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PFF ranks Baker Mayfield tenth best QB heading into 2021

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  • Vambo VamboV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter First Post Posting Machine Collaborator Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/18/pff-ranks-baker-mayfield-tenth-best-qb-heading-into-2021/

    Pro Football Focus has high expectations for Mayfield, ranking him as the tenth best quarterback for the 2021 season:

    Give Coach of the Year Kevin Stefanski a ton of credit for how he helped set up his quarterback for success. The Browns protected Mayfield early in the season, but when Stefanski opened up the playbook, Baker excelled. He was the second-highest-graded quarterback in the league from Week 7 through the playoffs. He also ranked in the top five from a clean pocket, on standard dropbacks and on early downs for the entire season — all of which are important and stable metrics.

    There are a couple of interesting names listed just ahead of Mayfield with Lamar Jackson and Matt Ryan ranked eighth and ninth. It will be interesting if Mayfield is able to build on his 2020 season will he threaten the top five of these kinds of lists?

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      I look at it like this - Mayfield did a proud job this past year.

      This coming year - Lamar Jackson will have 3 first round draft picks at WR.

      Matt Ryan has had Julio Jones. Calving Ridley, both 1st round picks.

      Patrick Mahomes is outstanding, and he also has Travis Kelce at TE, Tyreek Hill, and Mercole Hardman...

         it's going to be exciting - and I can't wait to see what the addition of Anthony Schwartz brings to the office.

      and with the defense upgraded awesomely, he won't have to press like he has had to in the past...

      going to be a great time this season.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        Sounds about right.  I have never felt you needed to have the best QB in the league, just a top 1/3rd QB.  I think Baker falls somewhere is there  Add in a sound ground game and a good D and you have the makings of a team that can not only get into the playoffs, but be a solid contender in the playoffs.  As a fan that is about all you can ask for.  Once in the playoffs, sometimes a lucky or unlucky bounce of the ball makes the difference.

        The front office appears to be solid in their ability to bring in quality players, and the coaching staff appears ready to coach the team to a winning level.  If you have that, you have a chance.  For now, it is just one game at a time.  Win one, then work on winning the next.  Add them up and see what happens.  I will say a 3 game win streak goes a long way towards having a real shot.

        Just looking at the schedule, November is a critical month with only 1 home game.  At minimum we need to split November.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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          Best thing will be having a better defense to provide more time with the ball and more opportunities to grind down other teams with TOP.

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            At present, the 10th highest QB contract is.. you guessed it, Ryan Tannehill.  The delta between the 10th highest and highest is over 15M.. aka the annual salary of Garrett through end of next year [goes up the last 3 yrs of contract].

            Would you rather have a top-3 QB or.. the #10 QB and the #1 DE?  I'll take option 2 every day.

            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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              Regardless of the ranking we can only speculate how much Baker wants and salaries are just going to escalate from here. 

              I think it is critically important to get it done before Josh Allen signs.  Don’t let that negotiate which will be a similar to our negotiations dictate our offer. 

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                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                Zombo said:

                Well, we always wanted a Top Ten QB ... We got one. Also, he brings inangibles and leadership to the position that cannot be measured. Enjoy the ride, Boys!

                Zombo

                I always wanted a franchise quarterback how ever you measure that the last two BROWNS had were probably Kosar and Sipe.....winners.  I think Baker Mayfield can equal or top them especially with the RBs and good WR/TE combo plus the OL may be coming around, that's roughly what Bernie had.  And you can't overlook the influence of a good D, ST and coach.

                The 2020 era BROWNS may well be in the midst of one that combination now plus may be the top team in their division which helps so let's enjoy the ride !

                And of course they have the FANS.

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                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                  TypicalBrowns50T TypicalBrowns50 wrote on last edited by
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                  I admit I was harsh on baker the first half of last year. He was mediocre. He excelled the 2nd half and was dropping absolute dimes, ironically right after OBJ got hurt.

                  the main dynamic I want to see this year is Baker and Odell. If they have some better chemistry, it opens up the offense tremendously. 
                   

                  would you guys say last year Baker and Odell looked a little better? I’d say maybe marginally. The offense by its nature is about spreading the ball to multiple playmakers so I can see Odell having a similar year to last year. Hope he stays healthy. 

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    I can't wait til Anthony Schwartz adds a Tyreek Hill impact to the offense. Will take some time, but he has the skills, the smarts, the character/work ethic....

                       He won't just be a diversion from defenses double-covering Landry and OBJ. Should open up the passing lanes a bit for our TE's.

                    Should be an exciting football team. Football season is so far away.

                    I need to stock up on panfish fillets in the meantime....

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                      It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

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                        According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                        It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                        It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

                        Hope springs eternal. 

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                          It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

                          Hope springs eternal. 

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Hope springs eternal. 

                          I was disgusted with drafting waylin' braylon, had ZERO use for manziel, and all the way back to Jeremiah Pharms sp? I've been disgusted here and there.

                          I do think the last two drafts warrant consideration of character, work ethic,smarts  and love for the game.

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                            At present, the 10th highest QB contract is.. you guessed it, Ryan Tannehill.  The delta between the 10th highest and highest is over 15M.. aka the annual salary of Garrett through end of next year [goes up the last 3 yrs of contract].

                            Would you rather have a top-3 QB or.. the #10 QB and the #1 DE?  I'll take option 2 every day.

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                            @unsympathetic said:

                            At present, the 10th highest QB contract is.. you guessed it, Ryan Tannehill.  The delta between the 10th highest and highest is over 15M.. aka the annual salary of Garrett through end of next year [goes up the last 3 yrs of contract].

                            Would you rather have a top-3 QB or.. the #10 QB and the #1 DE?  I'll take option 2 every day.

                            Sounds like the Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith combo.

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              @unsympathetic said:

                              At present, the 10th highest QB contract is.. you guessed it, Ryan Tannehill.  The delta between the 10th highest and highest is over 15M.. aka the annual salary of Garrett through end of next year [goes up the last 3 yrs of contract].

                              Would you rather have a top-3 QB or.. the #10 QB and the #1 DE?  I'll take option 2 every day.

                              Sounds like the Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith combo.

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                              @ballpeen said:

                              Sounds like the Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith combo.

                              Jim Kelly was not the #10 overall QB during his era.

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                                @ballpeen said:

                                Sounds like the Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith combo.

                                Jim Kelly was not the #10 overall QB during his era.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Jim Kelly was not the #10 overall QB during his era.

                                Those 1983 guys would have been drafted like 1,2,3,4,5 these days

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                                  I can't wait til Anthony Schwartz adds a Tyreek Hill impact to the offense. Will take some time, but he has the skills, the smarts, the character/work ethic....

                                     He won't just be a diversion from defenses double-covering Landry and OBJ. Should open up the passing lanes a bit for our TE's.

                                  Should be an exciting football team. Football season is so far away.

                                  I need to stock up on panfish fillets in the meantime....

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                                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  Should be an exciting football team. Football season is so far away.

                                  I need to stock up on panfish fillets in the meantime....

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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    Sounds like the Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith combo.

                                    Jim Kelly was not the #10 overall QB during his era.

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                                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Jim Kelly was not the #10 overall QB during his era.

                                    I was speaking more in general terms.  I wasn't cracking the sport almanac.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                                      It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      According to cal every single player drafted by the Browns has skills, smarts and great character and work ethic.

                                      It's amazing how many Browns draft classes have been bad.

                                      Admittedly he isn't all that wrong.  The red-flags with major character concerns - Greg Little, Manziel, Callaway, etc etc... haven't seen those types of blunders with Young Barry.

                                      Edit: except the Manziel thing, don't let him fool you there.  He raved about that guy having the "it" factor.   

                                      still 1 of 2 ain't bad.

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                                        https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/18/pff-ranks-baker-mayfield-tenth-best-qb-heading-into-2021/

                                        Pro Football Focus has high expectations for Mayfield, ranking him as the tenth best quarterback for the 2021 season:

                                        Give Coach of the Year Kevin Stefanski a ton of credit for how he helped set up his quarterback for success. The Browns protected Mayfield early in the season, but when Stefanski opened up the playbook, Baker excelled. He was the second-highest-graded quarterback in the league from Week 7 through the playoffs. He also ranked in the top five from a clean pocket, on standard dropbacks and on early downs for the entire season — all of which are important and stable metrics.

                                        There are a couple of interesting names listed just ahead of Mayfield with Lamar Jackson and Matt Ryan ranked eighth and ninth. It will be interesting if Mayfield is able to build on his 2020 season will he threaten the top five of these kinds of lists?

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                                        10 is about right...

                                        I wonder who #3 was? 😁

                                        3.

                                        He led the league in overall passing grade (94.7) and passing grade on 20-plus-yard throws (99.5) in 2020 en route to taking home the MVP award.

                                        ******* is a stud, playing with timing and rhythm we haven’t seen from him in years. His average time to throw was his lowest in over a decade. The most impressive thing about ******* in 2020 was his patience with the offense and ability to let it work for him. He managed to stay on course and operate the attack while sprinkling in his playmaking ability. There is no doubt ***** *** is primed for a Super Bowl run, but that all depends on if the team can smooth over relations with *******.

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                                          https://www.brownsnation.com/baker-mayfield-ranked-among-best-deep-passers-in-nfl/

                                          Baker Mayfield Ranked Among Best Deep-Passers In NFL

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