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  • C ClevelandRocks

    Well whoever starts against detroit will be at a slight disadvantage because detroit will know who to gameplan for. Hope the oline bullies smith a little bit though

    @clevelandrocks said:

    Well whoever starts against detroit will be at a slight disadvantage because detroit will know who to gameplan for. Hope the oline bullies smith a little bit though

    If you consider the above statement to be true... The QB who starts and plays well vs Detoit would then have a big advantage then right? Not sure I buy that myself...

  • Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Wake me when we know who starts vs Minn.

    😎

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
  • C ClevelandRocks

    Well whoever starts against detroit will be at a slight disadvantage because detroit will know who to gameplan for. Hope the oline bullies smith a little bit though

    @clevelandrocks said:

    Well whoever starts against detroit will be at a slight disadvantage because detroit will know who to gameplan for. Hope the oline bullies smith a little bit though

    Teams don't do much gameplanning in preseason. Teams are working on their stuff and don't really care much about who is going to play QB.

    Just a FYI

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • I wonder what the statistics are for whoever the qb is if they start the first preseason game are the starters during the regular season. Anyone in here know?

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @clevelandrocks said:

    Well whoever starts against detroit will be at a slight disadvantage because detroit will know who to gameplan for. Hope the oline bullies smith a little bit though

    Teams don't do much gameplanning in preseason. Teams are working on their stuff and don't really care much about who is going to play QB.

    Just a FYI

    @ballpeen said:

    Teams don't do much gameplanning in preseason. Teams are working on their stuff and don't really care much about who is going to play QB.

    Just a FYI

    That's why I said slight advantage because they don't do much. But if it didn't matter at all you have to wonder why mangini is waiting until the last possible second

  • C ClevelandRocks

    @ballpeen said:

    Teams don't do much gameplanning in preseason. Teams are working on their stuff and don't really care much about who is going to play QB.

    Just a FYI

    That's why I said slight advantage because they don't do much. But if it didn't matter at all you have to wonder why mangini is waiting until the last possible second

    @clevelandrocks said:

    That's why I said slight advantage because they don't do much. But if it didn't matter at all you have to wonder why mangini is waiting until the last possible second

    Probably to prevent all the second guessing by the media and the fans.

  • Honestly - does it really matter who stars vs the Pack? In the FIRST preseason game?

    CHANGE IS GOOD
  • S Squintz

    Honestly - does it really matter who stars vs the Pack? In the FIRST preseason game?

    @squintz said:

    Honestly - does it really matter who stars vs the Pack? In the FIRST preseason game?

    Stars? Yes.

    Starts? No.

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
  • O osusev

    I wonder what the statistics are for whoever the qb is if they start the first preseason game are the starters during the regular season. Anyone in here know?

    @osusev said:

    I wonder what the statistics are for whoever the qb is if they start the first preseason game are the starters during the regular season. Anyone in here know?

    It would be extremely high, but that doesn't apply in our case. Most teams don't have an outright competition at QB. Whoever starts at GB does not have an advantage, because the other guy will start against the Lions. As many have stated, Pre-Game 3 will provide the answers.

  • I disagree I think the coaching staff is leaning already in one specific direction. I think whoever that guy is unless he is a disaster in preseason or the other guy is that much better the coaching staff is leaning one way already.

  • D dawgpound3

    @shepwrite said:

    DA has an advantage? Since when?

    Quinn played better in the only scrimmage. Practice has been a wash, as every outlet reports over and over and over. The only comments from Mangini is that there is no separation between the two guys.

    Scrimmage doesn't mean anything. The defense knew the hand signals for christ's sakes. How can you say that? Wait and judge in the preseason games.

    @dawgpound3 said:

    Scrimmage doesn't mean anything. The defense knew the hand signals for christ's sakes. How can you say that? Wait and judge in the preseason games.

    DA already came out in the media and said that was a joke, never happened.

    Quinn looks like a quarterback, DA looks like a doofus.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
    chocoC 1 Reply

  • pl4tinum "looks" matter so much..... well I suppose maybe it does to ahem some people who are in to that sort of thing... lol

  • to quote inspecta "brady is so effin dreamy"....its true

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  • P pl4tinum

    @dawgpound3 said:

    Scrimmage doesn't mean anything. The defense knew the hand signals for christ's sakes. How can you say that? Wait and judge in the preseason games.

    DA already came out in the media and said that was a joke, never happened.

    Quinn looks like a quarterback, DA looks like a doofus.

    @pl4tinum said:

    DA already came out in the media and said that was a joke, never happened.

    Quinn looks like a quarterback, DA looks like a doofus.

    guess that depends where you are observing from....

    where i sit, quinn looks like a child among boys, and DA looks like a doofus.

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  • D dawgpound3

    @shepwrite said:

    DA has an advantage? Since when?

    Quinn played better in the only scrimmage. Practice has been a wash, as every outlet reports over and over and over. The only comments from Mangini is that there is no separation between the two guys.

    Scrimmage doesn't mean anything. The defense knew the hand signals for christ's sakes. How can you say that? Wait and judge in the preseason games.

    @dawgpound3 said:

    Scrimmage doesn't mean anything. The defense knew the hand signals for christ's sakes. How can you say that? Wait and judge in the preseason games.

    Um, no the D didn't. That story has already been debunked. Including being debunked by DA himself.

  • As far as who starts for at GB and against the Lions, I think a little differently. We know Brady has home support and the environment in Cleveland will be in favor of him. The opposite is true about DA. The home crowd will be more hostile toward him than anywhere else. DA has had trouble dealing with pressure. Make him prove he can handle it at home! Make Brady play on the road without the major fan support. It's preseason, yes I know, but every guy on that team wants to win! Nobody wants to lose, even in preseason! Playing DA on the road is not going to give you a barometer of how he will handle pressure as well as him playing in Cleveland with Brady on the sideline.

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  • Either way, both QB's are going to play in both games. What happens if BQ looks good against the one's in Green Bay but bad against the two's against Detroit? Same goes for DA. I think this whole derby is a sham to begin with. BQ was the QB Mangini was going with from day one. He's got miles of film on DA, he knows how he plays in games, he knows a lot more about him than any of us. He's got a few games with BQ, and anyone with a pair of eyes could see BQ looked like a franchise QB in those games, even if he didn't light it up. Even Bernie the magnificent had bad games, and was benched in his rookie year, but everyone knew he was a franchise QB.

  • D Dave

    Either way, both QB's are going to play in both games. What happens if BQ looks good against the one's in Green Bay but bad against the two's against Detroit? Same goes for DA. I think this whole derby is a sham to begin with. BQ was the QB Mangini was going with from day one. He's got miles of film on DA, he knows how he plays in games, he knows a lot more about him than any of us. He's got a few games with BQ, and anyone with a pair of eyes could see BQ looked like a franchise QB in those games, even if he didn't light it up. Even Bernie the magnificent had bad games, and was benched in his rookie year, but everyone knew he was a franchise QB.

    @dave said:

    Either way, both QB's are going to play in both games. What happens if BQ looks good against the one's in Green Bay but bad against the two's against Detroit? Same goes for DA. I think this whole derby is a sham to begin with. BQ was the QB Mangini was going with from day one. He's got miles of film on DA, he knows how he plays in games, he knows a lot more about him than any of us. He's got a few games with BQ, and anyone with a pair of eyes could see BQ looked like a franchise QB in those games, even if he didn't light it up. Even Bernie the magnificent had bad games, and was benched in his rookie year, but everyone knew he was a franchise QB.

    100% agreed! I think Brady is the starter unless he completely implodes over the next 2 weeks!

  • chocoC choco

    @pl4tinum said:

    DA already came out in the media and said that was a joke, never happened.

    Quinn looks like a quarterback, DA looks like a doofus.

    guess that depends where you are observing from....

    where i sit, quinn looks like a child among boys, and DA looks like a doofus.

    @choco said:

    guess that depends where you are observing from....

    where i sit, quinn looks like a child among boys, and DA looks like a doofus.

    well, boys ARE children. so quinn fits right in.

    glad we agree on the doofus.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8

  • Seriously, you really think that Mangini has already decided who his starter is and just wants to split the reps and time with the starters as some sort of ploy. I am sure that if I was taking over as a coach and I knew who my starting QB was going to be that I would NOT want that QB to get as much work as possible with the first team that happens to have three new receivers. I am mean it makes much more sense to have neither QB get all the reps with the new receivers in a new offense just so the team can try and pull the wool over the eyes of another team.

    I mean it is only logical to know who your QB is but to NOT have him get the work in and develope with his new receiving corp. So of course you must be right and the decision has already been made. The preseason is all just for posturing so the Browns can make a trade of a QB, isn't it? I mean the preseason could not be to get the starting QB all the work in that he can. It can't be so that the starting QB will get to know his starting squad and maximize the chemistry. It MUST be just so the mangenius who is NOT the GM can try and up the trade value of the second string QB.

    Makes total sense. Makes way more sense than the coach really has not decided who can run his offense better and give the Browns the best chance to win. I mean by all reports one of the QBs is clearly standing above the other.

    Some of you make me laugh 😆

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