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STEELER WEEK..... v2.0 ..... and this one is in 2021!

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  • @tour2ma said:

    Back at ya, Vag... but sure hope your time estimate is pessimistic.

    BTW... what was your original, chosen screen-name?

    We aren't going to be beyond this in 6 months.  I see the stupidity every single day as a business owner really linked into my community. My original screen name was snatch98.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @vagitron said:

    My original screen name was snatch98

    lmao...

    So the one bestowed by Z isn't all that different. 😉

  • @vagitron said:

    No one is going to try and "bait" Myles Garrett.  You are normally pretty level headed, get a grip.  Why would anyone want to bait that? for what gain? to help ruin someones career? 

    I'm not talking about goading him into ripping off their helmet, etc.

    But to put, as you said, one of our "best players" off his game? Of course they will.

    Give me a little credit...

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm not talking about goading him into ripping off their helmet, etc.

    But to put, as you said, one of our "best players" off his game? Of course they will.

    Give me a little credit...

    I don't think anyone on the Steelers give a single shit about Myles Garrett anymore. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    I'm not talking about goading him into ripping off their helmet, etc.

    But to put, as you said, one of our "best players" off his game? Of course they will.

    Give me a little credit...

    I don't think anyone on the Steelers give a single shit about Myles Garrett anymore. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @vagitron said:

    I don't think anyone on the Steelers give a single shit about Myles Garrett anymore. 

    I don't think Myles Garrett give a shit about anyone on the Steelers anymore. 

  • @vagitron said:

    My original screen name was snatch98

    lmao...

    So the one bestowed by Z isn't all that different. 😉

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by Vagitron

    @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    So the one bestowed by Z isn't all that different. 😉

    At the time I used that screen name on another message board.  I just reused it here but Snatch is from the movie and 98 was for my Mustang which i still own but it's in storage.  He or whomever changed my name didn't change it from that but instead the name i used after when i couldnt figure out my login for snatch.  I posted under Rorbotron which then became Vagitron.  I couldn't give a single shit what my name is here other than the fact that it labels me as a troll, something i don't do.  Here we are.....

  • @vagitron said:

    I don't think anyone on the Steelers give a single shit about Myles Garrett anymore. 

    I don't think Myles Garrett give a shit about anyone on the Steelers anymore. 

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by Vagitron

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't think Myles Garrett give a shit about anyone on the Steelers anymore. 

    What's your point gipper? do you have a point? or are we just going to talk in circles again? You are gonna get a timeout if you aren't careful. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma

    Friday Practice Reports are up.

    Big news for us includes Harrison's upgrade and Landry's return.

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    Only one new name for PTG as Johnson got the day off. Expect him to play.

    After practicing Thur Heyward rested Fri. Could be a coin flip Sunday, but I still think he'll sit.

    Watt and Pouncey continue to be heading to te bench Sunday.

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  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc

    vag loves to dish it out, but he can't take it - typical dishonest squealer squid sombeitch.

    so, Clemson had a player kicked out of the game for targeting, and he's done it before.

    I figured right then, his name was Skalski.

    Clemson LB James Skalski was ejected from CFP game, and ...

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/01/clemson-lb-james...

    15 hours ago · Clemson's James Skalski delivered a brutal hit to Ohio State QB Justin Fields. ... the star linebacker was kicked out of the game for targeting. ... #3 Ohio State vs. #2 Clemson live stream, TV

    ********************************************

    right then and there, I said "yep. The squealers will draft him - that is what they do" That's how they got  troy pollywannacheapshotyou, etc....drafted em because that is what they showed in college. In James Harrison';s case, he was in trouble in high school bad enough he didn't get a scholarship anywhere. So, he went with Kent State, with no scholarship there either ..at least when he got there... He was a walk on. But.. he didn't get drafted into the NFL, either. UDFA. But cheapshots made him famous, it is the steeler way. Like Hines Ward - they had to make a "Hines Ward rule" to make  blind side cheapshots illegal. It's the squealer way.

    NOTE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hines_Ward

    In a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players in 2009, he was voted the "dirtiest player in the NFL."[24]

    etc etc.

    Squealer Week. The squealers coaches teach this - they think it's "their kind of football" - here is a pittsbooger squealer training camp video: (video taken during a drought - the three rivers were way, way down)

  • vag loves to dish it out, but he can't take it - typical dishonest squealer squid sombeitch.

    so, Clemson had a player kicked out of the game for targeting, and he's done it before.

    I figured right then, his name was Skalski.

    Clemson LB James Skalski was ejected from CFP game, and ...

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/01/clemson-lb-james...

    15 hours ago · Clemson's James Skalski delivered a brutal hit to Ohio State QB Justin Fields. ... the star linebacker was kicked out of the game for targeting. ... #3 Ohio State vs. #2 Clemson live stream, TV

    ********************************************

    right then and there, I said "yep. The squealers will draft him - that is what they do" That's how they got  troy pollywannacheapshotyou, etc....drafted em because that is what they showed in college. In James Harrison';s case, he was in trouble in high school bad enough he didn't get a scholarship anywhere. So, he went with Kent State, with no scholarship there either ..at least when he got there... He was a walk on. But.. he didn't get drafted into the NFL, either. UDFA. But cheapshots made him famous, it is the steeler way. Like Hines Ward - they had to make a "Hines Ward rule" to make  blind side cheapshots illegal. It's the squealer way.

    NOTE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hines_Ward

    In a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players in 2009, he was voted the "dirtiest player in the NFL."[24]

    etc etc.

    Squealer Week. The squealers coaches teach this - they think it's "their kind of football" - here is a pittsbooger squealer training camp video: (video taken during a drought - the three rivers were way, way down)

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    vag loves to dish it out, but he can't take it - typical dishonest squealer squid sombeitch.

    so, Clemson had a player kicked out of the game for targeting, and he's done it before.

    I figured right then, his name was Skalski.

    Clemson LB James Skalski was ejected from CFP game, and ...

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/01/clemson-lb-james...

    15 hours ago · Clemson's James Skalski delivered a brutal hit to Ohio State QB Justin Fields. ... the star linebacker was kicked out of the game for targeting. ... #3 Ohio State vs. #2 Clemson live stream, TV

    ********************************************

    right then and there, I said "yep. The squealers will draft him - that is what they do" That's how they got  troy pollywannacheapshotyou, etc....drafted em because that is what they showed in college. In James Harrison';s case, he was in trouble in high school bad enough he didn't get a scholarship anywhere. So, he went with Kent State, with no scholarship there either ..at least when he got there... He was a walk on. But.. he didn't get drafted into the NFL, either. UDFA. But cheapshots made him famous, it is the steeler way. Like Hines Ward - they had to make a "Hines Ward rule" to make  blind side cheapshots illegal. It's the squealer way.

    NOTE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hines_Ward

    In a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players in 2009, he was voted the "dirtiest player in the NFL."[24]

    etc etc.

    Squealer Week. The squealers coaches teach this - they think it's "their kind of football" - here is a pittsbooger squealer training camp video: (video taken during a drought - the three rivers were way, way down)

    So do you and gipper just make shit up as you go or what? If I couldn't take your half assed digs do you think I would still be here?  Why do you and Gipper think you bother me? lol

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    @vagitron said:

    Oh and for the record that targeting call was HORRENDOUSLY bad.  Justin Fields SPUN into that hit which created the situation with the crown of the helmet.  It's a terrible rule that is poorly enforced and now that kid's senior season is tainted even tho Clemson got throttled.  The fact that you are in here trying to label it as dirty is all i need to see on the matter.  The NCAA is a horrid governing body and again the targeting rules need amended.  HORRIBLE CALL!

    and for the record my mother in law is a giant OSU fan, most of my extended family went to Ohio State and almost all of them have entire basements dedicated to OSU.  AGAIN HORRIBLE fucking call. 

    the replay CLEARLY shows him intentionally lowering and leading with helmet.

    PS = it wasn't his first time

  • @vagitron said:

    Oh and for the record that targeting call was HORRENDOUSLY bad.  Justin Fields SPUN into that hit which created the situation with the crown of the helmet.  It's a terrible rule that is poorly enforced and now that kid's senior season is tainted even tho Clemson got throttled.  The fact that you are in here trying to label it as dirty is all i need to see on the matter.  The NCAA is a horrid governing body and again the targeting rules need amended.  HORRIBLE CALL!

    and for the record my mother in law is a giant OSU fan, most of my extended family went to Ohio State and almost all of them have entire basements dedicated to OSU.  AGAIN HORRIBLE fucking call. 

    the replay CLEARLY shows him intentionally lowering and leading with helmet.

    PS = it wasn't his first time

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    the replay CLEARLY shows him intentionally lowering and leading with helmet.

    PS = it wasn't his first time

    Cal, when people say stuff like this to me it's obvious they've never played an organized sport at a high level.  Instant replay also changes how things are perceived.  it wasn't a dirty hit, fields spun into it otherwise he's getting hit in his side in a perfectly legal manner.  I guess people think these players should be able to manipulate space and time like they are in the matrix.  It's an absurd implementation of a rule that SHOULD have a discretionary angle to how it's enforced.  It's no different than a roughing the passer in the nfl when a defensive lineman for example is at the QB but he gets ride of the ball while the lineman is in the motion of making a tackle and a flag is thrown. It wasn't a dirty hit, it will never be a dirty hit and that kid shouldn't have been ejected.  Period. 

  • VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know if it was dirty....but it WAS illegal.  If you lower your head and hit someone with the crown of your helmet...it is "spearing"...or what they are now calling Targeting.  And it didn't matter if Fields spun. He did not spin "into" the hit,  he actually spun away from the hit.  If he had not spun, then he would have been  speared in the  gut or chest instead of the side or back. 

    https://247sports.com/Article/Jamie-Skalski-targeting-ejected-video-Justin-Fields-injury-ribs-touchdown-Ohio-State-Clemson-Sugar-Bowl-158268908/

    I know why he spun gipper. The spin however created a targeting call that should have never been called.  I don't blame fields for spinning, i do blame the terrible NCAA for how it was enforced and is enforced. 

  • VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    And I'm done in here on the matter. Cal is a dipshit and so are you gipper. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    the replay CLEARLY shows him intentionally lowering and leading with helmet.

    PS = it wasn't his first time

    Cal, when people say stuff like this to me it's obvious they've never played an organized sport at a high level.  Instant replay also changes how things are perceived.  it wasn't a dirty hit, fields spun into it otherwise he's getting hit in his side in a perfectly legal manner.  I guess people think these players should be able to manipulate space and time like they are in the matrix.  It's an absurd implementation of a rule that SHOULD have a discretionary angle to how it's enforced.  It's no different than a roughing the passer in the nfl when a defensive lineman for example is at the QB but he gets ride of the ball while the lineman is in the motion of making a tackle and a flag is thrown. It wasn't a dirty hit, it will never be a dirty hit and that kid shouldn't have been ejected.  Period. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc

    @vagitron said:

    Cal, when people say stuff like this to me it's obvious they've never played an organized sport at a high level.  Instant replay also changes how things are perceived.  it wasn't a dirty hit, fields spun into it otherwise he's getting hit in his side in a perfectly legal manner.  I guess people think these players should be able to manipulate space and time like they are in the matrix.  It's an absurd implementation of a rule that SHOULD have a discretionary angle to how it's enforced.  It's no different than a roughing the passer in the nfl when a defensive lineman for example is at the QB but he gets ride of the ball while the lineman is in the motion of making a tackle and a flag is thrown. It wasn't a dirty hit, it will never be a dirty hit and that kid shouldn't have been ejected.  Period. 

    oh, bs. It WAS a dangerous hit, and those are AGAINST the rules, and it calls for an immediate ejection.

    It doesn't matter that you played football - in this case, you are completely wrong. He intentionally led with his helmet as a weapon. That is wrong no matter what team did it.

    Did you lose money on a clemson would win bet or what? 

  • @vagitron said:

    Cal, when people say stuff like this to me it's obvious they've never played an organized sport at a high level.  Instant replay also changes how things are perceived.  it wasn't a dirty hit, fields spun into it otherwise he's getting hit in his side in a perfectly legal manner.  I guess people think these players should be able to manipulate space and time like they are in the matrix.  It's an absurd implementation of a rule that SHOULD have a discretionary angle to how it's enforced.  It's no different than a roughing the passer in the nfl when a defensive lineman for example is at the QB but he gets ride of the ball while the lineman is in the motion of making a tackle and a flag is thrown. It wasn't a dirty hit, it will never be a dirty hit and that kid shouldn't have been ejected.  Period. 

    oh, bs. It WAS a dangerous hit, and those are AGAINST the rules, and it calls for an immediate ejection.

    It doesn't matter that you played football - in this case, you are completely wrong. He intentionally led with his helmet as a weapon. That is wrong no matter what team did it.

    Did you lose money on a clemson would win bet or what? 

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    oh, bs. It WAS a dangerous hit, and those are AGAINST the rules, and it calls for an immediate ejection.

    It doesn't matter that you played football - in this case, you are completely wrong. He intentionally led with his helmet as a weapon. That is wrong no matter what team did it.

    Of course it matters. It allows someone to understand that things happen in seconds and I this case fields spun into the crown. If fields doesn't spin it's a text book form tackle. There is no other way to look at it either from a rational point of view. Homer glasses everywhere in here. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    https://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/2020/04/ncaa-panels-approves-tweak-to-targeting-penalty-replay-time-limits-players-can-wear-0-as-jersey-number.html

    College football players penalized for targeting and disqualified from games will be allowed to remain on the sideline following the calls rather than having to leave the field and go to the locker room.

    The modification to the targeting rule, which called for players to be ejected since 2013, was among a series of rules changes approved by the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel on Monday and announced Tuesday.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    oh, bs. It WAS a dangerous hit, and those are AGAINST the rules, and it calls for an immediate ejection.

    It doesn't matter that you played football - in this case, you are completely wrong. He intentionally led with his helmet as a weapon. That is wrong no matter what team did it.

    Of course it matters. It allows someone to understand that things happen in seconds and I this case fields spun into the crown. If fields doesn't spin it's a text book form tackle. There is no other way to look at it either from a rational point of view. Homer glasses everywhere in here. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    @vagitron said:

    Of course it matters. It allows someone to understand that things happen in seconds and I this case fields spun into the crown. If fields doesn't spin it's a text book form tackle. There is no other way to look at it either from a rational point of view. Homer glasses everywhere in here. 

    oh, why not shut up and look it up? You are completely wrong.

    In college football, targeting is defined as, “making forcible contact with the crown of the helmet,” or “making forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player”. Under current strictures, a targeting call leads to a 15-yard penalty and automatic ejection of the player that committed the targeting foul.

  • @vagitron said:

    Of course it matters. It allows someone to understand that things happen in seconds and I this case fields spun into the crown. If fields doesn't spin it's a text book form tackle. There is no other way to look at it either from a rational point of view. Homer glasses everywhere in here. 

    oh, why not shut up and look it up? You are completely wrong.

    In college football, targeting is defined as, “making forcible contact with the crown of the helmet,” or “making forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player”. Under current strictures, a targeting call leads to a 15-yard penalty and automatic ejection of the player that committed the targeting foul.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    oh, why not shut up and look it up? You are completely wrong.

    In college football, targeting is defined as, “making forcible contact with the crown of the helmet,” or “making forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player”. Under current strictures, a targeting call leads to a 15-yard penalty and automatic ejection of the player that committed the targeting foul.

    And the current structure is too black and white. The end. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    https://www.si.com/college/2018/08/21/college-football-helmet-targeting-rule-explained

    The official 2018 Football Code of the NCAA Football Rules Committee stresses that "players and coaches should emphasize the elimination of targeting and initiating contact against a defenseless opponent and/or with the crown of the helmet."

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    Targeting does not solely occur when players initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. It's defined as occurring when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Instances include, but are not limited to:

    • Launch--a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
    • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
    • Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
    • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

    Since 2008, the committee has implemented rules to prohibit forcible contact using the helmet and target defenseless opponents. In 2013, it became an ejectionable offense, in addition to incurring a 15-yard penalty. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    oh, why not shut up and look it up? You are completely wrong.

    In college football, targeting is defined as, “making forcible contact with the crown of the helmet,” or “making forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player”. Under current strictures, a targeting call leads to a 15-yard penalty and automatic ejection of the player that committed the targeting foul.

    And the current structure is too black and white. The end. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    @vagitron said:

    And the current structure is too black and white. The end. 

    then don't defend the call, one who played football, but criticize the rules about it.

    Would you like a definition of your rationalization?

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by

    I didn't love the call and I don't love the rules. If anything, throw a flag for 15 yards, but don't toss him out. The biggest thing for me was that he didn't keep his eyes up, therefore hitting with the crown. It didn't seem malicious because Fields was spinning and I honestly think the LB was just trying to make a solid stick. But eyes were down, thus crown of the helmet.