Baker to Carolina

[Orion]

@mjp28 said:

Ben Volin of the Boston Globe proposed that a move swapping the two quarterbacks would be the best option for both teams.

So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.

[mjp28]

@orion said:

So then we'd have a $24 million problem instead of a $19 mil.

Might need some negotiating by both parties  to pull that off   -but-   it could be done.

I think Mayfield as a 49er would be a great fit for him and SF,  and having an experienced quarterback not named  DW or BM might come in very handy for Cleveland. 

Who knows what other deals are out there ???? 

[SdBacker80]

The only thing going for Baker… he is the better arm talent.

Jimmy G is an improvement. 

considering the media is going to suspend Watson for a year…brace yourself…I’d like a starting caliber QB with the talent we have 

[Orion]

@mjp28 said:

and having an experienced quarterback not named  DW or BM might come in very handy for Cleveland. 

The only way I see Garoppolo coming here is if we find out that Watson is suspended for the season, or at least most of the season.  They didn't even want to pay Keenum's 6 mil for the backup QB spot.  Remember, they've reworked the whole QB room to be Watson clones.  JG doesn't seem to match their new tact.  Having said that, if there's no Watson, then JG would be a better QB than our backups.  He's a Baker level QB.  

[SdBacker80]

@orion said:

The only way I see Garoppolo coming here is if we find out that Watson is suspended for the season, or at least most of the season.  They didn't even want to pay Keenum's 6 mil for the backup QB spot.  Remember, they've reworked the whole QB room to be Watson clones.  JG doesn't seem to match their new tact.  Having said that, if there's no Watson, then JG would be a better QB than our backups.  He's a Baker level QB.  

You don’t punt this upcoming season and run with jacoby Brissett.  Way too much talent to do that.

If Jimmy G played in a super bowl. He’s not Watson but he can guide a team to a playoff especially a team with pieces like we have 

[mjp28]

@sdbacker80 said:

The only thing going for Baker… he is the better arm talent.

Jimmy G is an improvement. 

]considering the media is going to suspend Watson for a year…brace yourself…I’d like a starting caliber QB with the talent we have 

Oh yes.  You'd like to have some kind of known talent at quarterback to start the regular season.   Geezz even a planned talent there at preseason to start things off.  

What a predicament to be in,    

[mjp28]

@orion said:

The only way I see Garoppolo coming here is if we find out that Watson is suspended for the season, or at least most of the season.  They didn't even want to pay Keenum's 6 mil for the backup QB spot.  Remember, they've reworked the whole QB room to be Watson clones.  JG doesn't seem to match their new tact.  Having said that, if there's no Watson, then JG would be a better QB than our backups.  He's a Baker level QB.  

Yes the FO thought that they got a franchise quarterback with this big deal.  

Instead they got a weirdo behind center.....no pun intended.   This might take more time to resolve itself maybe even with some last minute deal. 

Preseason starts August 4, regular season September 8,  the clock is ticking. 

[TexasAg1969]

Zombo said:

San Fran is in a different situation than us. They drafted a qb#3 overall last year, and they are committed to him.

We have a Super Bowl quality roster and Colby fucking Briskett at QB because we just royally fucked up a scenario featuring two franchise qbs who may never play for us again, $240M and all of our important draft picks for three years.

Z

It's all related to physics 101 somehow.  ?

https://www.britannica.com/science/Brownian-motion

[Korsou Dawg]

I'd be quite happy seeing him excused for the entire season.

[mjp28]

Zombo said:

San Fran is in a different situation than us. They drafted a qb#3 overall last year, and they are committed to him.

.....️......We have a Super Bowl quality roster and Colby fucking Briskett at QB because we just royally fucked up a scenario featuring two franchise qbs who may never play for us again, $240M and all of our important draft picks for three years.

Z

.....️ .....   The whole current situation summed up in one sentence. 

SO   now we sit and wait and hope somehow the legal process, which is always slow and methodical by design, can somehow rescue the BROWNS  out of this abysmal contract they are in because it may be void or voidable.

  (Briefly,  Depending on the contract and the specific terms and conditions it includes, you may have the option to back out of the contract within a certain period of time.)  

But good luck on that even after a possibly long court battle.

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AND  who do you hope will be the BROWNS  starting quarterback week 1 ?   

You must choose one :

A. Watson  B. Brisset  C. Mayfield  D. Other (specify one)

GO 2022 BROWNS !

[nickers]

@mjp28 said:

.....️ .....   The whole current situation summed up in one sentence. 

SO   now we sit and wait and hope somehow the legal process, which is always slow and methodical by design, can somehow rescue the BROWNS  out of this abysmal contract they are in because it may be void or voidable.

  (Briefly,  Depending on the contract and the specific terms and conditions it includes, you may have the option to back out of the contract within a certain period of time.)  

But good luck on that even after a possibly long court battle.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AND  who do you hope will be the BROWNS  starting quarterback week 1 ?   

You must choose one :

A. Watson  B. Brisset  C. Mayfield  D. Other (specify one)

GO 2022 BROWNS !

Mayfield...

[mjp28]

@nickers said:

Mayfield...

Probably the best bet.

[nickers]

@mjp28 said:

Probably the best bet.

No but that ship has sailed thanks to Al Berry Habibi..

[Canton Dawg]

@nickers said:

No but that ship has sailed thanks to Al Berry Habibi..

Dingle Berry

[gumby73]

@mjp28 said:

  You must choose one :

A. Watson  B. Brisset  C. Mayfield  D. Other (specify one)

Zombo said....San Fran is in a different situation than us.

A look at Kyle Shanahan before and after a Deshaun Watson trade.

Any Browns fans out there, feel they've aged the same? ?

    ghee Thanks Russ Wilson !

How bout Redskins former starting QB Taylor 

   but he might still beat out Carson Wentz...

yeah! your right.. a sweet barmaid had to cut me off at 9pm... ?  Good Night Merica

[TexasAg1969]

@gumby73 said:

  

yeah! your right.. a sweet barmaid had to cut me off at 9pm... ?  Good Night Merica

I'm not a bar guy at all, but after A&M went from the bottom of the SEC baseball conference last year to the top of the SEC West and first team to make it to the CWS in Omaha yesterday under their new HC, I was sorely tempted to become one in celebration.???

[mjp28]

Baseball ?  I thought we weren't supposed to mention baseball here.

But point made.   

[TexasAg1969]

@mjp28 said:

Baseball ?  I thought we weren't supposed to mention baseball here.

But point made.   

I was mentioning beer.  LOL!?

[mjp28]

June 11, 2022  heavy.com  (who?)

The Cleveland Browns are still looking for a trade partner willing to take on quarterback Baker Mayfield and the Minnesota Vikings have been mentioned as a possible landing spot for the former top pick.

The Vikings have Kirk Cousins installed as their current starter but there’s a new regime in town in Minnesota and his play hasn’t exactly made him untouchable. Dan Graziano of ESPN mentioned the Vikings as a possible player in the Mayfield sweepstakes, although it’d be more of a long-term play for the NFC North squad.

They’re set this season with Kirk Cousins but could move on from him after the year. This is an example of a place where Mayfield or Garoppolo wouldn’t start right away but could position himself as the team’s starter in 2023, the way Winston did with the Saints in 2020. That could be possible elsewhere, including with the Buccaneers, Eagles, Cardinals, Titans and Raiders.

[mjp28]

Cousins is coming off a year where he was named to the Pro Bowl as a replacement. He completed 66.3% of his passes last season for 4,221 yards and 33 touchdowns to only seven interceptions. The Vikings extended Cousins for an additional year this offseason. He will make $40 million this season and $30 million in 2023.

Still, there are consistent questions about Cousins being a difference-maker, with the 33-year-old holding a career record of 59-59-2.

Other off the radar teams mentioned by Graziano as potential landing spots for Mayfield included the Lions and Saints.

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Baker Mayfield Has Shown Potential as Starting Quarterback

Mayfield is coming off a down season but he’s shown his a potential starter in the NFL. He helped lead the Browns to their first playoff victory in 18 years back in 2020, passing for 3,563 yards, 26 touchdowns and just eight interceptions.

However, last year Mayfield took a step back, which could be attributed to a few different things including injuries and internal turmoil. He tossed 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions as the Browns stumbled to an 8-9 finish.

 

Mayfield’s play was ugly at times but the Oklahoma-product was playing through a torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder. He suffered the injury in Week 2 while attempting a tackle after an interception and wore a brace on his shoulder following the injury. He had surgery this offseason and is expected to be ready to roll for training camp.

What has prevented a Mayfield trade from happening is his fully guaranteed near $19 million salary for next season. The Browns hold little leverage in negotiations but are trying to take on as little of that as possible, although other teams around the league are not willing to help with that.

The closest the Browns got to a deal was with the Panthers during the draft. However, Carolina wanted the Browns to pay more than $13 million of Mayfield’s contract, according to The Charlotte Observer.

The Browns excused Mayfield from mandatory minicamp June 14-16, which means he’ll avoid some hefty fines. If he had sat out without the team’s consent, he would have owed $15,900 for Day 1, $31,961 for Day 2 and $47,936 for Day 3........more at heavy.com......