Nelson on the outside, and vice versa. Taking a big step toward Nelson on the outside, he has to try to come back inside - and meet up? with Chubb or Hunt?

    Traded for Andy Janovich for just a 7th round pick? Wow.

    and the offense is getting ready to roll - these guys were having fun - Janovich says they could have had far more yards running the ball.

    He's a huge fan of Hunt and Chubb, and vice versa. They are having FUN....and they credit the offensive line. Great situation to have.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-fb-andy-janovich-on-running-vs-the-bengals-e2-80-98we-could-e2-80-99ve-had-300-or-400-yards-if-we-wanted-e2-80-99/ar-BB19bEQf?ocid=uxbndlbing

    Browns FB Andy Janovich on running vs. the Bengals: ‘We could’ve had 300 or 400 yards if we wanted’

        THANKS for this article !

  • When the run game works for 3-5 yds... that's the OL.

    When the run game works for chunks that's the OL + TEs + WRs... add a FB to the mix and you've got "Gold, Jerry... gold!"

  • Wills vs Young? Gonna be a good battle in the trenches next week.

  • Wills vs Young? Gonna be a good battle in the trenches next week.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Wills vs Young? Gonna be a good battle in the trenches next week.

    I’m watching their game now.  Their Dline is Uber aggressive.  We are going to have our hands full in obvious pass downs BUT I think we are going to run well and we may even try to run at Chase 

  • Good job by the OL.   Man...I've been very concerned about that unit, with the injuries, new system, no preseason to get cohesive.  Great game against the bengals.  But, it was, the bengals....

  • Good job by the OL.   Man...I've been very concerned about that unit, with the injuries, new system, no preseason to get cohesive.  Great game against the bengals.  But, it was, the bengals....

    @orion said:

    Good job by the OL.   Man...I've been very concerned about that unit, with the injuries, new system, no preseason to get cohesive.  Great game against the bengals.  But, it was, the bengals....

    Very true, and they didn't have Geno Atkins who has historically killed us, but they still had some gorillas on that DL and we absolutely baptized them. 

    You want the REAL test? That's coming Sunday against Washington. Just look at their DL, it's disgusting. It's gonna be a battle royale! I think they'll definitely make some big plays against us, but I'm hoping our returning defenders will help balance out the damage they cause. It really should be a good game. I think it'll be an ugly game and will most likely come down to the last 5 minutes. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the final score was 19-16, Browns. 

  • @orion said:

    Good job by the OL.   Man...I've been very concerned about that unit, with the injuries, new system, no preseason to get cohesive.  Great game against the bengals.  But, it was, the bengals....

    Very true, and they didn't have Geno Atkins who has historically killed us, but they still had some gorillas on that DL and we absolutely baptized them. 

    You want the REAL test? That's coming Sunday against Washington. Just look at their DL, it's disgusting. It's gonna be a battle royale! I think they'll definitely make some big plays against us, but I'm hoping our returning defenders will help balance out the damage they cause. It really should be a good game. I think it'll be an ugly game and will most likely come down to the last 5 minutes. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the final score was 19-16, Browns. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Very true, and they didn't have Geno Atkins who has historically killed us, but they still had some gorillas on that DL and we absolutely baptized them. 

    You want the REAL test? That's coming Sunday against Washington. Just look at their DL, it's disgusting. It's gonna be a battle royale! I think they'll definitely make some big plays against us, but I'm hoping our returning defenders will help balance out the damage they cause. It really should be a good game. I think it'll be an ugly game and will most likely come down to the last 5 minutes. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the final score was 19-16, Browns. 

    We need Jack Conklin back.  I don’t see Chris Hubbard handling Montez Sweat on that side - bad matchup for Hubbard.  If I can have one guy back this week it’s Conklin.

    I watched Washington’s game yesterday. Chase Young made a lot of plays in backside pursuit.  He’s such a fluid athlete.  He will spoil a handful of plays getting to the other sideline on the stretch play we run. I think You run at him.  

    Very similar to what we need to do against Pittsburgh.  We need to stay 3rd and less than 5.  This is a better front when it’s 3rd and long and they have just one job to think about (get the QB).  I see a lot of opportunities to make plays against their aggressive nature Sweat and Young can get out of position. 
     

    this is a game where we take 2,3,4 yards in the first half but stick with it in the second half and make a statement and pull away. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Very true, and they didn't have Geno Atkins who has historically killed us, but they still had some gorillas on that DL and we absolutely baptized them. 

    You want the REAL test? That's coming Sunday against Washington. Just look at their DL, it's disgusting. It's gonna be a battle royale! I think they'll definitely make some big plays against us, but I'm hoping our returning defenders will help balance out the damage they cause. It really should be a good game. I think it'll be an ugly game and will most likely come down to the last 5 minutes. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the final score was 19-16, Browns. 

    We need Jack Conklin back.  I don’t see Chris Hubbard handling Montez Sweat on that side - bad matchup for Hubbard.  If I can have one guy back this week it’s Conklin.

    I watched Washington’s game yesterday. Chase Young made a lot of plays in backside pursuit.  He’s such a fluid athlete.  He will spoil a handful of plays getting to the other sideline on the stretch play we run. I think You run at him.  

    Very similar to what we need to do against Pittsburgh.  We need to stay 3rd and less than 5.  This is a better front when it’s 3rd and long and they have just one job to think about (get the QB).  I see a lot of opportunities to make plays against their aggressive nature Sweat and Young can get out of position. 
     

    this is a game where we take 2,3,4 yards in the first half but stick with it in the second half and make a statement and pull away. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We need Jack Conklin back.  I don’t see Chris Hubbard handling Montez Sweat on that side - bad matchup for Hubbard.  If I can have one guy back this week it’s Conklin.

    I watched Washington’s game yesterday. Chase Young made a lot of plays in backside pursuit.  He’s such a fluid athlete.  He will spoil a handful of plays getting to the other sideline on the stretch play we run. I think You run at him.  

    Very similar to what we need to do against Pittsburgh.  We need to stay 3rd and less than 5.  This is a better front when it’s 3rd and long and they have just one job to think about (get the QB).  I see a lot of opportunities to make plays against their aggressive nature Sweat and Young can get out of position. 
     

    this is a game where we take 2,3,4 yards in the first half but stick with it in the second half and make a statement and pull away. 

    I think we should just haul off and throw a bomb the first play, to get the safeties back on their heels, and get inside the heads of the defense.

       Kosar loved to do that. If I remember correctly, the Bengals did it the last game.

    Starting off running the ball to establish the run to set up play action - won't work I think vs washington. (they will always be the "Redskins" to me.)

         then sometime after that, you start hammering them with the running game. Just my two cents.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    We need Jack Conklin back.  I don’t see Chris Hubbard handling Montez Sweat on that side - bad matchup for Hubbard.  If I can have one guy back this week it’s Conklin.

    I watched Washington’s game yesterday. Chase Young made a lot of plays in backside pursuit.  He’s such a fluid athlete.  He will spoil a handful of plays getting to the other sideline on the stretch play we run. I think You run at him.  

    Very similar to what we need to do against Pittsburgh.  We need to stay 3rd and less than 5.  This is a better front when it’s 3rd and long and they have just one job to think about (get the QB).  I see a lot of opportunities to make plays against their aggressive nature Sweat and Young can get out of position. 
     

    this is a game where we take 2,3,4 yards in the first half but stick with it in the second half and make a statement and pull away. 

    I think we should just haul off and throw a bomb the first play, to get the safeties back on their heels, and get inside the heads of the defense.

       Kosar loved to do that. If I remember correctly, the Bengals did it the last game.

    Starting off running the ball to establish the run to set up play action - won't work I think vs washington. (they will always be the "Redskins" to me.)

         then sometime after that, you start hammering them with the running game. Just my two cents.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think we should just haul off and throw a bomb the first play, to get the safeties back on their heels, and get inside the heads of the defense.

       Kosar loved to do that. If I remember correctly, the Bengals did it the last game.

    Starting off running the ball to establish the run to set up play action - won't work I think vs washington. (they will always be the "Redskins" to me.)

         then sometime after that, you start hammering them with the running game. Just my two cents.

    I was just focusing on our Oline vs their Dline.  They looked suspect in the back 7 as well.  One of their top cover corners was out.  He may be back this week but I like your idea and I remember Bernie doing that well.  
     

  • Analysis of Bryant - We could do a lot worse than his 73.1 out of our TE

  • Analysis of Bryant - We could do a lot worse than his 73.1 out of our TE

    @unsympathetic said:

    Analysis of Bryant - We could do a lot worse than his 73.1 out of our TE

    I hear ya. Bryant was an offensive tackle in high school so it's not like he's not used to blocking people.

  • For the caliber of Defensive Line they faced today, I think the line played pretty well again.

  • Things are really looking good - the offensive line is fixed up, playing very well.

    The Browns' oline "engine" is a fast car.

    https://www.brownsnation.com/browns-offensive-line-once-again-earns-top-pff-grades/

  • The overall OL play is a huge pleasant surprise to me.  I was so extremely concerned that it would be our offenses' downfall.  They're playing pretty well and keeping the penalties down.  And the FB has been quite an addition for Stef's offense.  And he's caught a couple of passes so a defense cannot totally ignore the Janovich on a pass play.

  • And Hooper's the most expensive blocking TE in league history.. well, he's good at catching when asked, which isn't as often as you'd think..

  • Yea unfortunately the offense isn’t passing the ball very often in the near future. And that’s ok. We all know what the strength is of the offense 

  • The overall OL play is a huge pleasant surprise to me.  I was so extremely concerned that it would be our offenses' downfall.  They're playing pretty well and keeping the penalties down.  And the FB has been quite an addition for Stef's offense.  And he's caught a couple of passes so a defense cannot totally ignore the Janovich on a pass play.

    @orion said:

    The overall OL play is a huge pleasant surprise to me. 

    Mild surprise here as I knew/believed Wills could do the job, albeit with a full, normal camp and Preseason.

    And I think we all knew/believed Bito, Tretter and Conklin were going to be good.

    That left RG, where Teller has been an unexpected blessing, and cohesive play, which again minus camp and Preseason, is well above at least my expectations.

    I may need to dig up my old grading form... 🙂

  • @orion said:

    The overall OL play is a huge pleasant surprise to me. 

    Mild surprise here as I knew/believed Wills could do the job, albeit with a full, normal camp and Preseason.

    And I think we all knew/believed Bito, Tretter and Conklin were going to be good.

    That left RG, where Teller has been an unexpected blessing, and cohesive play, which again minus camp and Preseason, is well above at least my expectations.

    I may need to dig up my old grading form... 🙂

    @tour2ma said:

    Mild surprise here as I knew/believed Wills could do the job, albeit with a full, normal camp and Preseason.

    And I think we all knew/believed Bito, Tretter and Conklin were going to be good.

    That left RG, where Teller has been an unexpected blessing, and cohesive play, which again minus camp and Preseason, is well above at least my expectations.

    I may need to dig up my old grading form... 🙂

    The impact of Bill Callahan cannot be overstated. Better players and for sure much better coaching.