Survey Black Friday
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Notre Dame has spent the last two decades trying to avoid OSU there is no rivalry and when they meet- it is a mouse playing with a ball of cheese.
Notre Dame has spent the last two decades trying to avoid OSU there is no rivalry and when they meet- it is a mouse playing with a ball of cheese.
Ohio State and Notre Dame play each other in 2022 and 2023.
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Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
You are missing one really obvious opponent - Cincinnati.
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Notre Dame has spent the last two decades trying to avoid OSU there is no rivalry and when they meet- it is a mouse playing with a ball of cheese.
Ohio State and Notre Dame play each other in 2022 and 2023.
Ohio State and Notre Dame play each other in 2022 and 2023.
Yes i know and it is about time and they should play more often.
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A&M 20 LSU 7 Permanent replacement for T-Day weekend.?
Are you trying to claim that this is now some kind of a rivalry game for you now? That is a pretty lame excuse for ducking out on playing Texas.
Are you trying to claim that this is now some kind of a rivalry game for you now? That is a pretty lame excuse for ducking out on playing Texas.
F Texas. LSU has always been an as good or better team than those cheating putzes. Their AD was the reason 4 teams deserted that conference. He was trying to make everyone else play with pawns against a board of queens. Those teams got tired of it and OU would have also gone to the Pac 12 if only the Pac-12 would have also accepted Ok.St.which they would not. The SEC does revenue sharing regardless of how good or bad a team you have. Texas's AD was unwilling to do so. Plus they tried to use the Longhorn Network to gain recruits by broadcasting the HS games of the ones they wanted most. That was the final straw for Mo. and A&M, so they contacted the SEC to ask if the prior offer was still good. The NCAA stepped in and ruled that a recruiting violation, but the cows were already out of the barn. Neb and Colo. had already fled by the time Mo. and A&M made their decisions.
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Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
You are missing one really obvious opponent - Cincinnati.
You are missing one really obvious opponent - Cincinnati.
Could be in the future. Sure.
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Are you trying to claim that this is now some kind of a rivalry game for you now? That is a pretty lame excuse for ducking out on playing Texas.
F Texas. LSU has always been an as good or better team than those cheating putzes. Their AD was the reason 4 teams deserted that conference. He was trying to make everyone else play with pawns against a board of queens. Those teams got tired of it and OU would have also gone to the Pac 12 if only the Pac-12 would have also accepted Ok.St.which they would not. The SEC does revenue sharing regardless of how good or bad a team you have. Texas's AD was unwilling to do so. Plus they tried to use the Longhorn Network to gain recruits by broadcasting the HS games of the ones they wanted most. That was the final straw for Mo. and A&M, so they contacted the SEC to ask if the prior offer was still good. The NCAA stepped in and ruled that a recruiting violation, but the cows were already out of the barn. Neb and Colo. had already fled by the time Mo. and A&M made their decisions.
F Texas. LSU has always been an as good or better team than those cheating putzes. Their AD was the reason 4 teams deserted that conference. He was trying to make everyone else play with pawns against a board of queens. Those teams got tired of it and OU would have also gone to the Pac 12 if only the Pac-12 would have also accepted Ok.St.which they would not. The SEC does revenue sharing regardless of how good or bad a team you have. Texas's AD was unwilling to do so. Plus they tried to use the Longhorn Network to gain recruits by broadcasting the HS games of the ones they wanted most. That was the final straw for Mo. and A&M, so they contacted the SEC to ask if the prior offer was still good. The NCAA stepped in and ruled that a recruiting violation, but the cows were already out of the barn. Neb and Colo. had already fled by the time Mo. and A&M made their decisions.
So, what you are saying is that TAMU could not compete at the same game, so they took their ball to someone else's court.
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Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers. When the heck has Rutgers done anything, but I get it, the Big 10 wanted to expand market towards the east coast viewers. In todays world, that plays a BIG part. Kentucky could, but they are a weakling in football most years. OSU doesn't need it for recruiting. They can probably recruit Kentucky better than Kentucky can. Speaking of Kentucky...I thought Louisville would have been a nice addition to the Big 10.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers. When the heck has Rutgers done anything, but I get it, the Big 10 wanted to expand market towards the east coast viewers. In todays world, that plays a BIG part. Kentucky could, but they are a weakling in football most years. OSU doesn't need it for recruiting. They can probably recruit Kentucky better than Kentucky can. Speaking of Kentucky...I thought Louisville would have been a nice addition to the Big 10.
I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers. When the heck has Rutgers done anything, but I get it, the Big 10 wanted to expand market towards the east coast viewers. In todays world, that plays a BIG part. Kentucky could, but they are a weakling in football most years. OSU doesn't need it for recruiting. They can probably recruit Kentucky better than Kentucky can. Speaking of Kentucky...I thought Louisville would have been a nice addition to the Big 10.
Oh, yea. The Big Ten wanted that NY market. And the same for Maryland joining....getting the DC/Baltimore market. Getting large markets is the thing. I guess if they want to expand more they should get Boston College to join, and maybe Connecticut then they would have that large market as well, more so than Louisville.
I wonder how much of the Pittsburgh market they have. While there is Pitt in the ACC....Penn St. is pretty big in Pittsburgh as well. Fair to say.
And, they obviously have the Cleveland, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Twin Cities , Indianapolis markets as well. And Cincinnati too.
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Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers. When the heck has Rutgers done anything, but I get it, the Big 10 wanted to expand market towards the east coast viewers. In todays world, that plays a BIG part. Kentucky could, but they are a weakling in football most years. OSU doesn't need it for recruiting. They can probably recruit Kentucky better than Kentucky can. Speaking of Kentucky...I thought Louisville would have been a nice addition to the Big 10.
I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers.
West Virginia is too lenient in who they allow in their program, and the Big Ten didn't want them dragging down their academic record.
Apparently if they spot you the C and the A, and you can spell cat, you are capable of being a Mountaineer football player.
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I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers.
West Virginia is too lenient in who they allow in their program, and the Big Ten didn't want them dragging down their academic record.
Apparently if they spot you the C and the A, and you can spell cat, you are capable of being a Mountaineer football player.
West Virginia is too lenient in who they allow in their program, and the Big Ten didn't want them dragging down their academic record.
Apparently if they spot you the C and the A, and you can spell cat, you are capable of being a Mountaineer football player.
That is true. I have checked that out and WVa. is not in the same academic league as the Big Ten schools.
But, Ohio State could still play them on occasion in a non-conf. game.
I guess they did actually play once a couple of decades ago:
Ohio State vs West Virginia Series
- Team Index
- Ohio State Links:
- Ohio State Home
- Bowl History
Total Meetings Won Lost Tied Percentage 6 5 1 0 0.833 Ohio State Opponents RB Proj. Result Season Date CS AP RB W L T Site CS AP RB Opponent W L T PJ Pt PF PA Ftn 1998 Sep 5 1 9 0 0 0 A 11 62 West Virginia 0 0 0 F 15 W 34 17 1987 Sep 12 5 5 12 0 0 0 H 50 West Virginia 1 0 0 F 16 W 24 3 1903 Oct 31 60 5 1 0 H 58 West Virginia 5 0 0 F 3 W 34 6 1902 Oct 11 48 2 0 0 H 57 West Virginia 2 0 0 F 6 W 30 0 1900 Nov 3 42 5 0 0 H 55 West Virginia 2 1 0 F 8 W 27 0 1897 Nov 6 65 1 4 1 A 63 West Virginia 3 3 1 U -4 L 0 24 * -
Teams that I always thought that Ohio State could have natural rivalries with:
1. Michigan obviously
2. Penn State, neighboring states and now do play every year
3. Indiana, neighboring states. Play every year, but Indiana could just never compete....but it seems they are getting much better
4. West Virginia. Neighboring state....and about the same distance as UM is from Columbus., but they never play. Only about 10 miles further than Ann Arbor.
5. Kentucky. Neighboring state.....Also, Lexington KY is a few miles closer to Columbus than Ann Arbor but they are focused to the south, not the north.
6. Ohio University. An obvious natural rivalry, but they just don't play on the same level. OU is more like a "little brother" that they occasionally beat up on.
7. Notre Dame. Probably the top two programs in the Midwest. But they almost never play. I think they played once in like 1935 and again a couple of times in the 90s. They may have also played a bowl game. I believe Woody Hayes was actually a fairly big fan of ND, and he said that he did not want the fans of either..or both schools to have to choose between them.
You are missing one really obvious opponent - Cincinnati.
You are missing one really obvious opponent - Cincinnati.
Here is data on that. They have played more often than you think:
Ohio State vs Cincinnati Series
- Team Index
- Ohio State Links:
- Ohio State Home
- Bowl History
Total Meetings Won Lost Tied Percentage 16 14 2 0 0.875 Ohio State Opponents RB Proj. Result Season Date CS AP RB W L T Site CS AP RB Opponent W L T PJ Pt PF PA Ftn 2019 Sep 7 5 5 6 1 0 0 H 24 Cincinnati 1 0 0 F 7 W 42 0 2014 Sep 27 20 22 17 2 1 0 H 46 Cincinnati 2 0 0 F 9 W 50 28 2006 Sep 16 1 1 1 2 0 0 H 62 Cincinnati 1 1 0 F 25 W 37 7 2004 Sep 4 9 9 5 0 0 0 H 72 Cincinnati 0 0 0 F 25 W 27 6 2002 Sep 21 6 6 11 3 0 0 A 78 Cincinnati 1 1 0 F 17 W 23 19 1999 Sep 25 10 12 7 2 1 0 H 87 Cincinnati 2 1 0 F 28 W 34 20 1931 Oct 3 12 0 0 0 H Cincinnati F 29 W 67 6 1919 Oct 11 14 1 0 0 H Cincinnati F 32 W 46 0 1912 Oct 26 70 2 1 0 H Cincinnati F 11 W 47 7 * 1911 Nov 30 77 4 3 2 A Cincinnati U -2 W 11 6 1900 Oct 13 47 2 0 0 A Cincinnati F 13 W 29 0 1897 Nov 13 65 1 5 1 A Cincinnati U -12 L 0 24 * 1896 Oct 10 53 1 0 0 A Cincinnati F 7 L 6 8 1895 Nov 9 58 1 2 2 A Cincinnati U -4 W 4 0 1894 Nov 17 61 3 5 0 A Cincinnati U -20 W 6 4 1893 Nov 18 57 2 4 0 H Cincinnati U -6 W 38 -
What about Iowa State?
There was a time where I would have recommended Syracuse, but their football program is nowhere to be found for quite a while now.
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Note on previous two posts: OSU lost to both West Virginia and Cincinnati the same year: 1897. The LAST time they lost to either!
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What about Iowa State?
There was a time where I would have recommended Syracuse, but their football program is nowhere to be found for quite a while now.
What about Iowa State?
They can blow me. Really. (They are called The Cyclones).
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I always though WV would have been a better choice to join the Big 10 over Rutgers. When the heck has Rutgers done anything, but I get it, the Big 10 wanted to expand market towards the east coast viewers. In todays world, that plays a BIG part. Kentucky could, but they are a weakling in football most years. OSU doesn't need it for recruiting. They can probably recruit Kentucky better than Kentucky can. Speaking of Kentucky...I thought Louisville would have been a nice addition to the Big 10.
Oh, yea. The Big Ten wanted that NY market. And the same for Maryland joining....getting the DC/Baltimore market. Getting large markets is the thing. I guess if they want to expand more they should get Boston College to join, and maybe Connecticut then they would have that large market as well, more so than Louisville.
I wonder how much of the Pittsburgh market they have. While there is Pitt in the ACC....Penn St. is pretty big in Pittsburgh as well. Fair to say.
And, they obviously have the Cleveland, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Twin Cities , Indianapolis markets as well. And Cincinnati too.
Oh, yea. The Big Ten wanted that NY market. And the same for Maryland joining....getting the DC/Baltimore market. Getting large markets is the thing. I guess if they want to expand more they should get Boston College to join, and maybe Connecticut then they would have that large market as well, more so than Louisville.
I wonder how much of the Pittsburgh market they have. While there is Pitt in the ACC....Penn St. is pretty big in Pittsburgh as well. Fair to say.
And, they obviously have the Cleveland, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Twin Cities , Indianapolis markets as well. And Cincinnati too.
Sure, but that doesn't do anything for rivalry. Plus, I am not sure the NY market is all that big on any one team. On a recent trip to NYC my wife and I spotted a Irish Pub and decided to eat there for lunch. It was a Auburn bar. We didn't know that going in, but we knew it once we walked in the door. My point is it is a city of 7 million people who root for 200 different teams. The Big Ten could bring in Columbia if academic standing is as important as Dutch thinks, but it wouldn't do much for TV ratings.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Oh, yea. The Big Ten wanted that NY market. And the same for Maryland joining....getting the DC/Baltimore market. Getting large markets is the thing. I guess if they want to expand more they should get Boston College to join, and maybe Connecticut then they would have that large market as well, more so than Louisville.
I wonder how much of the Pittsburgh market they have. While there is Pitt in the ACC....Penn St. is pretty big in Pittsburgh as well. Fair to say.
And, they obviously have the Cleveland, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Twin Cities , Indianapolis markets as well. And Cincinnati too.
Sure, but that doesn't do anything for rivalry. Plus, I am not sure the NY market is all that big on any one team. On a recent trip to NYC my wife and I spotted a Irish Pub and decided to eat there for lunch. It was a Auburn bar. We didn't know that going in, but we knew it once we walked in the door. My point is it is a city of 7 million people who root for 200 different teams. The Big Ten could bring in Columbia if academic standing is as important as Dutch thinks, but it wouldn't do much for TV ratings.
Sure, but that doesn't do anything for rivalry. Plus, I am not sure the NY market is all that big on any one team. On a recent trip to NYC my wife and I spotted a Irish Pub and decided to eat there for lunch. It was a Auburn bar. We didn't know that going in, but we knew it once we walked in the door. My point is it is a city of 7 million people who root for 200 different teams. The Big Ten could bring in Columbia if academic standing is as important as Dutch thinks, but it wouldn't do much for TV ratings.
Well, yea, I wasn't even thinking about rivalries in my above comments....just about $$$. And I hear what you say about NYC. The team that more people there follow more than anyone is probably Notre Dame...the whole Subway alumni. Still, having the most local FBS team there in that market in your conference must help. I can only assume the Big Ten has data on how Rutgers could help them in that market.....to the point that they decided to bring them into the fold.
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Oh, yea. The Big Ten wanted that NY market. And the same for Maryland joining....getting the DC/Baltimore market. Getting large markets is the thing. I guess if they want to expand more they should get Boston College to join, and maybe Connecticut then they would have that large market as well, more so than Louisville.
I wonder how much of the Pittsburgh market they have. While there is Pitt in the ACC....Penn St. is pretty big in Pittsburgh as well. Fair to say.
And, they obviously have the Cleveland, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Twin Cities , Indianapolis markets as well. And Cincinnati too.
Sure, but that doesn't do anything for rivalry. Plus, I am not sure the NY market is all that big on any one team. On a recent trip to NYC my wife and I spotted a Irish Pub and decided to eat there for lunch. It was a Auburn bar. We didn't know that going in, but we knew it once we walked in the door. My point is it is a city of 7 million people who root for 200 different teams. The Big Ten could bring in Columbia if academic standing is as important as Dutch thinks, but it wouldn't do much for TV ratings.
The Big Ten could bring in Columbia if academic standing is as important as Dutch thinks, but it wouldn't do much for TV ratings
I'm sorry your idea of having West Virginia enter the Big Ten was already considered years ago, and the Big Ten dismissed it because of WVU's academic record.
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Interesting that we have so many divergent opinions on the best college rivalry (behind OSU/Mich). So far we have:
Alabama/Auburn
Notre Dame/USC
Texas/Oklahoma
Army/Navy
Any more out there:
And Russ(Balpeen) ....what is up with the Florida trilogy rivalries? Have they diminished somewhat? (who is Florida's biggest rival? FSU or Georgia?....I don't think they ever play Miami, do they?
Interesting that we have so many divergent opinions on the best college rivalry (behind OSU/Mich). So far we have:
Alabama/Auburn
Notre Dame/USC
Texas/Oklahoma
Army/Navy
Any more out there:
And Russ(Balpeen) ....what is up with the Florida trilogy rivalries? Have they diminished somewhat? (who is Florida's biggest rival? FSU or Georgia?....I don't think they ever play Miami, do they?
oregon/ oregon state one of the longest which the Beavers won on friday fuck the ducks
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Interesting that we have so many divergent opinions on the best college rivalry (behind OSU/Mich). So far we have:
Alabama/Auburn
Notre Dame/USC
Texas/Oklahoma
Army/Navy
Any more out there:
And Russ(Balpeen) ....what is up with the Florida trilogy rivalries? Have they diminished somewhat? (who is Florida's biggest rival? FSU or Georgia?....I don't think they ever play Miami, do they?
oregon/ oregon state one of the longest which the Beavers won on friday fuck the ducks
oregon/ oregon state one of the longest which the Beavers won on friday fuck the ducks
A nice little local rivalry. Not a major one on the national state. It is superseded even in the Pac 12 by USC/UCLA, Stanford/Cal. Probably on a par with Wash/Wash. St. or Ariz./Ariz. State.
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A nice little local rivalry. Not a major one on the national state. It is superseded even in the Pac 12 by USC/UCLA, Stanford/Cal. Probably on a par with Wash/Wash. St. or Ariz./Ariz. State.
and those are fun games to watch
have you watched any pac 12 games ? god the officials in that league suck
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