Baker to Carolina
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It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless.
It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless.
You sure you want to use Paul Brown as your example of how to treat your players?
It wasn't a secret that many of the Browns players who played under him hated his guts.
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It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless.
It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter.
You've gotta fast forward to the time we're in Po. There isn't even any rivalries anymore. (except in some fans - like us) Many players shuffle from team to team first to make a ton of money, then to try and win a championship...or just chase more $$. - We have DePodesta...the analytics guy. It's just not that league anymore.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Considering the competition where he's going, he has a good a chance to remain their starter. But then he will no longer have the Brown's OL protecting him so .................injury maybe?
So how many more career starts do you see in Baker?
59 so far.
So how many more career starts do you see in Baker?
59 so far.
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
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So how many more career starts do you see in Baker?
59 so far.
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
Um...
Baker Mayfield has started 59 games in his career.
How many more games do you think he will start in the rest of his career?
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It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter.
You've gotta fast forward to the time we're in Po. There isn't even any rivalries anymore. (except in some fans - like us) Many players shuffle from team to team first to make a ton of money, then to try and win a championship...or just chase more $$. - We have DePodesta...the analytics guy. It's just not that league anymore.
You've gotta fast forward to the time we're in Po. There isn't even any rivalries anymore. (except in some fans - like us) Many players shuffle from team to team first to make a ton of money, then to try and win a championship...or just chase more $$. - We have DePodesta...the analytics guy. It's just not that league anymore.
True. It's hard to compare eras or decades or even what have you done lately conferences or divisions . Even players don't have loyalties beyond their current contracts.
I've always believed that the true "Golden Years" of football was back in the 1960s and 1970s with the emergence of Pete Rozelle and the TV contracts, Monday Night Football and growth of "The Shield ", the growth of NFL Inc. It has done OK in the few decades since then but has changed a lot after the 2000s to the present day.
I think that the NFL is aware of the current situation with concussions, CTE, an aging and declining viewership and is addressing them. e younger age groups were having different interests and other issues and has addressed them -but- I believe they have lost a grip on the salaries and costs of running the teams.
Way back players had some loyalty to their teams now it's agents and contracts. "Shoe me the money" not team spirit and loyalty any more. Talk to my agent.
Let's hope that all sides in this professional football we like can keep it rolling.
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So how many more career starts do you see in Baker?
59 so far.
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
And through the draft, FAs or trades does the better young gun come along and Baker Mayfield becomes that veteran backup......I think this will become his path. He's not a franchise quarterback, never really was. Good yes but......
And 2½ years x 17 starts = about 42½ starts then no real guarantees going forward. My guess is about 55 +/- additional starts.
Besides he was a very well off 23 year old #1 overall pick NFL player with a few years of commercial work for a few extra millions here and there. He should be well off. Go check
️ it out.
Only one thing the drive for a ring or whatever goals he has left will keep him around.
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Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
And the other numbers from spotrac.....
Current Contract
Baker Mayfield signed a 4 year, $32,682,980 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $21,849,440 signing bonus, $32,682,980 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,170,745. In 2022, Mayfield will earn a base salary of $4,858,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,858,000 and a dead cap value of $5,000,000.
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Nothing but love for Baker Mayfield. Cleveland loves ya baby. Hopefully you can Lebron for us after you win one for Ole Carolina. I'll miss ya homie
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Baker will be just like Drew Breezy. He will win at least 3 Superbowls. It won't be for us though... maybe his third will be, eh; I can dream.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Uninjured I suspect he starts all games this year. But that's the catch. He' better'n who they have on the roster.
Um...
Baker Mayfield has started 59 games in his career.
How many more games do you think he will start in the rest of his career?
Um...
Baker Mayfield has started 59 games in his career.
How many more games do you think he will start in the rest of his career?
Karnak say he not very good seer of fortune today. Ran out of Browns Tea leaves.?
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You've gotta fast forward to the time we're in Po. There isn't even any rivalries anymore. (except in some fans - like us) Many players shuffle from team to team first to make a ton of money, then to try and win a championship...or just chase more $$. - We have DePodesta...the analytics guy. It's just not that league anymore.
True. It's hard to compare eras or decades or even what have you done lately conferences or divisions . Even players don't have loyalties beyond their current contracts.
I've always believed that the true "Golden Years" of football was back in the 1960s and 1970s with the emergence of Pete Rozelle and the TV contracts, Monday Night Football and growth of "The Shield ", the growth of NFL Inc. It has done OK in the few decades since then but has changed a lot after the 2000s to the present day.
I think that the NFL is aware of the current situation with concussions, CTE, an aging and declining viewership and is addressing them. e younger age groups were having different interests and other issues and has addressed them -but- I believe they have lost a grip on the salaries and costs of running the teams.
Way back players had some loyalty to their teams now it's agents and contracts. "Shoe me the money" not team spirit and loyalty any more. Talk to my agent.
Let's hope that all sides in this professional football we like can keep it rolling.
True. It's hard to compare eras or decades or even what have you done lately conferences or divisions . Even players don't have loyalties beyond their current contracts.
I've always believed that the true "Golden Years" of football was back in the 1960s and 1970s with the emergence of Pete Rozelle and the TV contracts, Monday Night Football and growth of "The Shield ", the growth of NFL Inc. It has done OK in the few decades since then but has changed a lot after the 2000s to the present day.
I think that the NFL is aware of the current situation with concussions, CTE, an aging and declining viewership and is addressing them. e younger age groups were having different interests and other issues and has addressed them -but- I believe they have lost a grip on the salaries and costs of running the teams.
Way back players had some loyalty to their teams now it's agents and contracts. "Shoe me the money" not team spirit and loyalty any more. Talk to my agent.
Let's hope that all sides in this professional football we like can keep it rolling.
Actually I think we have several players on this team who are throwbacks that wanted to stay Browns and could have gotten more $$ elsewhere.
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It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless.
It's not employer/employee...
Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless.
I don't know? I was just a young kid when Otto played. Tell me how it was since you know.
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I'll give Baker 70 more career starts, roughly four and a half full seasons worth of starts.
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I'd like to thank baker for digging us out of the basement.
He was good enough to get us to somewhat relevant and that's all.
Now it's time more on turning the page to a chapter of better than just relevant.
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I think this season will define how good/bad Baker really is.
If he has a good season (barring injury), I can see a contract being offered by Carolina or other team(s).
He could start another 4 or 5 years, which could be 68-85 games.
If he has a mediocre season, I can see him being relegated to a backup position somewhere.
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