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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Baker used to get hummers from skanks in the parking lot of Cheesecake Factories, now he's seeing UFOs.

    Safe to say he never will have a boring offseason. Can't wait to see what happens next offseason. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/warp-drive-faster-light-space-travel-b1813958.html

    Nice try...  From the comments...  

    "Aside from the fact that there are no known ways to either contract existing spacetime or create new spacetime on demand, so the propulsion technique is entirely imaginary, hey, why not? I can imagine a sparkly yellow unicorn dancing in orbit around Mars, too - which is just as probable as this propulsive system."

    Just a modified wormhole theory Gipper...  Other than far beyond anything we can currently produce- it takes an unbelievable amount of energy to accelerate an object to quantum speeds. FWIW, the best we can currently do- 150,000 mph- we're well short of the roughly 3,600X faster we'd need to go- just to get to the speed of light.  The other obvious thing- assuming Einstein is right- when you accelerate an object to above light speed- time moves backwards.  For a kicks and giggles thought. Let's assume a spacecraft moving at double the speed of light. We get to Alpha Centauri in two years- that's 1\2 the time it took light to get to Earth. We're now living (relative to Earth)- two years in the past.  🙂  

    So is the speed of light the speed limit of our Universe?  That will be a question for generations in our far distant future to answer.  

  • Baker used to get hummers from skanks in the parking lot of Cheesecake Factories, now he's seeing UFOs.

    Safe to say he never will have a boring offseason. Can't wait to see what happens next offseason. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Baker used to get hummers from skanks in the parking lot of Cheesecake Factories, now he's seeing UFOs.

    Safe to say he never will have a boring offseason. Can't wait to see what happens next offseason. 

    Until I see him rolling up $20s on a rubber swan in a Vegas pool with a half-filled bottle of Jack floating nearby, he ain't got off-season game.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/warp-drive-faster-light-space-travel-b1813958.html

    Nice try...  From the comments...  

    "Aside from the fact that there are no known ways to either contract existing spacetime or create new spacetime on demand, so the propulsion technique is entirely imaginary, hey, why not? I can imagine a sparkly yellow unicorn dancing in orbit around Mars, too - which is just as probable as this propulsive system."

    Just a modified wormhole theory Gipper...  Other than far beyond anything we can currently produce- it takes an unbelievable amount of energy to accelerate an object to quantum speeds. FWIW, the best we can currently do- 150,000 mph- we're well short of the roughly 3,600X faster we'd need to go- just to get to the speed of light.  The other obvious thing- assuming Einstein is right- when you accelerate an object to above light speed- time moves backwards.  For a kicks and giggles thought. Let's assume a spacecraft moving at double the speed of light. We get to Alpha Centauri in two years- that's 1\2 the time it took light to get to Earth. We're now living (relative to Earth)- two years in the past.  🙂  

    So is the speed of light the speed limit of our Universe?  That will be a question for generations in our far distant future to answer.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Nice try...  From the comments...  

    "Aside from the fact that there are no known ways to either contract existing spacetime or create new spacetime on demand, so the propulsion technique is entirely imaginary, hey, why not? I can imagine a sparkly yellow unicorn dancing in orbit around Mars, too - which is just as probable as this propulsive system."

    Just a modified wormhole theory Gipper...  Other than far beyond anything we can currently produce- it takes an unbelievable amount of energy to accelerate an object to quantum speeds. FWIW, the best we can currently do- 150,000 mph- we're well short of the roughly 3,600X faster we'd need to go- just to get to the speed of light.  The other obvious thing- assuming Einstein is right- when you accelerate an object to above light speed- time moves backwards.  For a kicks and giggles thought. Let's assume a spacecraft moving at double the speed of light. We get to Alpha Centauri in two years- that's 1\2 the time it took light to get to Earth. We're now living (relative to Earth)- two years in the past.  🙂  

    So is the speed of light the speed limit of our Universe?  That will be a question for generations in our far distant future to answer.  

    What about the "wormhole" theory?   I see it in science fiction all the time....but what is the supposed theory behind it.  Stargate?

    As, as a Dune fan,  there is the concept of "Folding Space".   Is that too just a modified wormhole theory?  Whatever that is

  • @hoorta said:

    Nice try...  From the comments...  

    "Aside from the fact that there are no known ways to either contract existing spacetime or create new spacetime on demand, so the propulsion technique is entirely imaginary, hey, why not? I can imagine a sparkly yellow unicorn dancing in orbit around Mars, too - which is just as probable as this propulsive system."

    Just a modified wormhole theory Gipper...  Other than far beyond anything we can currently produce- it takes an unbelievable amount of energy to accelerate an object to quantum speeds. FWIW, the best we can currently do- 150,000 mph- we're well short of the roughly 3,600X faster we'd need to go- just to get to the speed of light.  The other obvious thing- assuming Einstein is right- when you accelerate an object to above light speed- time moves backwards.  For a kicks and giggles thought. Let's assume a spacecraft moving at double the speed of light. We get to Alpha Centauri in two years- that's 1\2 the time it took light to get to Earth. We're now living (relative to Earth)- two years in the past.  🙂  

    So is the speed of light the speed limit of our Universe?  That will be a question for generations in our far distant future to answer.  

    What about the "wormhole" theory?   I see it in science fiction all the time....but what is the supposed theory behind it.  Stargate?

    As, as a Dune fan,  there is the concept of "Folding Space".   Is that too just a modified wormhole theory?  Whatever that is

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    @the-gipper said:

    What about the "wormhole" theory?   I see it in science fiction all the time....but what is the supposed theory behind it.  Stargate?

    As, as a Dune fan,  there is the concept of "Folding Space".   Is that too just a modified wormhole theory?  Whatever that is

    It "wormholes" is just a "theory" Gipper. There's no proof they actually exist. Wishful thinking?

    That one comment from my previous post mentioned "space-time". Relativity says they're not two separate entities, they're linked. Think of it as an X-Y graph with space and time on different axis. The faster you move through space, the slower time goes, until at the speed of light- time = 0.

    Everything we've seen to date essentially supports it.  Maybe there are objects flying around faster than light in an alternate universe that we can't detect, who knows? Getting there isn't in our current ability.  🙂

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    According to Bob Lazar, the Roswell space ship (that he worked with) somehow contracts space ahead of you and expands it behind you.  Almost like sucking you forward.  Of course, that's if you believe any of that Roswell stuff.

    Wormholes, man, that would take Soooo much energy to create.  And then you have to keep it open.  And you have to somehow fly through it.  And how would you know where the hell you'd end up?  And how would you get back?  Theoretical stuff.....and we just don't see any of it anywhere.

    So far, the speed of light is the limit.  And that speed is incredibly slow...when thinking about the vast distances to actually get anywhere.  And you have to be a mass-less particle (oxymoronic) to attain such a speed.

    The nearest star is way waaaay too far away for us to ever dream of reaching......at this point in time.

  • @nickers said:

    I had also read that there are suns so big.. it takes centuries even millenia to make one single orbit around it... I find that fascinating.. And really puts you in perspective to what we really are in terms of scale.. It makes me wonder if there is some microbial lifeform with intelligence equal or greater than ours... Thats mind numbing when you think of the scope of our universe...

    I knew off of the top of my head many stars are so large, Saturn's orbit would fit very comfortably inside them.  Here's an image of the largest star we know about. In the dim constellation Scutum, 20 degrees north of Sagittarius.  

    How big is the biggest star we have ever found?

    @nickers said:

    Me too... I just don't own a telescope yet.. I'm a space junkie...

    As to telescopes I actually own- an old 6" f\10 reflector I built 50 years ago. And a Meade 4" Schmidt-Cassegrain- the biggest 'scope that will fit in an overhead bin of an airplane. Handy when you go on solar eclipse trips. But you rapidly get spoiled when you have access to the local astronomy club's 16" reflector, or head out to star parties at dark sky sites where guys who are really into it haul their 24" and larger telescopes there on trailers. Jupiter was so bright looking through one of those 24" scopes, it almost hurt your eyes to look at it. 

    PS- it's a waste of money having one of those big scopes, unless you live somewhere way out in the country. With the ever increasing light pollution and sky glow, looking for- as I like to call them "the dim fuzzies" is like trying to spot a polar bear in a blizzard.  

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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    @hoorta said:

    Here's an image of the largest star we know about. In the dim constellation Scutum, 20 degrees north of Sagittarius.  

    How big is the biggest star we have ever found?

    Actually, due to a distance measuring error, it's not even in the top 10 anymore.  It's much closer to us than they thought.  The new (and temporary) largest star is one of the Stephenson Group.

    I really like these Kurzgesagt guys videos too...

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    God is great.

  • @hoorta said:

    Here's an image of the largest star we know about. In the dim constellation Scutum, 20 degrees north of Sagittarius.  

    How big is the biggest star we have ever found?

    Actually, due to a distance measuring error, it's not even in the top 10 anymore.  It's much closer to us than they thought.  The new (and temporary) largest star is one of the Stephenson Group.

    I really like these Kurzgesagt guys videos too...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Actually, due to a distance measuring error, it's not even in the top 10 anymore.  It's much closer to us than they thought. 

    The new (and temporary) largest star is one of the Stephenson Group.

    I really like these Kurzgesagt guys videos too...

    But does it really matter?  All the contenders in the supergiant category are of the red persuasion. We're never going to personally visit any of them in our lifetimes anyway.  🙂  

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    https://www.mufon.com/ufo-news

    Delta-shaped Object Silhouetted by Moon

    Case 113663: Susanne, Mark and Tyler [last name withheld] were on a family vacation in Divide, Colorado.  Suzanne claims to have seen a “dark object reflecting off the Moon.”  Divide is in the vicinity of Colorado Springs, approximately 60 miles south of Denver.  Colorado Springs is the location of the US Air Force and US Space Force Academy.  Petersen Air Force Base is also located nearby and adjacent to the Colorado Springs Municipal Airport. Colorado Springs is home to the North American Aerospace Command (NORAD) and the Space Force’s 21st Space Wing. 
     
    While taking pictures, Suzanne zoomed in on the dark object which appeared to be a small triangle-shaped object silhouetted by the Moon.  She indicated in the CMS report that the Moon was at 90° above the horizon, that it glowed and left a trail or cloud.  Her initial photo is shown below.  The duration of the observation was one hour.  The object has a definite triangle or arrowhead shape.

    021721a_orig.jpg

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    Y'all hear about the Aggie Astronaut who wanted to be the first man to land on the sun? Now don't laugh. He won't just burn up. He's going at night.??‍??

  • @orion said:

    Actually, due to a distance measuring error, it's not even in the top 10 anymore.  It's much closer to us than they thought. 

    The new (and temporary) largest star is one of the Stephenson Group.

    I really like these Kurzgesagt guys videos too...

    But does it really matter?  All the contenders in the supergiant category are of the red persuasion. We're never going to personally visit any of them in our lifetimes anyway.  🙂  

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    But does it really matter?  All the contenders in the supergiant category are of the red persuasion. We're never going to personally visit any of them in our lifetimes anyway.  🙂  

    Honestly, I don't think that dying stars should count in the size competition.  They're losing their ability to hang on to their mass.  Outer layers are just kinda' poofing off.  Like when our sun dies, it's outer layers are gonna swell out to earth's orbit (or there abouts).  But that's not really a true measure of what the star really was.  It's just a big fucking hot cloud that will engulf the earth (if it reaches and/or push earth farther out).

  • @hoorta said:

    But does it really matter?  All the contenders in the supergiant category are of the red persuasion. We're never going to personally visit any of them in our lifetimes anyway.  🙂  

    Honestly, I don't think that dying stars should count in the size competition.  They're losing their ability to hang on to their mass.  Outer layers are just kinda' poofing off.  Like when our sun dies, it's outer layers are gonna swell out to earth's orbit (or there abouts).  But that's not really a true measure of what the star really was.  It's just a big fucking hot cloud that will engulf the earth (if it reaches and/or push earth farther out).

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Honestly, I don't think that dying stars should count in the size competition.  They're losing their ability to hang on to their mass.  Outer layers are just kinda' poofing off.  Like when our sun dies, it's outer layers are gonna swell out to earth's orbit (or there abouts).  But that's not really a true measure of what the star really was.  It's just a big fucking hot cloud that will engulf the earth (if it reaches and/or push earth farther out).

    That is when we call for this to be instituted:   The Galactica Convoy:

    The Coolest Ship in All of Sci-Fi-dom | The Improbable Author

  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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    I'm a firm believer in UFOs and aliens. I see them all the time when I eat mushrooms.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    I believe that abiogenesis is rare.  Life from non life.  I think it's just really hard to get the ball kicked off.  And probably equally as hard to go from an ameba to something that can do physics.  But putting the first part, abiogenesis, to bed is something that is just about within our reach.  If we could get equipment out to select moons of Saturn & Jupiter, and drill down far enough to get to the liquid oceans, there might be proof that it happened there too.  But there might not.  With our lights and cameras, we may see nothing swimming or bobbing about.  It would be very cool to know.  I'm not sure if my two grandboys will get to know....but it shouldn't be too many generations out.

  • NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    I believe in other life forms in the Universe, but just as Orion said, even the speed of light is slow compared to the seize of the Universe. The closest galaxy is Andromeda at 4 light years if I recall correctly... So it would we weird for us to contact with other life forms, and if we would, I'd beet it would be through some signal in the space, not suddenly via a spacecraft. Hence my theory that some UFOs most likely are related with Air Force or something like that. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    Choo-Choo ca chew at the Long John Silvers ? ? I just past the coffee caffeine phase.... carry on ya ol'mighty aliens ?... on mushrooms is perfectly excused 

  • I believe that abiogenesis is rare.  Life from non life.  I think it's just really hard to get the ball kicked off.  And probably equally as hard to go from an ameba to something that can do physics.  But putting the first part, abiogenesis, to bed is something that is just about within our reach.  If we could get equipment out to select moons of Saturn & Jupiter, and drill down far enough to get to the liquid oceans, there might be proof that it happened there too.  But there might not.  With our lights and cameras, we may see nothing swimming or bobbing about.  It would be very cool to know.  I'm not sure if my two grandboys will get to know....but it shouldn't be too many generations out.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    I believe that abiogenesis is rare.  Life from non life.  I think it's just really hard to get the ball kicked off.  And probably equally as hard to go from an ameba to something that can do physics.  But putting the first part, abiogenesis, to bed is something that is just about within our reach.  If we could get equipment out to select moons of Saturn & Jupiter, and drill down far enough to get to the liquid oceans, there might be proof that it happened there too.  But there might not.  With our lights and cameras, we may see nothing swimming or bobbing about.  It would be very cool to know.  I'm not sure if my two grandboys will get to know....but it shouldn't be too many generations out.

    I don't know if it would be rare.....given the right conditions.   LIquid water,  a source of thermal heat, the right mix of chemicals.   As you say, there could be elemental life forms swimming about on  Io or Europa or the like. And I know that they have identified a few what they call "Goldilocks planets" in other systems.