The Herd: OBJ, Baker just didn't jive

[The Gipper]

@icecube said:

This breaks board rules. You are in compliance.

There are no rules when it come to responding to myopic morons. 

[Icecube]

@gunz41 said:

Good gosh man, we get it you don't like OBJ, but like I said in the last few days, using Cowherd to prove ANY point makes you lose ALL credibility. Now you appear to be a troll just like him.

But since you apparently didn't see that, I will give you MANY examples of Colin and shows just how uninformed using him makes you.

1. 2018: At the end of the NFL regular season, Colin was on his huge bandwagon for his 1st NFL man crush Andrew Luck as just as deserving as Mahomes for MVP. He declared that the winner of their playoff game was the one deserving of the crown. Chiefs win. Instead of coming out and say PM, well Luck is so much at a disadvantage with what surrounding him.

2. Right before the draft, Baker was undraftable and he compared EVERY aspect of Baker to Manziel. Not long after Baker was drafted he was a guest on Colin show. He said to Bakers face that he NEVER compared the 2. 

3. Before this past season with the LAL, Colin (who is usually one of the biggest LBJ fans there is), said that James just wasn't nearly as impactful as he once was, and maybe the new league had passed him by. Now after this championship, he is by far the best player in league and the most impactful player in NBA HISTORY.

4. Back to the Browns, he never really changed his tune on Baker even after the record setting rookie year. Yet after less than a full year he is already crowning Herbert, on his way to doing it with Burrow. Speaking of Burrow, up until he played the Browns, he was just going to be a pretty good QB, but Tua was transformational. Tua plays for mop up duty and then gets named the starter and Colin has an epiphany that Tua isn't going to be decent. And don't forget that ANY success Sam Darnold has Colin calls it a positive and will not be objective. He even said recently if he were the Jets he would not get rid of Darnold for Trevor Lawrence.

5. ZERO % chance that Durant joins the Warriors and he doesn't think it is a good move. 

And there are many more. A quick YouTube search can find them.

But, if you really want to know about him and his "takes" all you have to do is hear what he said yesterday. He actually said on air that he doesn't care if he says things that are wrong or end up being wrong. What does that tell you, its ALL about creating headlines, and in some instances when it benefits him he will not change a stance because of it. 

I could show you just as many takes where Colin has ben dead on. What will that prove? 

[browns52]

@tour2ma said:

Seriously...

When are you going to learn to wait for it to actually happen before taking your victory lap?

Or are you into abuse?

i don't think you need to hear it from any source.....if you can't tell they did not hit it off, you need to get out of denial....it was another failed cleveland project....i know everytime i saw them on the sidelines was after a miscommunicated pass play....yodell pointing one direction and baker pointing another direction after the play.....i don't think they disliked each other....they just did not have the chemistry........don't know what will happen to yodell but what fucking team would want him....maybe the pats....they have to be desparate because they only have 1 reciever and he is currently banged up....however, they tried it with antonio and we all saw how that worked out....in any event, i think the browns are already trying to figure out how to get rid of this guy.....

[nickers]

@browns52 said:

i don't think you need to hear it from any source.....if you can't tell they did not hit it off, you need to get out of denial....it was another failed cleveland project....i know everytime i saw them on the sidelines was after a miscommunicated pass play....yodell pointing one direction and baker pointing another direction after the play.....i don't think they disliked each other....they just did not have the chemistry........don't know what will happen to yodell but what fucking team would want him....maybe the pats....they have to be desparate because they only have 1 reciever and he is currently banged up....however, they tried it with antonio and we all saw how that worked out....in any event, i think the browns are already trying to figure out how to get rid of this guy.....

At this point I would let him walk... He won't be the same anyway... Hes already 6=7 years in the league... Cut our losses and move on..

[browns52]

@nickers said:

At this point I would let him walk... He won't be the same anyway... Hes already 6=7 years in the league... Cut our losses and move on..

yeah, i reckon you are correct....he definetly won't be the same....don't know what we can get for him though.....

[Gorka]

@browns52 said:

i don't think you need to hear it from any source.....if you can't tell they did not hit it off, you need to get out of denial....it was another failed cleveland project....i know everytime i saw them on the sidelines was after a miscommunicated pass play....yodell pointing one direction and baker pointing another direction after the play.....i don't think they disliked each other....they just did not have the chemistry........don't know what will happen to yodell but what fucking team would want him....maybe the pats....they have to be desparate because they only have 1 reciever and he is currently banged up....however, they tried it with antonio and we all saw how that worked out....in any event, i think the browns are already trying to figure out how to get rid of this guy.....

It's unheard of that a team trades for a player coming off a torn ACL though.  He's gotta prove he can still play, so that means he aint goin anywhere...unless they just cut him.

[Tour2ma]

@nero said:

(calisthenics, anyone?) Comment on your favorite cereals if you wish. It'll be more interesting. 

Hands down.... Raisin Bran Crunch(es)...

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Honey Nut Cheerios, Raisin Bran Crunch a close second.

[nickers]

Golden Grahams still my fave...

[Gunz41]

@icecube said:

I could show you just as many takes where Colin has ben dead on. What will that prove? 

Is this a serious question? Being "dead on" has NOTHING to do with it. I never ONCE said he was right or wrong. If you took out of that post his right/wrong percentage then you just don't want to see it.

But I will go through them once again, and highlight the points. 

1. Mahomes/Luck MVP. Whether Mahomes or Luck deserved the MVP isn't the point. Before they had their playoff game he said the winner was the MVP. After made excuses why Luck didn't win. Those excuses were present BEFORE they played. 

2. Baker: He didn't waver on his stance that he wouldn't draft Baker. But what else do you want to call it when he tells Baker to his face he never compared him to Manziel when he most certainly had. Did he forget? Or was he trying to save face with Baker there? 

3. The LBJ thing. Maybe he was premature in declaring he was done? 

4. The Baker/Sam thing. Are you really trying to say he doesn't have a different set of standards for the 2? You don't think he has a bias here? Tua/Burrow- what exactly do you think he used to justify the complete 180 on them? 

5. You started this thread talking about his inside sources etc. If he was hearing 0% on Durant, how accurate are his sources?

Now, I completely understand and don't fault him for having these hot takes. That is how he gets his following. But when you say you don't care if you are right and then completely show a bias based on previous takes then that makes you inauthentic. Or look at it another way. He had some thing last week about how the Browns are by far the most over discussed team in history. Yet he does it consistently, makes excuses (that can certainly be fact) when they do well and just rags on them when they struggle. I'll bet if you go back over the course of this season, he has commented an average of 5 times a game for the Browns. That may not seem like a bunch, but when there is probably only 4 other games he commented on period that week puts it in perspective. 

But if Colin (or ANY of these guys with Talk Shows) is where you want to get your info from then you're in trouble.

P.S.: And by the way, continuing to say the same thing and eventually being right does not make you right. You guaranteed us that OBJ wouldn't be back this year. But in your manner I have a prediction for you, WARNING HOT TAKE: LeBron James will leave the Lakers. You probably don't comprehend the rub there. Just like your OBJ take, eventually it WILL be right. But when you are off for months and months, over a season, then you didn't say anything more than what I just did about LBJ. 

[The Gipper]

Do you know that despite Fruit Loops having a bunch of different  colors, all of them are actually the exact same flavor?

 There is no actual fruit in Froot Loops and they are all the same flavor. Kellogg's introduced Froot Loops in 1963. ... Although the marketing side of Kellogg's misleadingly sold the idea that each individual loop color was a different flavor, Kellogg's has acknowledged that all share the same fruit-blend flavor.

[The Gipper]

The word cereal derives from Ceres, the name of the Roman goddess of harvest and agriculture. March 7th is National Cereal Day. The first cerealgrains were domesticated by early primitive humans, about 8,000 years ago. 50 percent of Americans start their days with cereal.

[The Gipper]

Fun and Interesting Facts about Cereals

History of breakfast cereals, as we know them today, is relatively short (circa 150 years) but there are still some interesting facts that could be told about them.

• The cereal industry in the United States uses over 400 million kilograms of sugar per year.
• Kellogg's Corn Flakes were eaten by astronauts aboard Apollo 11 which made the first landing on the Moon. The cereal was mixed with fruit and pressed into cubes to make them easier to eat in the conditions of zero gravity.
• Term “cereals” comes from Ceres, ancient Roman goddess of agriculture.
• Kellogg's breakfast cereals “Honey Smacks” and “Golden Crisp” have more than 50% sugar.
• 50% of Americans eat cereals for breakfast every day.
• The first cereal was so-called “Granula”. It had to be soaked in water whole night before it could be prepared for eating.
• Advertisement of cereals started targeting children after the Second World War.
• Americans eat 50 kg of cereal per person every year or 160 bowls.
• Today's breakfast cereals that are healthier are more often targeted at adults.
• The most popular items sold in grocery stores are milk and carbonated beverages. After them come breakfast cereals.
• The first mass-marketed commercial item to offer a prize was Corn Flakes.

• One of the predecessors of breakfast cereal was popcorn which American colonists used to eat with cream and sugar.
• Puffed cereal is made in pressure cookers. The first pressure cooker for this purpose was made from a converted cannon that was used in the Spanish-American war.
• Breakfast cereals were invented in 19th century as an answer to a very unhealthy eating habits of the people of that time and as bland food that will calm the passions according to the Seventh-day Adventists which invented it.
• Cheerios were first called “Cheerioats” but Quaker Oates complained so the name was changed in 1945.
• Quaker Oats gave an interesting prize in their cereals in the 1950s. As an advertisement for their cereals and a CBS’s TV show “Sergeant Preston of the Yukon” they gave a deed of land for one square inch of Yukon land for every box top from their cereal.
• John Draper (AKA Captain Crunch, named after Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal mascot) used plastic whistle that was a prize in Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal to make free phone calls in the 1970s.
• Cereals are a rich source of fiber.
• Kellogg's, General Mills, Post, and Quaker Oats are the four greatest manufacturers of breakfast cereals.
• Fruit_Brute_Cereal "Fruit Brute” was a brand of cereals sold in 1970s by General Mills and later discontinued. Filmmaker Quentin Tarantino has some of the boxes of original “Fruit Brute” and he uses them in his films as a director's trademark.
• The first company to have an advertisement on the Times Square billboard in New York was Kellogg's.
• Battle Creek, Michigan is considered the "Cereal Capital of the World" because it is the hometown of Kellogg and Post, two of the four largest cereal manufacturers in the world.
• The full name of “Cap'n Crunch” mascot is Horatio Magellan Crunch. His place of birth is Crunch Island in the Sea of Milk.
• Over 2.7 billion packages of cereal are sold every year.
• The first “monster cereal” produced by General Mills in the 1970s was “Count Chocula”. It is still produced today but it is sold only around Halloween.
• One bushel of wheat (36 liters) can produce 53 boxes of breakfast cereals.
• United States are only 4th in world-wide cereal consumption. Before them are Ireland, England and Australia.

[The Gipper]

 Cereal Was Invented to Stunt Your Sex Drive
Yes, yours, you dirty so and so. John Harvey Kellogg was convinced that a healthy sex drive was evil and resulted in unhealthy habits, like bad posture, fickleness, bashfulness, boldness, and even fondness for spicy food (that’s it, I’m joining a nunnery!) And at the root of healthy sex drives? Poor eating habits. Meat and seasoned food brought on wanton thoughts. His solution? Dull food. So he invented the dullest of foods, Corn Flakes. Luckily for the rest of us, he got his brother Will involved. That’s because it was Will who said, “Hey, this food’s too dull. Let’s add sugar and sell it and make lot’s of money so we can meet pretty women and have lots of wanton sex.” (I may be off a little bit on the exact quotes, but that’s how I picture it.) John Harvey wanted nothing to do with it, so Will said “fine,” (or something along those lines) and opened up the Kellogg Company and started selling the Corn Flakes we all know and love and eat before and after sex.

[The Gipper]

The Breakfast of Me (Because I’m a Champion) 
Wheaties started putting athletes on their box in 1934. The very first was the great Yankee star … No, not that one, the other one … no, not him either. The guy who sort of looks like Gary Cooper. No, not him, Lou Gehrig. Since then, it seems that everyone other than dart throwers have graced the front of the box. Such sports luminaries include: Aaron Rodgers, Stephen Curry, Lindsey Vonn, Peyton Manning, Mia Hamm, Richard Petty, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Michael Jordon, Roy Campanella, Hank Greenberg, Mel Ott, and Jesse Owns.  The First High School Athlete to appear on the cover of Wheaties was Massillon, Ohio football player Chris Spielman. 

[The Gipper]

There Have Been Some Bizarre Cereals Along the Way
Cereal makers probably think we’re all so groggy in the morning that we won’t stop to think, “What the heck am I eating?!” Here’s a list of cereals—some that were actually on the market; others I can only wish for. Can you tell which is which?

1)    Sir Grapefellow
2)    Kellogg’s Oks
3)    King Vitamin
4)    Post Steak-O’s
5)    Mr. Wonderfull’s Surprize
6)    NutCases
7)    Crunchy Loggs
    Strawberry Colon Cleanse
9)    Grins & Smiles & Giggles & Laughs
10)    Green Cereal & Ham
11)    Freakies
12)    Snotz
13)    Moonstones
14)    Corn Flukes (Made with real fish!)
15)    Wackies

[The Gipper]

The Marx Brothers had Zeppo; Snap!, Crackle!, and Pop! Had Pow
We all know that Rice Krispies has three “pitch elves,” but did you know at one point there was a fourth? A long, lost brother who’s never invited to family gatherings? It was in the 1950s when Pow! was introduced. He was a “spaceman,” meant to exude the power of whole grain rice, a Kellogg’s spokesman told Smithsonian.com. Unfortunately, Pow! was more of a Pfft, and was soon dropped. (These facts about our world will surprise you.)

[The Gipper]

Frosted Flakes were introduced in 1952, and its popular mascot, Tony the Tiger, was voiced by Thurl Ravenscroft for more than 50 years. A Nebraska native who left for Hollywood as a teenager, Ravenscroft provided voiceovers for many Disneyland rides, including the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean. He also sang, uncredited, "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch" in the famed cartoon film, How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

[The Gipper]

When it was first released, Franken Berry cereal was causing people to have pink poop.

[The Gipper]

 One time The Rock made fun of John Cena's 

, comparing him to a bowl of Fruity Pebbles. This led to Fruity Pebbles replacing Fred Flintstone with John Cena on 4 million boxes of cereal.