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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @londonbrown said:

    How they decide who the 17th game is against will be interesting as the current method is simple 

    So the current formula is:

    (6) games vs your own division (home and away)

    (4) games vs a division in opposite conference

    Not sure how the other 6 games are set. I believe it has something to do with your division standing the year before. (If Browns finished in 3rd place in the AFC North, they would play 3rd place finishers in the AFC East, South and West?)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    @dutch-oven said:

    So the current formula is:

    (6) games vs your own division (home and away)

    (4) games vs a division in opposite conference

    Not sure how the other 6 games are set. I believe it has something to do with your division standing the year before. (If Browns finished in 3rd place in the AFC North, they would play 3rd place finishers in the AFC East, South and West?)

    Partially correct: 

    1.   Six games home and home  vs.  your own division

    2.  4 games vs.  all teams in  another division in your own  conference...on rotating basis

    3.  4 games vs.  all teams in another division  in the other conference....on rotating basis

    4.  2 games  vs.  the other two teams in your own conference that ended in the same spot in the standings as you  that are not in the other conf. division that your division is playing a round robin with.

    5.  Last game  #17  will be against  a team in the other conference that ended in the same spot in the standings as you that is not in the division your division is playing round robin against,  on a  rotating basis: 

    Ergo, Browns  in 2021  will be playing:   Rats, Squibs, Pussies  twice each.   They play each team in the AFC West.  They play each team in the NFC North.   They play the other  3rd place finishers in the AFCE and AFC South  i.e.  the Patriots and the  Texans.   And, they will play either the Cardinals,  Cowboys, or Panthers......and I believe I heard that it will be  the NFC  West  corresponding team for AFCN teams.    In other words:   Browns play  Cardinals,   Steelers play Seahawks,  Ravens play Rams.  Bengal play  49ers

    As for which  teams get the  home field for that 17th game....again, I think it goes on a rotation basis...but I am not sure what happens this year. 

    Here is schedule without  17th game:

    2021

  • L LondonBrown

    To be announced this week according to Schefter, good or bad idea? 
     

    Browns in the record books as the first to go 17-0 is gonna be nice 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #7

    @londonbrown said:

    To be announced this week according to Schefter, good or bad idea? 
     

    Browns in the record books as the first to go 17-0 is gonna be nice 

    Do you mean the schedule will be announced this week ....or just that they will announce the fact that they will implement the  17 game schedule....and come out with that schedule at a later time?  Which is nothing at all because we have know they were going to do that....for money,  for a year now.  

  • L LondonBrown

    To be announced this week according to Schefter, good or bad idea? 
     

    Browns in the record books as the first to go 17-0 is gonna be nice 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #8

    @londonbrown said:

    To be announced this week according to Schefter, good or bad idea? 
     

    Browns in the record books as the first to go 17-0 is gonna be nice 

    I will like a 17 game schedule if they cut out all pre-season games. 

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @londonbrown said:

    To be announced this week according to Schefter, good or bad idea? 
     

    Browns in the record books as the first to go 17-0 is gonna be nice 

    I will like a 17 game schedule if they cut out all pre-season games. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #9

    @d-bone said:

    I will like a 17 game schedule if they cut out all pre-season games. 

    Probably cut it down to  2.....at most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @d-bone said:

    I will like a 17 game schedule if they cut out all pre-season games. 

    Probably cut it down to  2.....at most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #10

    @the-gipper said:

    Probably cut it down to  2.....and most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    The money they lose from those meaningless games will be partially subsidized by the one extra real game..... and I don't think a single NFL owner is relying on a stimulus check to meet payroll. 

    Any good coaching staff can get down to 53 without a single pre-season game, especially given the practice squad.

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players, while the 17th game is for the fans.   

    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • NeroN Nero wrote on
    #11

    17 games is an awful idea. They already take the first games too easy to even have more games to have more injuries. 

    I agree with DBone, I would accept it if they got rid of the preseason games. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #12

    fun fact 16 game schedule.jpg

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @d-bone said:

    I will like a 17 game schedule if they cut out all pre-season games. 

    Probably cut it down to  2.....at most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #13

    @the-gipper said:

    Probably cut it down to  2.....and most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    They are cutting 1 pre-season game.  This year we will have one pre-season home game  and one extra regular.  Next year 2 preseason home games and a extra road game.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #14
    NFL expanding the schedule to 17 games this week is more of a formality than it is news. #Browns are expected to host #Cardinals in that 17th game in 2021.
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  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #15

    Seems the extra game is against a team in the other conference who finished in the same position in the standings as yourself. 

  • VamboV Vambo wrote on
    #16
    Field Yates@FieldYates
    Using the formula reported by @peter_king (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/28/nfl…), here are the expected matchups for the NFL's 17th game for each team in 2021.
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  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #17

    I understand how the match ups come up but I haven’t seen how it’s decided who’s at home ?

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @the-gipper said:

    Probably cut it down to  2.....and most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    The money they lose from those meaningless games will be partially subsidized by the one extra real game..... and I don't think a single NFL owner is relying on a stimulus check to meet payroll. 

    Any good coaching staff can get down to 53 without a single pre-season game, especially given the practice squad.

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players, while the 17th game is for the fans.   

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #18

    @d-bone said:

    The money they lose from those meaningless games will be partially subsidized by the one extra real game..... and I don't think a single NFL owner is relying on a stimulus check to meet payroll. 

    Any good coaching staff can get down to 53 without a single pre-season game, especially given the practice squad.

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players, while the 17th game is for the fans.   

    Yes,  the  17th game is for the owners pocketbooks....though clearly the players will benefit monetarily as well.   And the preseason games are also for the owners pocketbooks,  but I do think that  most GMs/coaches want  a couple of live games to do some evaluations.  They COULD do without,  but they much prefer to have those  games that don't count

  • VamboV Vambo
    Field Yates@FieldYates
    Using the formula reported by @peter_king (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/28/nfl…), here are the expected matchups for the NFL's 17th game for each team in 2021.
    Mar 28, 2021 2K 144View on X
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #19

    @vambo said:

    So, per this,  the entire  AFC  will have the extra game as a home game this year.  

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #20

    Ah of course, be NFC next year

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @the-gipper said:

    Probably cut it down to  2.....and most 3,  but not all.    They still make big money from those and  they do have some use in separating the wheat from the Chaff. 

    The money they lose from those meaningless games will be partially subsidized by the one extra real game..... and I don't think a single NFL owner is relying on a stimulus check to meet payroll. 

    Any good coaching staff can get down to 53 without a single pre-season game, especially given the practice squad.

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players, while the 17th game is for the fans.   

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #21

    @d-bone said:

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @d-bone said:

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #22

    @tour2ma said:

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

    I would argue that far more players have made the team in practice. Sure a big play in a game wows the media, who then pumps it out to the fans, but any competent coaching staff has seen glimpses of that before in camp. 

    While the games are lightly attended, they are still televised on local affiliates and the owners are still getting paid. The only positive I see regarding pre-season games is it does employ a lot of people that live pay check to pay check. (parking, security, vendors, etc..) 

    Never have been and never will be a pre-season fan. 

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #23

    Alabama or OSU will be added to each team's schedule to see who is really NFL or just a pretend team there for the $$$ only.?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @d-bone said:

    The pre-season games are for the owners and not the players

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #24

    @tour2ma said:

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

    Agree and the next move is probably expansion. That’s a money grab too and Hopefully it isn’t 20 games. 
     

    2,3,4 preseason games your stars and significant role players aren’t playing a lot.  It is for the depth guys and rookies.  Do we need 4 games to figure out depth with scrimmages and practices factored in too

  • S SdBacker80

    @tour2ma said:

    Disagree...

    Many a player has earned a roster spot by getting noticed in preseason, whereas the owners make less since the games are so lightly attended. With vets playing less than ever this is truer than ever.

    Converting one preseason game to one that counts is a terrible precedent to set.

    Agree and the next move is probably expansion. That’s a money grab too and Hopefully it isn’t 20 games. 
     

    2,3,4 preseason games your stars and significant role players aren’t playing a lot.  It is for the depth guys and rookies.  Do we need 4 games to figure out depth with scrimmages and practices factored in too

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #25

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Agree and the next move is probably expansion. That’s a money grab too and Hopefully it isn’t 20 games. 
     

    2,3,4 preseason games your stars and significant role players aren’t playing a lot.  It is for the depth guys and rookies.  Do we need 4 games to figure out depth with scrimmages and practices factored in too

    By expansion, if you mean more teams....that is not happening any time soon.   These owners do not want to  share any more of the money pie.    If by that you mean expansion to  18 games....that IS what the owners have wanted to do all along,  but to do that they would need to get the PA to agree, and so far, no dice on that,  but I do expect it to happen some day. 

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