Browns cuts to 53
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I actually have to disagree here. Teams give up on draft picks, and they should. Good teams do it all the time. You are thinking about the Browns of 5-15 years ago when the coaches and or front office was always turning over, so maybe then we gave up in some players to early because they were not the new regimes "guys". But with our front office stable we should get rid of people quickly if they are not worthy. We have much better talent and depth now. Does it make sense that Mike Harley is on the practice squad for example and Swartz is on the active roster. One played well during the preseason the other looked terrible. So who else with talent is not even on the team because we kept a guy who can't catch the ball?
Are you old even to remember Braylon Edwards well? Receivers who don't catch the ball need to go! Really catching the ball is most of their job. They can run a good route, use speed etc but if they don't catch the ball than it doesn't matter what else they do. Bill Belicheck wouldn't keep him around with him dropping balls like that.Corey coleman didn't make it 2 seasons here... Dorsey knew when to pull the plug...
Corey coleman didn't make it 2 seasons here...
He was part of our 3 Thug Receiver set. Him and his buddies beat somebody up one time. Another was in some fraud scheme of some sort. Credit cards maybe. And perhaps the 3rd was Josh Gordon? It was a while ago now.
Coleman has done some stints on practice squads. I think the Giants tried to get some use out of him.
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To be fair Flugs, JOK is a speed guy who Berry brought in that looked very, very good last year, and could easily be on that list of talented players.
But yes, Schwartz is only here because the guys who drafted him are still in charge.
thing is (not that i like schwartz) is that we do not give up on are draft picks as past regimes did I mean it can be hard enough to hit on your picks but to just give up on them and not to develop them is it any wonder why we sucked for so long
thing is (not that i like schwartz) is that we do not give up on are draft picks as past regimes did I mean it can be hard enough to hit on your picks but to just give up on them and not to develop them is it any wonder why we sucked for so long
u cannot teach a guy how to catch a ball at his age. You either have the hands or you don't.
Schwartz is a back burner project at best, he doesn't contribute anything to this team. He is not a good fit for this team. He is a better fit for someone like KC who has a wealth of talent and a franchise QB like Mahommes that they can bury him on the depth chart and try to develope him. Our QB situation is up in the air right now and we need as much contributors as possible. I seriously don't understand this front office. You keep a guy like Schwartz but cut Rosen who outplayed the designated Starter and then bring in ANOTHER qb. I thought Rosen played well enough to earn a spot and I wanted to see more of him. I just have a really bad feeling about this season.
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Glad we all like John Kelly. Glad he's gainfully employed with us. But he needs a lot of bad stuff to happen to our RB room if he's gonna wear a uniform on Sundays.
Glad we all like John Kelly. Glad he's gainfully employed with us. But he needs a lot of bad stuff to happen to our RB room if he's gonna wear a uniform on Sundays.
Or he needs Berry to get off his ass and trade one of the two backs with 1 year left of their contracts and extend the other.
Berry is starting to lose a little luster IMO.
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Dammit, I should probably change that ?
I dunno, that kinda had keeper written all over it. I gotta stop thinking I can drink beverages anywhere near the laptop.
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Glad we all like John Kelly. Glad he's gainfully employed with us. But he needs a lot of bad stuff to happen to our RB room if he's gonna wear a uniform on Sundays.
Or he needs Berry to get off his ass and trade one of the two backs with 1 year left of their contracts and extend the other.
Berry is starting to lose a little luster IMO.
Berry is starting to lose a little luster IMO.
agreed ! Trading for Watson// may have strapped his 2022 cap to roll into next season? Maybe Berry is still getting some other teams GM's trade backlash ? but there's some nice vet FA's still on the market.. Or are they?
Quietly.. Berry in 3 season's, has taken Dorsey's mixed nucleus of vets.. to hope on
Berry has critics as not being good on his mid-round drafting.. He's got a strong chance to prove them wrong with this 2022 draft class..
Berry better get use to this ^^
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Berry is starting to lose a little luster IMO.
agreed ! Trading for Watson// may have strapped his 2022 cap to roll into next season? Maybe Berry is still getting some other teams GM's trade backlash ? but there's some nice vet FA's still on the market.. Or are they?
Quietly.. Berry in 3 season's, has taken Dorsey's mixed nucleus of vets.. to hope on
Berry has critics as not being good on his mid-round drafting.. He's got a strong chance to prove them wrong with this 2022 draft class..
Berry better get use to this ^^
agreed ! Trading for Watson// may have strapped his 2022 cap to roll into next season? Maybe Berry is still getting some other teams GM's trade backlash ? but there's some nice vet FA's still on the market.. Or are they?
Quietly.. Berry in 3 season's, has taken Dorsey's mixed nucleus of vets.. to hope on
Berry has critics as not being good on his mid-round drafting.. He's got a strong chance to prove them wrong with this 2022 draft class..
Berry better get use to this ^^
Berry has a massive ego problem and holds on to shit draft choices like Schwarts too long.. Haven't you noticed all 24 of Berry's picks are still on the team? At least John Dorsey traded off Corey Coleman realizing he was SHIT!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
agreed ! Trading for Watson// may have strapped his 2022 cap to roll into next season? Maybe Berry is still getting some other teams GM's trade backlash ? but there's some nice vet FA's still on the market.. Or are they?
Quietly.. Berry in 3 season's, has taken Dorsey's mixed nucleus of vets.. to hope on
Berry has critics as not being good on his mid-round drafting.. He's got a strong chance to prove them wrong with this 2022 draft class..
Berry better get use to this ^^
Berry has a massive ego problem and holds on to shit draft choices like Schwarts too long.. Haven't you noticed all 24 of Berry's picks are still on the team? At least John Dorsey traded off Corey Coleman realizing he was SHIT!
Berry has a massive ego problem and holds on to shit draft choices like Schwarts too long.. Haven't you noticed all 24 of Berry's picks are still on the team? At least John Dorsey traded off Corey Coleman realizing he was SHIT!
What real choice do you/we have? not'a
translation..Berry looks to give his draftee's a NFL 3rd season look? (might take all of 1- 3 real games?).. John Dorsey had the nutz to cut Cory Coleman on a Aug. 6th in 2018 ..
Dorsey's bold statement on Sashi... "Sashi didn't get real players" fans just get the sparkler excuses // I would of had paid Fuller or TY after Schwartz PS game 2.. but than again, seeing WR David Bell play in PS game 3? could make me just as wrong?
I'll take the new path of DB/Woods III can take stone-hands spot.. Stef controls who will play
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agreed ! Trading for Watson// may have strapped his 2022 cap to roll into next season? Maybe Berry is still getting some other teams GM's trade backlash ? but there's some nice vet FA's still on the market.. Or are they?
Quietly.. Berry in 3 season's, has taken Dorsey's mixed nucleus of vets.. to hope on
Berry has critics as not being good on his mid-round drafting.. He's got a strong chance to prove them wrong with this 2022 draft class..
Berry better get use to this ^^
Berry has a massive ego problem and holds on to shit draft choices like Schwarts too long.. Haven't you noticed all 24 of Berry's picks are still on the team? At least John Dorsey traded off Corey Coleman realizing he was SHIT!
Berry has a massive ego problem and holds on to shit draft choices like Schwarts too long.. Haven't you noticed all 24 of Berry's picks are still on the team? At least John Dorsey traded off Corey Coleman realizing he was SHIT!
Yeah, I don't mind if there's young lineman on either side of the ball getting developed or a sensible game day workload rotation. Keep in mind, we have an elite RG (Teller) today that was in the developmental stages (not starting) when he was on his 1st team in Buffalo before Dorsey traded for him. Unless they're 1st round picks on offense, defensive linemen tend to crack starting rotations quicker even if it's not a huge workload per say.
If Berry thinks all someone like Schwartz needs is good coaching in order to Dr Frankenstein him up into someone our AFC North opponents can't compete with - our OWNER hasn't learned a thing! Today, he still doesn't even look like a football player. He just looks like someone that can run straight ahead really fast. He's not running routes with his eyes open. If he is, he's not spotting the football very well or aware of where the possible DBs are that he should be adjusting his route because of. This preseason, he looks more lost than any/all of the newcomers to this team.
My worry is there is going to be a really short fuse in our fanbase with many of the symptoms (coaches/coordinators) as opposed to the problem (Berry). For example, square pegging a round hole into the starting line-up of our passing game because he wants to be right about his epic reach with Schwartz at WR at the expense of developing better football players with more upside. When a QB has to depend on a WR that can't catch or read/see the coverage or run the correct route (all inter-related) - building trust in that WR becomes impossible. Somehow the "yeah but he's really fast" is a million miles away from relevance to helping this passing game.
Let's just hope my gut is wrong here...
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thing is (not that i like schwartz) is that we do not give up on are draft picks as past regimes did I mean it can be hard enough to hit on your picks but to just give up on them and not to develop them is it any wonder why we sucked for so long
u cannot teach a guy how to catch a ball at his age. You either have the hands or you don't.
Schwartz is a back burner project at best, he doesn't contribute anything to this team. He is not a good fit for this team. He is a better fit for someone like KC who has a wealth of talent and a franchise QB like Mahommes that they can bury him on the depth chart and try to develope him. Our QB situation is up in the air right now and we need as much contributors as possible. I seriously don't understand this front office. You keep a guy like Schwartz but cut Rosen who outplayed the designated Starter and then bring in ANOTHER qb. I thought Rosen played well enough to earn a spot and I wanted to see more of him. I just have a really bad feeling about this season.
Schwartz is a back burner project at best, he doesn't contribute anything to this team. He is not a good fit for this team. He is a better fit for someone like KC who has a wealth of talent and a franchise QB like Mahommes that they can bury him on the depth chart and try to develope him. Our QB situation is up in the air right now and we need as much contributors as possible. I seriously don't understand this front office. You keep a guy like Schwartz but cut Rosen who outplayed the designated Starter and then bring in ANOTHER qb. I thought Rosen played well enough to earn a spot and I wanted to see more of him. I just have a really bad feeling about this season.
Rosen played against the 3rd team defenses in his games. And Brissett only played just over one quarter and without Jerome Ford who played so well in the other games. Dobbs played against first and second team guys and easily played the best. Rosen is exactly where he should be (on the practice squad).
“The Wait Is Over, The Browns Will Be In The Playoffs This Year!" -
Schwartz is a back burner project at best, he doesn't contribute anything to this team. He is not a good fit for this team. He is a better fit for someone like KC who has a wealth of talent and a franchise QB like Mahommes that they can bury him on the depth chart and try to develope him. Our QB situation is up in the air right now and we need as much contributors as possible. I seriously don't understand this front office. You keep a guy like Schwartz but cut Rosen who outplayed the designated Starter and then bring in ANOTHER qb. I thought Rosen played well enough to earn a spot and I wanted to see more of him. I just have a really bad feeling about this season.
Rosen played against the 3rd team defenses in his games. And Brissett only played just over one quarter and without Jerome Ford who played so well in the other games. Dobbs played against first and second team guys and easily played the best. Rosen is exactly where he should be (on the practice squad).
Rosen played against the 3rd team defenses in his games.
...and with the 3rd string offense.
In theory, we have 5 QB's.
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...and with the 3rd string offense.
In theory, we have 5 QB's.
That's an important point when someone says he did it against a 3rd string - because he's also throwing to 3rd string guys that probably won't make the team. It nullifies the perceived advantage or at least it should.
Then again we're talking about the Cleveland Browns who are tentatively scheduled to realize they are in a passing era on December 4th of this year. For now, Andrew Berry has a school-girl crush on Schwartz so I didn't see any advantage the current starting QB sentenced to him had over Rosen throwing to guys on the 3rd string.
Along the same line, is Josh Dobbs really this good all of a sudden? Or, is he just a beneficiary of guys that actually know how to run routes, get open, and (above all) catch passes that hit their hands?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
In theory, we have 5 QB's.
I'm guessing they have a plan?
Watson suspended
Bissette named starter
Dobbs wants Bissette' starting job
Mond inactive weekly? (cost a 53 spot/but roster protected)
Rosen most likely candidate to not get plucked from PS?
2 horse race to starter.. 2 horse race to inactive list
staying tuned
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Schwartz is a back burner project at best, he doesn't contribute anything to this team. He is not a good fit for this team. He is a better fit for someone like KC who has a wealth of talent and a franchise QB like Mahommes that they can bury him on the depth chart and try to develope him. Our QB situation is up in the air right now and we need as much contributors as possible. I seriously don't understand this front office. You keep a guy like Schwartz but cut Rosen who outplayed the designated Starter and then bring in ANOTHER qb. I thought Rosen played well enough to earn a spot and I wanted to see more of him. I just have a really bad feeling about this season.
Rosen played against the 3rd team defenses in his games. And Brissett only played just over one quarter and without Jerome Ford who played so well in the other games. Dobbs played against first and second team guys and easily played the best. Rosen is exactly where he should be (on the practice squad).
Rosen is exactly where he should be (on the practice squad).
I agree. We need to remember, this is already his 5th season so if he doesn't start showing more consistency soon - he may be running out of NFL practice squad opportunities.
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...and with the 3rd string offense.
In theory, we have 5 QB's.
That's an important point when someone says he did it against a 3rd string - because he's also throwing to 3rd string guys that probably won't make the team. It nullifies the perceived advantage or at least it should.
Then again we're talking about the Cleveland Browns who are tentatively scheduled to realize they are in a passing era on December 4th of this year. For now, Andrew Berry has a school-girl crush on Schwartz so I didn't see any advantage the current starting QB sentenced to him had over Rosen throwing to guys on the 3rd string.
Along the same line, is Josh Dobbs really this good all of a sudden? Or, is he just a beneficiary of guys that actually know how to run routes, get open, and (above all) catch passes that hit their hands?
Along the same line, is Josh Dobbs really this good all of a sudden? Or, is he just a beneficiary of guys that actually know how to run routes, get open, and (above all) catch passes that hit their hands?
Excellent question. But to me the answer is that the ball arrives where it's supposed to arrive on time. I think he's just playing better myself, but we'll know soon enough if Brissett gets lifted for Dobbs to come in if we fail to move the ball due to QB issues.
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In theory, we have 5 QB's.
I'm guessing they have a plan?
Watson suspended
Bissette named starter
Dobbs wants Bissette' starting job
Mond inactive weekly? (cost a 53 spot/but roster protected)
Rosen most likely candidate to not get plucked from PS?
2 horse race to starter.. 2 horse race to inactive list
staying tuned
I'm guessing they have a plan?
Watson suspended
Bissette named starter
Dobbs wants Bissette' starting job
Mond inactive weekly? (cost a 53 spot/but roster protected)
Rosen most likely candidate to not get plucked from PS?
2 horse race to starter.. 2 horse race to inactive list
staying tuned
Dobbs is looking a lot like he looked at UT. Very good at times; but the better opponents exposed his vulnerabilities. When that happened, he stopped looking to throw when he got outside of the pocket. The more he repeated it, the more teams noticed on film there was less risk for DBs to worry about him seeing anyone getting behind them.
Am I wrong to be more worried about the WR Corps and their ability to help whoever is playing QB? In my lifetime following the NFL/Browns, in order for backup QBs to achieve and sustain success - everyone has to step up their game. Does the WR Corps offer this to whoever will be starting at QB until week 12? Do we have 1 WR other than Cooper that could even start for Ohio State right now? I don't really get the feeling they trust DPJ - but he can only be as good as they allow him to be. I think he has some untapped goodies I'd like to see more of. I think Bell can be a very good WR if/when he gets the reps and experience.
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...and with the 3rd string offense.
In theory, we have 5 QB's.
That's an important point when someone says he did it against a 3rd string - because he's also throwing to 3rd string guys that probably won't make the team. It nullifies the perceived advantage or at least it should.
Then again we're talking about the Cleveland Browns who are tentatively scheduled to realize they are in a passing era on December 4th of this year. For now, Andrew Berry has a school-girl crush on Schwartz so I didn't see any advantage the current starting QB sentenced to him had over Rosen throwing to guys on the 3rd string.
Along the same line, is Josh Dobbs really this good all of a sudden? Or, is he just a beneficiary of guys that actually know how to run routes, get open, and (above all) catch passes that hit their hands?
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Not great. Conklin not ready for wk1.
Browns sign Joe Haeg. Joe Haeg performance -- this is actually decent
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2 PS spots remain unfilled..
No 53 man cut has been announced to add T/G Joe Haeg.. Nor has Conklin officially been ruled out of week 1
Cabot confirms a 2nd signing..
5:45 PM · Sep 4, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotConfirming #Browns have agreed to terms on a 1 year deal with TE Jesse JamesConklin back on 4 week IR? or 2 on 53, move to PS?as of Sunday.. 2 adds need room to come inPRACTICE SQUAD PS 56 Allen, Dakota LB 17 Baldwin, Daylen WR 86 Forristall, Miller TE 82 Harley Jr., Mike WR 57 Hoffman, Brock OC PS 49 Jolly, Shaun CB 41 Kelly Jr., John RB 29 Miller, Herb CB 60 Moore, David DT 64 Perry II, Roderick DT PS 81 Mitchell-Paden, Zaire TE 98 Rochell, Isaac DE 19 Rosen, Josh QB 70 Taylor, Alex OT -
2 PS spots remain unfilled..
No 53 man cut has been announced to add T/G Joe Haeg.. Nor has Conklin officially been ruled out of week 1
Cabot confirms a 2nd signing..
5:45 PM · Sep 4, 2022·Twitter for iPhoneMary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotConfirming #Browns have agreed to terms on a 1 year deal with TE Jesse JamesConklin back on 4 week IR? or 2 on 53, move to PS?as of Sunday.. 2 adds need room to come inPRACTICE SQUAD PS 56 Allen, Dakota LB 17 Baldwin, Daylen WR 86 Forristall, Miller TE 82 Harley Jr., Mike WR 57 Hoffman, Brock OC PS 49 Jolly, Shaun CB 41 Kelly Jr., John RB 29 Miller, Herb CB 60 Moore, David DT 64 Perry II, Roderick DT PS 81 Mitchell-Paden, Zaire TE 98 Rochell, Isaac DE 19 Rosen, Josh QB 70 Taylor, Alex OT
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