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  • @mjp28 said:

    Marino was an anomaly with the Mark's Brothers running up those ungodly numbers there are other reasons why Marino  only had one good shot versus Super Joe Cool Montana. 

    Remember the commercial with Marino and Montana at the vending machine and Montana said  "you can get the next one"  or close to that ?  It never came about.  Montana got those opportunities. 

    Instead of Marino and SB Rings it should be Kelly, Fouts and the others wh9 should have to answer that question. 

    ......... " Montana and Marino went toe-to-toe in Super Bowl XIX,with the 49ers earning a 38-16 victory to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Marino went on to put up historic numbers for that era but never won the big one, while Montana went 4-0 in the big game and took home Super Bowl MVP honors three times. " .........

    ~And~

    ....... "With the 49ers and Dolphins set to play Sunday at Levi's Stadium, Montana thought it would be a good time to zing his old rival with a tweet featuring an old Diet Pepsi commercial both starred in. In the commercial, Montana buys Marino a soda and the Dolphins gunslinger vows to get the next round the following year.

    That apparently never happened." .........

    My point being... Even with an Elite QB... It does NOT guarantee SB victories...

    @nickers said:

    My point being... Even with an Elite QB... It does NOT guarantee SB victories...

    True.  But our Danny boy was an exceptional quarterback (even better with the Marks brothers)  and he doesn't guarantee a SB just like having an OK quarterback on an excellent team can still occasionally sneak one. 

    When anyone says .... "but how many SB Rings does Marino have".... you should include or substitute Kelly,  Fouts or others have.

    Without getting into minutiae about Marino and other like quarterbacks into boredom.      😴

  • @nickers said:

    My point being... Even with an Elite QB... It does NOT guarantee SB victories...

    True.  But our Danny boy was an exceptional quarterback (even better with the Marks brothers)  and he doesn't guarantee a SB just like having an OK quarterback on an excellent team can still occasionally sneak one. 

    When anyone says .... "but how many SB Rings does Marino have".... you should include or substitute Kelly,  Fouts or others have.

    Without getting into minutiae about Marino and other like quarterbacks into boredom.      😴

    @mjp28 said:

    True.  But our Danny boy was an exceptional quarterback (even better with the Marks brothers)  and he doesn't guarantee a SB just like having an OK quarterback on an excellent team can still occasionally sneak one. 

    When anyone says .... "but how many SB Rings does Marino have".... you should include or substitute Kelly,  Fouts or others have.

    Without getting into minutiae about Marino and other like quarterbacks into boredom.      😴

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

  • Nice...I love C 5's...here's my latest...'99, Nassau blue, just installed supercharger.

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  • @mjp28 said:

    True.  But our Danny boy was an exceptional quarterback (even better with the Marks brothers)  and he doesn't guarantee a SB just like having an OK quarterback on an excellent team can still occasionally sneak one. 

    When anyone says .... "but how many SB Rings does Marino have".... you should include or substitute Kelly,  Fouts or others have.

    Without getting into minutiae about Marino and other like quarterbacks into boredom.      😴

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    @nickers said:

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

  • @mjp28 said:

    True.  But our Danny boy was an exceptional quarterback (even better with the Marks brothers)  and he doesn't guarantee a SB just like having an OK quarterback on an excellent team can still occasionally sneak one. 

    When anyone says .... "but how many SB Rings does Marino have".... you should include or substitute Kelly,  Fouts or others have.

    Without getting into minutiae about Marino and other like quarterbacks into boredom.      😴

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    @nickers said:

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    Right again,  no new quarterback addition is a guarantee of a super bowl invitation any more than we and a large bunch of sports writers thought that the Cleveland Browns were a super bowl favorite in Mayfield's second year.

    Same thing they including I was sure they had a SB shot not a 6-10 season ahead. 

    And Watson may lose (suspended)  games and also if/when he ever hits the field still is carrying a boat  load of dirty laundry with him.  How it will affects his and the team's performance nobody knows yet.

    Will this just blow over I hope so. Any guarantee of DW's performance........none......absolutely none.  We all jall just have to wait and see.   2022 probably not.   2023 who knows. 

    GO BROWNS,  they still have a good team.  

  • @nickers said:

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

    And Ownership... THEY SUCK!

  • @mjp28 said:

    My '75 C3 in Corvette Orange.

    Back then I was a Camaro guy.  And quite poor.  I had a 6 cyl camaro, '69 I think, I'd go to the gas station to check the gas and fill the oil.  🙂  Burned and leaked the stuff.  But I DID land a '72 Camaro that didn't have good paint but was pretty nice everywhere else, including the 350 V8.  

    I always respected the vette back then as the American sports car icon that it was.  It was (and is) a staple at LeMans.  But the pencil thinness of it never really appealed to me.  Fast forward to the C5.  A wider stance.  Made all the difference IMO.  And it's stayed that way. 

    Now, they're trying to be a European supercar.  A little too over the top.  They haven't ruined it....but....gimme those symbolic 4 round tail lights any ol' day of the week.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Over the hill gang cars, lol.

      Oh go drift your Impreza.  🙂

    @orion said:

    Back then I was a Camaro guy.  And quite poor.  I had a 6 cyl camaro, '69 I think, I'd go to the gas station to check the gas and fill the oil.  🙂  Burned and leaked the stuff.  But I DID land a '72 Camaro that didn't have good paint but was pretty nice everywhere else, including the 350 V8.  

    I always respected the vette back then as the American sports car icon that it was.  It was (and is) a staple at LeMans.  But the pencil thinness of it never really appealed to me.  Fast forward to the C5.  A wider stance.  Made all the difference IMO.  And it's stayed that way. 

    Now, they're trying to be a European supercar.  A little too over the top.  They haven't ruined it....but....gimme those symbolic 4 round tail lights any ol' day of the week.

      Oh go drift your Impreza.  🙂

    Like this C3, not in my Corvette Orange that I had but .....nice !

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    ❤️.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Oh this Baker to Carolina thread is turning into a classic guitars and cars one.

    Partly what happens during the ....dreaded football dead zone.... from after the draft until real football begins again around the end of July to August 4 this year the HOF game......JUST 20 DAYS AWAY !.......

    ■  SO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS   NO   FIGHTING OR GAY STUFF.■.......     I guess we better move the Les Paul's and classic Corvette beautiful pictures to the  BARBER SHOP FORUM.

    And before they get lost forever.   mjp

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  • ........ SEE YOU ALL OVER THERE ........

    REMEMBER PRESEASON FOOTBALL STARTS IN JUST      -20-      MORE DAYS !   CAN'T WAIT  !

    GO BROWNS  !

  • @nickers said:

    I get that.. I'm just saying... Theres a bunch of Numbskulls printing SB tickets and this POS hasn't taken one snap for us... Ya know.. It's cool to be enthusiastic and all..  I just wish people would temper that with some plain ol' common sense...

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

    Ya, quick let's go through another head coach. That's always worked out peachy keen.?

  • @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes, nothing like a vette.  My '75 C3 in Corvette Orange.

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    Over the hill gang cars, lol.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Over the hill gang cars, lol.

    And the car she'll never let me have despite the fact it has the highest crash scores out there. I like the RF version with the fold in hard top. The ole lady is the one over the hill, not me.?

    https://www.caranddriver.com/mazda/mx-5-miata

  • Oh yes, nothing like a vette.  My '75 C3 in Corvette Orange.

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    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes, nothing like a vette.  My '75 C3 in Corvette Orange.

    1975_chevrolet_corvette_16022432328a42a7ce4081975-Corvette-L-82-79.jpg

    fan should have stopped at buying a jersey ? 

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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Right!

    I think we still have a couple of weaknesses on the team. One being the interior of the DL, and the other being the Head Coach.

    Ya, quick let's go through another head coach. That's always worked out peachy keen.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ya, quick let's go through another head coach. That's always worked out peachy keen.?

    Shitpantski B L O W S!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Ya, quick let's go through another head coach. That's always worked out peachy keen.?

    Shitpantski B L O W S!

    @nickers said:

    Shitpantski B L O W S!

    But my point was if we go through another so quickly, then how the hell does anyone expect a decent coach would even consider the Browns?

  • @nickers said:

    Shitpantski B L O W S!

    But my point was if we go through another so quickly, then how the hell does anyone expect a decent coach would even consider the Browns?

    @texasag1969 said:

    But my point was if we go through another so quickly, then how the hell does anyone expect a decent coach would even consider the Browns?

    Define “decent coach”.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    But my point was if we go through another so quickly, then how the hell does anyone expect a decent coach would even consider the Browns?

    Define “decent coach”.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Define “decent coach”.

    Well this one at least got us a playoff win. Do you think we would find another to go beyond that?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Define “decent coach”.

    Well this one at least got us a playoff win. Do you think we would find another to go beyond that?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well this one at least got us a playoff win. Do you think we would find another to go beyond that?

    I started to question Stefanski’s play calling during the second Steelers game last year.

    He decided to get our hobbled QB sacked 9 times during the game, while abandoning the running game….against the worst run defense in the NFL.

    Try to circle that square.

  • It is tough comparing stats from 20 and 40 years ago. The thought processes of the game have changed. The offenses have changed. The protection of the QB have changed. 
     
    I believe Baker should forever have a special place in the hearts of Browns' fans. He helped get the Browns back to playoff status. The high expectations of build now, win now have reached the NFL. Instant Conference Championships are expected; no more four year windows. I believe he reached his potential. 
     
    Baker's weaknesses are significant. When it absolutely had to be done, most of the time it did not happen. He did not rise to the occasion in high pressure situations. Plus, the way the season unfolded last year did not help.
     
    After Week 5, many were thinking, the Browns were 2 plays, and a horrible DPI away from being 5-0 and considered the best team in the AFC. After Week 9, many were still thinking, 5-4 the ship has been righted, favorable second half schedule, win the Division, get a home playoff game, maybe two and take what's ours!
     
    The next month was a disaster. Getting drubbed by New England. Eeking out the win vs the Lions. Playing like garbage in Baltimore and still feeling the game should have been won. Then barely beating Baltimore but trying to be optimistic because a win vs the Raiders would be two in a row, 8-6, finish strong and win the Division. 
     
    Instead, they piss away the Raider game, are at .500 and having to go to GB and Pittsburgh.
     
    I felt, after the Packer game, exactly how I felt after the first Ravens game. The big play can't be made, the comeback drive can't be put together and there was still a chance to win.
     
    There was never really a point in the season, where the hounds could be called off, the season could be cashed in and the decision could be made to get Baker surgery and prepare for 2022. I do not remember the tie-breakers needed to the inside straight but there was still a slim playoff chance going into Week 18.
     
    The Front Office fumbled this thing horribly and the lack of vetting the entire Watson situation is apparent. I'm no Baker fan boy, but he brought a level of long term excitement that Browns fans had no felt in 25 years, if only for a short period of time. His mouth and his antics write checks that his abilities cannot cash. 
     
    I'll only root for him when the Browns need his opponent to lose, but I do think he has earned a quick standing ovation from the Browns fans in Carolina in Week 1.
  • @texasag1969 said:

    Well this one at least got us a playoff win. Do you think we would find another to go beyond that?

    I started to question Stefanski’s play calling during the second Steelers game last year.

    He decided to get our hobbled QB sacked 9 times during the game, while abandoning the running game….against the worst run defense in the NFL.

    Try to circle that square.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I started to question Stefanski’s play calling during the second Steelers game last year.

    He decided to get our hobbled QB sacked 9 times during the game, while abandoning the running game….against the worst run defense in the NFL.

    Try to circle that square.

    I understand all that but the question still remains, who will come to Jimmy's revolving door that is the Browns?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I started to question Stefanski’s play calling during the second Steelers game last year.

    He decided to get our hobbled QB sacked 9 times during the game, while abandoning the running game….against the worst run defense in the NFL.

    Try to circle that square.

    I understand all that but the question still remains, who will come to Jimmy's revolving door that is the Browns?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I understand all that but the question still remains, who will come to Jimmy's revolving door that is the Browns?

    The HC position in the NFL is a very lucrative one.

    Who would coach the Browns?

    I would say plenty of aspiring OC and DC’s alike.

    BTW, there’s plenty of teams that have a revolving door at the HC position…Raiders, Giants, Commanders, Jets all come to mind.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I understand all that but the question still remains, who will come to Jimmy's revolving door that is the Browns?

    The HC position in the NFL is a very lucrative one.

    Who would coach the Browns?

    I would say plenty of aspiring OC and DC’s alike.

    BTW, there’s plenty of teams that have a revolving door at the HC position…Raiders, Giants, Commanders, Jets all come to mind.

    @canton-dawg said:

    The HC position in the NFL is a very lucrative one.

    Who would coach the Browns?

    I would say plenty of aspiring OC and DC’s alike.

    BTW, there’s plenty of teams that have a revolving door at the HC position…Raiders, Giants, Commanders, Jets all come to mind.

    I think you just made my case for me. Look how good those teams are.