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MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL -  October 11  -.  IND +7.5 at BAL 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #41

    I'm starting to think we collectively need to come to the realization that Lamar Jackson is very good. 

    Not prototypical, in some ways flawed, but still, a very good NFL player. 

  • WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on last edited by
    #42

    Almost threw up watching the end of this game. There goofy looking kicker sucks dick.

  • I'm starting to think we collectively need to come to the realization that Lamar Jackson is very good. 

    Not prototypical, in some ways flawed, but still, a very good NFL player. 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
    #43

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think we collectively need to come to the realization that Lamar Jackson is very good. 

    Not prototypical, in some ways flawed, but still, a very good NFL player. 

    Raiders had a good plan.  I saw a film breakdown right after that game.

    Gus Bradley charged the mesh point.  The unblocked defender would go right at Lamar forcing him to make a quicker decision (handoff, keep) and it hurried some of his throws too.  They also did a heavy dose of cover three.  Man coverage is the kiss of death against him.  It is assignment football nowadays you see a lack of discipline over the course of game where someone doesn’t do their assignment (trying to make a play outside of their assignment).
     

    That’s a very good description “very good football player” with not much a supporting cast now or even in years past. The Past couple years I thought he runs too much he’s going to get hurt.  He’s been healthy thus far.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think we collectively need to come to the realization that Lamar Jackson is very good. 

    Not prototypical, in some ways flawed, but still, a very good NFL player. 

    Raiders had a good plan.  I saw a film breakdown right after that game.

    Gus Bradley charged the mesh point.  The unblocked defender would go right at Lamar forcing him to make a quicker decision (handoff, keep) and it hurried some of his throws too.  They also did a heavy dose of cover three.  Man coverage is the kiss of death against him.  It is assignment football nowadays you see a lack of discipline over the course of game where someone doesn’t do their assignment (trying to make a play outside of their assignment).
     

    That’s a very good description “very good football player” with not much a supporting cast now or even in years past. The Past couple years I thought he runs too much he’s going to get hurt.  He’s been healthy thus far.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #44

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Raiders had a good plan.  I saw a film breakdown right after that game.

    Gus Bradley charged the mesh point.  The unblocked defender would go right at Lamar forcing him to make a quicker decision (handoff, keep) and it hurried some of his throws too.  They also did a heavy dose of cover three.  Man coverage is the kiss of death against him.  It is assignment football nowadays you see a lack of discipline over the course of game where someone doesn’t do their assignment (trying to make a play outside of their assignment).
     

    That’s a very good description “very good football player” with not much a supporting cast now or even in years past. The Past couple years I thought he runs too much he’s going to get hurt.  He’s been healthy thus far.

    He's put that team on his back and just keeps on winning. 

    I still have my doubts about him long-term, but right now you have to tip your cap to him. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think we collectively need to come to the realization that Lamar Jackson is very good. 

    Not prototypical, in some ways flawed, but still, a very good NFL player. 

    Raiders had a good plan.  I saw a film breakdown right after that game.

    Gus Bradley charged the mesh point.  The unblocked defender would go right at Lamar forcing him to make a quicker decision (handoff, keep) and it hurried some of his throws too.  They also did a heavy dose of cover three.  Man coverage is the kiss of death against him.  It is assignment football nowadays you see a lack of discipline over the course of game where someone doesn’t do their assignment (trying to make a play outside of their assignment).
     

    That’s a very good description “very good football player” with not much a supporting cast now or even in years past. The Past couple years I thought he runs too much he’s going to get hurt.  He’s been healthy thus far.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #45

    @sdbacker80 said:

    That’s a very good description “very good football player” with not much a supporting cast now or even in years past. The Past couple years I thought he runs too much he’s going to get hurt.  He’s been healthy thus far.

    Let's just look at two young quarterbacks in reality land and fantasy land head to head...... it's a good thing I had a good supporting cast.  

    4 vs 5 TDs ?    50 vs 48 ?

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  • @nickers said:

    It was prevent... Don't let him con you... Soft defense equates to prevent.. Just as the dead spirit of George Allen... Who authored the prevent D.. And Bill Arnsparger championed it.

    So defensive calls usually go...

    - front. 

    - gap assignment change (stunt, twist, slant)  if called.  If not, then just the front. 

    - coverage (and extra language for depth and alignment if applicable) 

    - receiver key and/or tag for certain personnel  (based on formation usually) 

    Then the defense communicates a series of checks depending on the looks they get - motion, empty, stack, trio, how far certain assignments may carry receivers, assignment swap.  Post snap you can get an under call, a (we called it) bounce ball against deep crossers,  key reads for man-match, etc etc.    Just constant communication for the best defenses.  

    So pretend you're a defense coordinator and you're calling in a play. Just say "prevent" and let me know how confused your defensive helmet looks trying to give that call to 10 other men.

    Is it a 7 or 8 man drop?  What kind of coverage?  What depth?  How do you want the front on a 3 man drop? 

    "Prevent" is a very vague term that is about as antiquated and inaccurate as 34/43 defense. 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #46

    @tiamat63 said:

    So defensive calls usually go...

    - front. 

    - gap assignment change (stunt, twist, slant)  if called.  If not, then just the front. 

    - coverage (and extra language for depth and alignment if applicable) 

    - receiver key and/or tag for certain personnel  (based on formation usually) 

    Then the defense communicates a series of checks depending on the looks they get - motion, empty, stack, trio, how far certain assignments may carry receivers, assignment swap.  Post snap you can get an under call, a (we called it) bounce ball against deep crossers,  key reads for man-match, etc etc.    Just constant communication for the best defenses.  

    So pretend you're a defense coordinator and you're calling in a play. Just say "prevent" and let me know how confused your defensive helmet looks trying to give that call to 10 other men.

    Is it a 7 or 8 man drop?  What kind of coverage?  What depth?  How do you want the front on a 3 man drop? 

    "Prevent" is a very vague term that is about as antiquated and inaccurate as 34/43 defense. 

    Thanks for the very technical definition. Many times in practice those types of defenses give up too many yards (and scores) trying to run out the clock.