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Rodgers for Baker is being speculated by the media. Thoughts on Rodgers with this roster!

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  • @atom said:

    then u r a fool

    Thinking we're heading into a dynasty with Baker is foolish 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Thinking we're heading into a dynasty with Baker is foolish 

    Thinking that you know anything about Football is foolish...

  • @atom said:

    then u r a fool

    Thinking we're heading into a dynasty with Baker is foolish 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Thinking we're heading into a dynasty with Baker is foolish 

    Depends on how you want to define "dynasty"... I suppose the Patriots come closest recently. But does Brady have the strongest arm? Nope. Most mobile? Nope. 

    Let's win just ONE before we start the dynasty talk.  🙂  

  • @mld-woody said:

    Thinking we're heading into a dynasty with Baker is foolish 

    Depends on how you want to define "dynasty"... I suppose the Patriots come closest recently. But does Brady have the strongest arm? Nope. Most mobile? Nope. 

    Let's win just ONE before we start the dynasty talk.  🙂  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Depends on how you want to define "dynasty"... I suppose the Patriots come closest recently. But does Brady have the strongest arm? Nope. Most mobile? Nope. 

    Let's win just ONE before we start the dynasty talk.  🙂  

    Or at least wait until Linda Evans and Joan Collins join the board 

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
    #58

    I'd rather watch game tape of day3 OL prospects to find our new swing IOL backup in the 2022 draft than talk about this nonsense.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    It would kill me to see the Packers have 30 years of QB play with Favre, Rodgers, Baker. I'd do it if we got picks from them. 

  • N Neo wrote on last edited by
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    Rodgers is in the twilight of his career and he has taken a beating over the years. Nobody knows how many years he has left or how long it will take him to get acclimated to our team, the clock is ticking.  Brady is an exception of the rule, NOT the rule. Baker is nowhere near as good as Rodgers but he has more value, more potential. Having a Super Bowl would be nice but something that means more to me is culture change, not having to deal with a decade or more of perpetual losing. Baker just gave us a win against our mortal rivals in the playoffs, I'm pretty happy with that. 

  • mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by mohican
    #61

    According to Mary Kay Cabot's Browns sources,  this is all just some mental masturbation by sportswriters

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/browns-are-all-in-on-baker-mayfield-and-wont-be-trading-for-aaron-rodgers-browns-insider.html

  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on last edited by SkippinTurtles
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     Joe Montana won 4 SB's and was shown the door for Steve Young.  Why is Baker untouchable?  He's just young.  And he'll never be Young.  Or Rodgers.  Baker is probably maxed out and his talent is below Mahomes and Josh Allen.  Rodgers with this core roster could easily win one SB or more. 3 in a row?  Maybe!

  • According to Mary Kay Cabot's Browns sources,  this is all just some mental masturbation by sportswriters

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/browns-are-all-in-on-baker-mayfield-and-wont-be-trading-for-aaron-rodgers-browns-insider.html

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    @mohican said:

    According to Mary Kay Cabot's Browns sources,  this is all just some mental masturbation by sportswriters

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/browns-are-all-in-on-baker-mayfield-and-wont-be-trading-for-aaron-rodgers-browns-insider.html

    Unfortunately, the article is hiding behind a paywall...  🙁  

    @skippinturtles said:

     Joe Montana won 4 SB's and was shown the door for Steve Young.  Why is Baker untouchable?  He's just young.  And he'll never be Young.  Or Rodgers.  Baker is probably maxed out and his talent is below Mahomes and Josh Allen.  Rodgers with this core roster could easily win one SB or more. 3 in a row?  Maybe!

    Baker isn't untouchable... But please just give up the Rodgers infatuation- it's not happening. Rodgers is 12 years older than Baker- for starters. He's going to be long out of the league while Mayfield is still playing.... You have no idea if Baker is maxed out either. The number of QBs who didn't hit their stride until their late 20s- or later- is pretty long. Jim Plunkett immediately comes to mind. 

    There's only two QBs in the NFL I would consider making a swap for- that's Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes- and respectively- they're both untouchable. Baker is pretty much in that category too, in 2021 and 2022. He'd have to seriously regress for the Browns to give up on him. AND YOU DON'T NEED THE GOAT (OR HIS FIRST COUSIN) TO WIN A SUPER BOWL...   Very mediocre guys like Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, and latest career backup Nick Foles got their rings. Brady didn't so much "win" his last SB- the Buc's defense brought Mahomes back to earth. It's a TEAM game guy.   

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #64

    This thread is still goin' eh?  Sportswriters trying to keep busy in May.

    At 37, I guess you could get 4 or 5 super bowl runs out of him, if you thought he could play to a high level into his 40's.  But you'd have to have a sense that Baker is not going to be very good QB.  As a GM, that's putting your neck out there.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
    #65

    The assertion that Rodgers on this roster equals instant SB is a strawman argument.. "this roster" must drop in talent by 3,4 players to shoehorn Rodgers' salary under the cap.

    Also, each draft pick from CLE sent to GB as part of the trade makes our roster even worse in future years.. relative to the rest of the league who will be using their picks to improve while Cleveland does nothing.

  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on last edited by
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    Salary cap question.  Can't Rodgers play for one dollar a season like Brady pretends to?

  • Salary cap question.  Can't Rodgers play for one dollar a season like Brady pretends to?

    BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Salary cap question.  Can't Rodgers play for one dollar a season like Brady pretends to?

    STFU...DA

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    A$$!!!

    Baker Mayfield is OUR QB1!!!!!! 

    GO BROWNS!!! 

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  • Salary cap question.  Can't Rodgers play for one dollar a season like Brady pretends to?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Salary cap question.  Can't Rodgers play for one dollar a season like Brady pretends to?

    Will you just return to  Earth from LaLa land? Brady has NEVER, I repeat-  NEVER played for a buck a year. It's not Rocket Science to find Tom will make $10 MILLION BUCKS+ this year. And that's because his wife probably makes more money than he does.  🙂 Unsympathetic laid it out for you. Who you going to cut/trade to clear $30+ million of cap room? 

    On top of that, it's also one of the reasons Rodgers is pouting and wants out of Green Bay.  His measly $33 million only puts him at #12 on the salary scale. (Guess State Farm isn't paying him enough for those commercials. ) You think he's going somewhere else and work cheap? Just a ploy on his part to get his pay upgraded. 

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  • @mohican said:

    According to Mary Kay Cabot's Browns sources,  this is all just some mental masturbation by sportswriters

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/browns-are-all-in-on-baker-mayfield-and-wont-be-trading-for-aaron-rodgers-browns-insider.html

    Unfortunately, the article is hiding behind a paywall...  🙁  

    @skippinturtles said:

     Joe Montana won 4 SB's and was shown the door for Steve Young.  Why is Baker untouchable?  He's just young.  And he'll never be Young.  Or Rodgers.  Baker is probably maxed out and his talent is below Mahomes and Josh Allen.  Rodgers with this core roster could easily win one SB or more. 3 in a row?  Maybe!

    Baker isn't untouchable... But please just give up the Rodgers infatuation- it's not happening. Rodgers is 12 years older than Baker- for starters. He's going to be long out of the league while Mayfield is still playing.... You have no idea if Baker is maxed out either. The number of QBs who didn't hit their stride until their late 20s- or later- is pretty long. Jim Plunkett immediately comes to mind. 

    There's only two QBs in the NFL I would consider making a swap for- that's Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes- and respectively- they're both untouchable. Baker is pretty much in that category too, in 2021 and 2022. He'd have to seriously regress for the Browns to give up on him. AND YOU DON'T NEED THE GOAT (OR HIS FIRST COUSIN) TO WIN A SUPER BOWL...   Very mediocre guys like Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, and latest career backup Nick Foles got their rings. Brady didn't so much "win" his last SB- the Buc's defense brought Mahomes back to earth. It's a TEAM game guy.   

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Unfortunately, the article is hiding behind a paywall...  🙁  

    Baker isn't untouchable... But please just give up the Rodgers infatuation- it's not happening. Rodgers is 12 years older than Baker- for starters. He's going to be long out of the league while Mayfield is still playing.... You have no idea if Baker is maxed out either. The number of QBs who didn't hit their stride until their late 20s- or later- is pretty long. Jim Plunkett immediately comes to mind. 

    There's only two QBs in the NFL I would consider making a swap for- that's Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes- and respectively- they're both untouchable. Baker is pretty much in that category too, in 2021 and 2022. He'd have to seriously regress for the Browns to give up on him. AND YOU DON'T NEED THE GOAT (OR HIS FIRST COUSIN) TO WIN A SUPER BOWL...   Very mediocre guys like Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, and latest career backup Nick Foles got their rings. Brady didn't so much "win" his last SB- the Buc's defense brought Mahomes back to earth. It's a TEAM game guy.   

    First off I don't think Josh Allen is all that... Secondly... Joe Flacco comes to mind when I think of "Mediocre"

  • @hoorta said:

    Unfortunately, the article is hiding behind a paywall...  🙁  

    Baker isn't untouchable... But please just give up the Rodgers infatuation- it's not happening. Rodgers is 12 years older than Baker- for starters. He's going to be long out of the league while Mayfield is still playing.... You have no idea if Baker is maxed out either. The number of QBs who didn't hit their stride until their late 20s- or later- is pretty long. Jim Plunkett immediately comes to mind. 

    There's only two QBs in the NFL I would consider making a swap for- that's Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes- and respectively- they're both untouchable. Baker is pretty much in that category too, in 2021 and 2022. He'd have to seriously regress for the Browns to give up on him. AND YOU DON'T NEED THE GOAT (OR HIS FIRST COUSIN) TO WIN A SUPER BOWL...   Very mediocre guys like Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, and latest career backup Nick Foles got their rings. Brady didn't so much "win" his last SB- the Buc's defense brought Mahomes back to earth. It's a TEAM game guy.   

    First off I don't think Josh Allen is all that... Secondly... Joe Flacco comes to mind when I think of "Mediocre"

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    First off I don't think Josh Allen is all that... Secondly... Joe Flacco comes to mind when I think of "Mediocre"

    1) I can't name every bum QB who won a Super Bowl because of a great supporting cast. 

    2) If Allen's 2020 season is any indication of what to expect of him in the future, you're dead wrong. Peruse his stats on pro football reference.  He's apparently overcome his big flaw- lack of accuracy.  Just may be seeing the second coming of John Elway. 

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
    #74

    This thread shall never die, good sirs.

    Baker is a rump-fed runion for not being the first NFL player to receive a negative salary! He must pay the Browns for the privilege of living and playing in Cleveland!