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  • @tour2ma said:

    Could? Yes...

    Would? Nope... and why would we want to?

    i was meaning pittsburgh 

    @atom said:

    i was meaning pittsburgh 

    Absolutely not, I'd be livid if they tried. You saw what Stafford got so Watson would get significantly more.  I really like Watson, he's right below Mahomes but the capital required to get him would be insane and you mortgage the future of your team.  The Steelers have made some "out of character" trades recently but that one would be a complete and total departure and if they wanted a QB i'd much rather see them trade up and draft someone like Trey Lance.

  • Found this as something interesting to watch, with strapped cap teams... it's going to get creative alright..  https://overthecap.com/eagles-get-creative-with-the-salary-cap/ 

    I'm keeping my eyes on the Eagles defensive pieces due to Berry & tHowie Roseman connection.. Atlanta is another team to watch.. Donte Fowler jr. maybe out?  Also asking Grady Jarrett & or Deion Jones to reconstruct?  

    @gumby73 said:

    Found this as something interesting to watch, with strapped cap teams... it's going to get creative alright..  https://overthecap.com/eagles-get-creative-with-the-salary-cap/ 

    I'm keeping my eyes on the Eagles defensive pieces due to Berry & tHowie Roseman connection.. Atlanta is another team to watch.. Donte Fowler jr. maybe out?  Also asking Grady Jarrett & or Deion Jones to reconstruct?  

    Jarrett and Jones are transformers? ?

    Definitely going to be a wild offseason with a good bit of movement for a lot of teams, unless the cap comes in higher than expected.  There are officials that believe it could come in at 185 which would help a lot but it's obviously pure speculation. There are definitely going to be restructures. I expect at least two with the Steelers. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Could? Yes...

    Would? Nope... and why would we want to?

    i was meaning pittsburgh 

    @atom said:

    i was meaning pittsburgh 

    Ah.... well that's different...

    Nevermind...

  • If Pittsburgh tried to make a play for Watson,  imagine what they would have to give up.....both in picks, players, and money.

    Here are his cap hit numbers:

    2020 Contract details by year 25 $1,177,123 $7,453,961 $1,177,123 $9,808,207 $75,771,084 $29,354,246($29,354,246)  
    2021 Contract details by year 26 $10,540,000 $5,400,000 - $15,940,000 $67,140,000 $10,540,000($39,894,246)  
    2022 Contract details by year 27 $35,000,000 $5,400,000 - $40,400,000 $51,200,000 $35,000,000($74,894,246)  
    2023 Contract details by year 28 $20,000,000 $5,400,000 $17,000,000 $42,400,000 $10,800,000 $37,000,000($111,894,246)

    Plus, if they went for him, they would have to give up at least 3 first round picks plus probably a couple of players:  how about TJ Watt and MInkah.   I mean, the Texans went 4-12 with him....I suspect the Squibs could really do no better.  Also, unlike BR, he AIN'T giving up no salary

  • @vagitron said:

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    Again,  guy thinks it is all about him.  It has fuck all to do with him.   No one cares what one little mastubatory Steeler fan thinks. 

    It has to do with the content and the material.   He is just too uneducated to understand apparently.  Totally self centered. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Again,  guy thinks it is all about him.  It has fuck all to do with him.   No one cares what one little mastubatory Steeler fan thinks. 

    It has to do with the content and the material.   He is just too uneducated to understand apparently.  Totally self centered. 

    He wants you to be his friend and see where it goes from there. It's obvious. 

  • And Marquis pouncy is gone!

    It's going to be fun watching this ball of string unravel as it rolls across the floor.

  • @browns149 said:

    He has been accused of rape twice. And settled out of court with one of the victims. So, yes he’s a rapist. Why is that a lazy take?

    It’s lazy because it’s a dead horse. It’s lazy because it has zero to do with the maturation of Dwayne Haskins. Ben at a younger age was a skeeze ball. I saw it first hand when he would pop up out at the bars and the women would fucking essentially line up. The girl in Georgia followed him from bar to bar, that doesn’t sound like a rape victim. It sounds like a sorority girl that has sex with a pro athlete in a bathroom and when he didn’t want to date it became something else. Go read the reports. Either way it’s lazy for the first two reasons and it’s old and tired. Be better.

    @vagitron said:

    It’s lazy because it’s a dead horse. It’s lazy because it has zero to do with the maturation of Dwayne Haskins. Ben at a younger age was a skeeze ball. I saw it first hand when he would pop up out at the bars and the women would fucking essentially line up. The girl in Georgia followed him from bar to bar, that doesn’t sound like a rape victim. It sounds like a sorority girl that has sex with a pro athlete in a bathroom and when he didn’t want to date it became something else. Go read the reports. Either way it’s lazy for the first two reasons and it’s old and tired. Be better.

    Comin from the same guy who probably said ray lewis was a murderer,,,your all a bunch of douchebags,,,

  • For what it's worth,   3 of the 4 talking heads on Get Up! this morning said that the Steelers would be better off moving on from BR this year.   And the other one said the reason to keep him is that he still would cost  23 million on the cap if you dumped him...and thought that they could instead do better by improving their running game.  But, they also acknowledged that that would mean  they would have to replace Pouncey, and upgrade a couple of other OL spots...and get a decent RB, and those would likely have to be draft picks.   The others agreed but said that if they are at that point, they may as well put to team in younger, hopefully better....at least more mobile hands.  Right now, with a potentially porous OL,  no running game, and a statue at QB,  and probably losing one of their top receivers  (juju)  it would not look good for them, so they may as well move on. 

  • I think they keep BR because of the cap hit and they aren’t in a place in the draft to take one of the top QBs this season or take on money moving on from Ben.  They should Build a fortress around the QB position for him next season and the next guy in 2022.  It May involve spending valuable draft capital and getting creative by signing low budget guys that could be capable.

    They need a back too. 
     

    They need to get back to how they started with Ben...great defense and a great running game.

  • The Steelers GM  very  Non-committal about   BRs  future with the team:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-gm-kevin-colbert-does-not-commit-to-bringing-ben-roethlisberger-back-for-the-2021-season/

    "Hopefully there's a way we can figure out what's best for the organization. Hopefully he can see that and feel the same way. There's a lot of work to be done."

  • Questions asked on  PFT  this morning:      Which is the most likely scenario involving  Ben R. this coming year (I paraphrased some) :

    A.   He takes the big pay cut and  is the Steelers starting QB 

    B.  He sees the light and voluntarily  retires.

    C. He doesn't see the light, but the Steelers do  and cut him, and he catches on with another team

    D.  The Steelers cut him and no team shows any interest in him and he is forced, essentially, into retirement.

    Which option do you think is more likely? 

  • Don't see him taking that big of a pay cut. It makes no sense in keeping him for another year when they have to sign the younger talent for the future. He isn't worth it at this point.

    His last game is a big L to the browns.

  • Anybody else find it odd? That the HOF QB coattail's they all rode for all these years.. now can't pass protect..run, because Conners could not..dropped passes he threw & thought dancing on team logo's was a good idea ?...
     
    Yep Colbert ! !  Rooney & yourself made yourselves a nice mess... Keep Ben? or A cost loss of a few defensive pieces? Which corner will they back themselves into next? stay tuned 
     
               GIFs Were waiting Well GIF
  • Anybody else find it odd? That the HOF QB coattail's they all rode for all these years.. now can't pass protect..run, because Conners could not..dropped passes he threw & thought dancing on team logo's was a good idea ?...
     
    Yep Colbert ! !  Rooney & yourself made yourselves a nice mess... Keep Ben? or A cost loss of a few defensive pieces? Which corner will they back themselves into next? stay tuned 
     
               GIFs Were waiting Well GIF

    @gumby73 said:

    Anybody else find it odd? That the HOF QB coattail's they all rode for all these years.. now can't pass protect..run, because Conners could not..dropped passes he threw & thought dancing on team logo's was a good idea ?...
     
    Yep Colbert ! !  Rooney & yourself made yourselves a nice mess... Keep Ben? or A cost loss of a few defensive pieces? Which corner will they back themselves into next? stay tuned 
     
               GIFs Were waiting Well GIF

    Commentators have said they are going to have to let  Conner,  Juju, Dupree, Villanueva, and  Alualu all walk in free agency.   We shall see. 

  • BR meets with  Steelers ownership today to discuss future:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-tomlin-confirms-he-contracted-covid-19-040903657.html

  • @gumby73 said:

    Anybody else find it odd? That the HOF QB coattail's they all rode for all these years.. now can't pass protect..run, because Conners could not..dropped passes he threw & thought dancing on team logo's was a good idea ?...
     
    Yep Colbert ! !  Rooney & yourself made yourselves a nice mess... Keep Ben? or A cost loss of a few defensive pieces? Which corner will they back themselves into next? stay tuned 
     
               GIFs Were waiting Well GIF

    Commentators have said they are going to have to let  Conner,  Juju, Dupree, Villanueva, and  Alualu all walk in free agency.   We shall see. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Commentators have said they are going to have to let  Conner,  Juju, Dupree, Villanueva, and  Alualu all walk in free agency.   We shall see. 

    In the Steelers defense which I hate to do...all are replaceable except for Alualu - they will need a wide body there to make the 3-4 work.

    Alex Highsmith is going to do well. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Commentators have said they are going to have to let  Conner,  Juju, Dupree, Villanueva, and  Alualu all walk in free agency.   We shall see. 

    In the Steelers defense which I hate to do...all are replaceable except for Alualu - they will need a wide body there to make the 3-4 work.

    Alex Highsmith is going to do well. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    In the Steelers defense which I hate to do...all are replaceable except for Alualu - they will need a wide body there to make the 3-4 work.

    Alex Highsmith is going to do well. 

    Perhaps.  I would have said Dupree was more valuable.  Think about it.....it was after Dupree went down that the Steelers went into the tank. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    In the Steelers defense which I hate to do...all are replaceable except for Alualu - they will need a wide body there to make the 3-4 work.

    Alex Highsmith is going to do well. 

    Perhaps.  I would have said Dupree was more valuable.  Think about it.....it was after Dupree went down that the Steelers went into the tank. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Perhaps.  I would have said Dupree was more valuable.  Think about it.....it was after Dupree went down that the Steelers went into the tank. 

    Okay but Dupree had nothing to do with the Steelers being one dimensional on offense and Ben showing his age. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Perhaps.  I would have said Dupree was more valuable.  Think about it.....it was after Dupree went down that the Steelers went into the tank. 

    Okay but Dupree had nothing to do with the Steelers being one dimensional on offense and Ben showing his age. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Okay but Dupree had nothing to do with the Steelers being one dimensional on offense and Ben showing his age. 

    True, but, at the same time that was happening, their defense also started faltering.  So what came first, the chicken or the egg. I think the following shows that when Dupree was in, the defense did much better. 

    1 Mon, Sep 14 W26-16 1-0 Roethlisberger 229 Snell Jr. 113 Smith-Schuster 69
    2 Sun, Sep 20
    vsDenverDenver
    W26-21 2-0 Roethlisberger 311 Conner 106 Johnson 92
    3 Sun, Sep 27 W28-21 3-0 Roethlisberger 237 Conner 109 Ebron 52
    5 Sun, Oct 11 W38-29 4-0 Roethlisberger 239 McCloud 63 Claypool 110
    6 Sun, Oct 18 W38-7 5-0 Roethlisberger 162 Conner 101 Claypool 74
    7 Sun, Oct 25 W27-24 6-0 Roethlisberger 268 Conner 82 Smith-Schuster 85
    8 Sun, Nov 1 W28-24 7-0 Roethlisberger 182 Conner 47 Smith-Schuster 67
    9 Sun, Nov 8 W24-19 8-0 Roethlisberger 306 Conner 22 Smith-Schuster 93
    10 Sun, Nov 15 W36-10 9-0 Roethlisberger 333 Conner 36 Johnson 116
    11 Sun, Nov 22 W27-3 10-0 Roethlisberger 267 Conner 89 Johnson 111
    12 Wed, Dec 2 W19-14 11-0 Roethlisberger 266 Snell Jr. 60 Ebron 54
    13 Mon, Dec 7 L23-17 11-1 Roethlisberger 305 McFarland Jr. 15 Washington 80
    14 Sun, Dec 13 L26-15 11-2 Roethlisberger 187 Conner 18 Smith-Schuster 55
    15 Mon, Dec 21 L27-17 11-3 Roethlisberger 170 Snell Jr. 84 Johnson 59
    16 Sun, Dec 27 W28-24 12-3 Roethlisberger 341 Conner 21 Smith-Schuster 96
    17 Sun, Jan 3 L24-22 12-4 Rudolph 315 Conner 37 Claypool 101
  • Bottom line:  if the Squibs have to lose both  Dupree and Alualu,  as is speculated,  its all good.