VICK WITH EAGLES
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.The guy has NEVER had accuracy and doesn't know what his WRs are for....he's a runner first, QB 2nd
The guy has NEVER had accuracy and doesn't know what his WRs are for....he's a runner first, QB 2nd
Doesnt mean he cant change, I mean mcnabb was a bit of a runner himself.
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.
mz. said:
Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.Badly played, mz the pussy, given the fact that the Eagles have been a playoff team for several years--even though that is probably as much a tribute to Childress and Jim Johnson as it is to Reid.
A far better snarky comment would have been to point out that if anyone has shown the ability to keep young men out of trouble, it's Andy Reid.
Dennis
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So......
Philadelphia you say? Now there's an UNDERSTANDING fanbase. This is gonna be like an extended Saturday Night Live show. You just know some squid in charge of the stadium music is gonna amp up that tune "Who Let the Dawgs Out" as Michael Vick takes the field.
If they booed McNabb on draft day - what do you suppose was the most popular word in Philly today?
- Tom F.
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The dog killer is going to the Eagles, which is a heck of a lot better than him coming to the Steelers. There was just no way that was going to happen. The Rooneys aren't into convicted felons. Their team doesn't need the sort of distraction that Vick would cause.
Philadelphia can have Vick. It deserves him.
The only regret? Vick didn't sign with Cleveland.
This from Ron Cook with the Pittsburgh Post Gazette-
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The dog killer is going to the Eagles, which is a heck of a lot better than him coming to the Steelers. There was just no way that was going to happen. The Rooneys aren't into convicted felons. Their team doesn't need the sort of distraction that Vick would cause.
Philadelphia can have Vick. It deserves him.
The only regret? Vick didn't sign with Cleveland.
This from Ron Cook with the Pittsburgh Post Gazette-
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.
mz. said:
Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.Except Romeo Crennel never took his team to the Superbowl as a head coach. Nor were his teams ever even REMOTELY close to being the perennial division contenders/playoff teams that the Eagles have been.
Bad comparison.
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@hiwaygal said:
Check this out:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200373391871
Genius.
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LOL....more than capable replacement? What the hell has Vick ever accomplished as a QB? He was never a real QB and his legs aren't going to serve him as well as he gets older and has to deal with the Philly weather late in the season.
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.
Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.Didn't Dan Reeves groom Elway?
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
Well the way I see it he never really had anyone teach him the right way, and with his skill set there is no one better then Andy Reid.Didn't Dan Reeves groom Elway?
Didn't Dan Reeves groom Elway?
Reeves was only with Vick for two years, I really don't think thats enough time to change someones QB instincts.
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fair enough.
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@hiwaygal said:
Check this out:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200373391871
Thanks hiwaygal. That's an interesting find.
Interesting: Putting somebody else's money where your mouth and your fan allegiance is. (Like Vick is the only one on the Eagles roster. NOT.)
Looks like a fair weather fan. I hope the S.P.C.A. actually does get the proceeds. It would make more sense for the bidders to send money directly to the S.P.C.A.
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mz. said:
Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.Except Romeo Crennel never took his team to the Superbowl as a head coach. Nor were his teams ever even REMOTELY close to being the perennial division contenders/playoff teams that the Eagles have been.
Bad comparison.
Except Romeo Crennel never took his team to the Superbowl as a head coach. Nor were his teams ever even REMOTELY close to being the perennial division contenders/playoff teams that the Eagles have been.
Bad comparison.
Good comparison, nobuo.
Compare the rosters he had to the rosters Crennel had. Then ask a FAN of the team.
Watch an Eagles game. Andy Reid's game management and playcalling speak for themselves.
Remember this game from last year?
Eagles coach Andy Reid running out of time
by Nick Fierro
Monday September 29, 2008, 1:45 AM
In a game the Eagles should have won five times over, yet another case was made for the argument that head coach Andy Reid will never lead this team to the promised land.
If the evidence wasn't overwhelming already, there should be no dispute now whatsoever.
This is not to say the coach, who is in his 10th season, can't learn from the mistakes he keeps making in key games and finally turn it around and win a Super Bowl. Reid certainly is capable of doing that.
The problem is time. How much longer will owner Jeff Lurie and president Joe Banner, who both are way more competitive than most Eagles fans know or appreciate, stick with a coach who keeps failing the same way in the same key spots in games that either decide who moves on in the playoffs or decide who gets there or receives homefield advantage.
How will they be able to justify keeping Reid around for another year if the Eagles, who now are dead last in the NFC East, again finish this season in last place for the third time in the past four years?
The guess is not very long, and it sure doesn't look like Reid is ready to win it all this year.
Granted, the Eagles' brutal 24-20 loss to the Chicago Bears late last night wasn't all the coaching staff's fault. Rookie DeSean Jackson muffed a punt return that basically gave the Bears a touchdown and later turned the wrong way (presumably) on a timing route, resulting in an interception that knocked running back Correll Buckhalter out of a significant portion of the game after he made the tackle on the runback.
Also, Bears quarterback Kyle Orton's touchdown pass to explosive wide receiver Devin Hester over Asante Samuel in the end zone was simply perfect -- a pass in which you just have to tip your hat and move on. These things happen from time to time in the NFL, and there's not a darn thing any great defense or coach can do to stop them.
But the failure to punch it in from the 1-yard line late in the game had Reid's faulty fingerprints all over it. This is where the Eagles had a chance to overcome all the mistakes they made earlier and beat an inferior team they're supposed to beat no matter what. It's where true championship teams come through nine out of 10 times, a ratio Reid seems doomed to never achieve unless he never makes another mistake for the rest of his career and coaches until he's something like Joe Paterno's age.
His explanation for not putting the ball in quarterback Donovan McNabb's hands -- he didn't want to put McNabb, who already was hurting from a chest contusion suffered the week before, at further risk -- just didn't cut it.
The fact is that football is an extremely simple game when you have fourth-and-goal at the 1 with a 6-foot-2 Division I basketball player under center and an offensive line that is considered by every non-partisan observer in the game to be among the league's best in front of him. From where he was when he took the snap, McNabb barely would have had to jump while extending his hands forward with the football to break the plane of the goal line.
Instead, he retreated to hand off to the 29-year-old Buckhalter, who earlier had been forced out of the game with the injury from the tackle he made. Buckhalter was collared by defensive end Alex Brown, who came around the back side unmolested to halt Buckhalter's progress long enough for the pile to stabilize and keep him from getting in on a second effort.
Ballgame.
Here's the thing: The play call might not have even been that bad under more dire circumstances, such as not having any timeouts remaining. But this wasn't the case.
Reid had a chance to think this thing through during a stoppage that lasted around as long as the 2004-05 NHL lockout.
Then he came up with the running play to Buckhalter that spoiled another outstanding, if imperfect defensive effort that netted four turnovers.
In the past, when the Eagles had virtually no competition from within the division while on their way to four straight NFC East crowns from 2001 through 2004, they might have been able to get away with a brutal loss like this.
Not anymore.
Look for this result to play a huge role in the playoff picture next January.
via here.
There's plenty more where that came from.
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Damn it, I just tried to order a #7 Ron Mexico Eagles jersey but the NFL web site blocked it. However, I may have come into a large quantity of jerseys that were ordered for a Mexican soccer team, the Herpecitos Perros. They are all, coincidentally, in the same green that the Eagles wear and all say "Mexico" on the back - and unfortunately, due to an error, they all are the number 7, so I picked them up for mere pesos....maybe I'll put them on ebay. Hope Vick doesn't want a cut.
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mz. said:
Andy Reid is a "good teacher?" Ask any Eagle fan how they feel about him. He's like a white Romeo Crennel.Badly played, mz the pussy, given the fact that the Eagles have been a playoff team for several years--even though that is probably as much a tribute to Childress and Jim Johnson as it is to Reid.
A far better snarky comment would have been to point out that if anyone has shown the ability to keep young men out of trouble, it's Andy Reid.
Dennis
Badly played, mz the pussy, given the fact that the Eagles have been a playoff team for several years--even though that is probably as much a tribute to Childress and Jim Johnson as it is to Reid.
A far better snarky comment would have been to point out that if anyone has shown the ability to keep young men out of trouble, it's Andy Reid.
Dennis
I agree Dennis. If we weren't rejoining the NFL in 1999, Philly had the worst record in 1998 meaning they should have drafted first. We went first and they went next and selected the heavily booed Donovan McNabb. Philly fans wanted the same Ricky Williams that would eventually choose a marijuana sebatical over football.
Long story short, Reid joined Philly's worst runned organization prior to that 99 draft and they've appeared in 5 NFC Championships since then. That's pretty freakin good leadership from the Head Coach and his very first draft pick. Furthermore, it's not like that's ever a weak division either.
- Tom F.
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