2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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Just 11 pages of smoke damage
Last draft season.. Martin Emerson was the browns 1st pick at pick #68
so what could be so bad about starting at pick #74 & keeping pick #98 ? ( I was trading #98 a 4th & 5th to get as high as pick #72 in draft sims)
still some gems that could be found.. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023
Just 11 pages of smoke damage
Last draft season.. Martin Emerson was the browns 1st pick at pick #68
so what could be so bad about starting at pick #74 & keeping pick #98 ? ( I was trading #98 a 4th & 5th to get as high as pick #72 in draft sims)
still some gems that could be found.. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023
Yes, some gems can obviously be found in the later rounds, but the odds decline.
Eventually the Browns will find themselves cutting good players because of the cap, and they need to fill those spots with young, cheaper drafted players.
Starting in the third round in successive years is a tough way to ensure that. The problem is the current front office has to know that if they don't make the playoffs again this year, they won't have to worry about being in Cleveland in 2024.
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The #42 pick is gonzo, making the Jack Campbell vs Mazi Smith debate a moo point.
The #42 pick is gonzo, making the Jack Campbell vs Mazi Smith debate a moo point.
FWIW: Campbell still being mocked to us post Moore trade.
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Well now that RB D'Ernest Johnson has left the Browns we can be open to drafting one of the fastest RB's ever as BPA. Who you ask? Why none other than .....................................wait for it..................................?
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Want to see a little stamina? How about 200m?
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I was the silly goose
That'll never NOT make me think about South Park.
That'll never NOT make me think about South Park.
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Brian Meany says:Watson is a serial sexual deviant. That the Browns sold there soul to get in bed with him is…well so Brownish of them.
You got what you paid for…a average QB with massive personal problems.
The future is not so bright for the Browns." -
I'm not sure what is funnier.
1. How triggered cal is now
2. How desperate cal is to "get even" with tia because of this
3. How obvious it is that tia doesn't care
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I'm not sure what is funnier.
1. How triggered cal is now
2. How desperate cal is to "get even" with tia because of this
3. How obvious it is that tia doesn't care
I'm not sure what is funnier.
1. How triggered cal is now
2. How desperate cal is to "get even" with tia because of this
3. How obvious it is that tia doesn't care
Careful now. You're about to get spammed with 4 straight messages answered by no one other than cal. LOL! Modus Operandi.
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The database did update some possible new targets at each pick..
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/nfl-draft-targets-2023?team=CLE not to exclude some others..
Felt bad for the USC player that tore his ACL at the Combine.. but, to fall from a late 1st round pick into the 3rd-4th round?
IOL | USC -
Take good info from anywhere.. who needs linemen?
Two mid-round Tackles to look further into( Wills ).. to big Blake Freeland & Carter Warren ?
See bottom of this link, to check out many on tape & Player Profiles..
https://steelersdepot.com/2023/03/2023-nfl-draft-player-profiles-byu-ot-blake-freeland/
edit 3-25- updated guardrails board
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Just went grocery shopping and stumbled upon a trusty Lindy's Pro Football Draft Guide.
Let the mock draft shenanigans begin! ?
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Just went grocery shopping and stumbled upon a trusty Lindy's Pro Football Draft Guide.
Let the mock draft shenanigans begin! ?
Just went grocery shopping and stumbled upon a trusty Lindy's Pro Football Draft Guide.
Let the mock draft shenanigans begin! ?
Nice! Looking forward to it!!!
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Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
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Here it is. I used the projected rounds on the draft prospects as a template.
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Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
Great job with that Dutch! If we get Jack Campbell - you get a 12 pack of your favorite beer on me. If we also get Benton, you can add one of those delicious looking pizzas you shared pictures of 2-3 months ago. Those will be gems at that stage of the draft. Let's have some fun with this stuff!
I'll try to put one together by next weekend.
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Browns target DE with potential in ESPN mock
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/3/28/23660028/nfl-mock-draft-cleveland-browns-target-yaya-diaby-espn-mock
Jim Nagy@JimNagyOUMost overlooked freaky thing from #NFLCombine Day 1 is Louisville DL YaYa Diaby’s 1.56 10-yard split at 263 lbs.
Georgia OLB Nolan Smith’s 1.52 10-yard is highly impressive but he’s 25 lbs lighter.
Diaby’s explosive take-off is ELITE for his size.
And he had 9 sacks this year.
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@korsou-dawg funny you bring him up. I was in a discussion about the Browns possibly being interested in him as a certain Lukas Van Ness lite, type option.
A player who can kick inside on sub packages and gap shoot. He lacks technique, but his burst Is incredible.
Good find, glad someone else is bringing his name up.
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@korsou-dawg funny you bring him up. I was in a discussion about the Browns possibly being interested in him as a certain Lukas Van Ness lite, type option.
A player who can kick inside on sub packages and gap shoot. He lacks technique, but his burst Is incredible.
Good find, glad someone else is bringing his name up.
@korsou-dawg funny you bring him up. I was in a discussion about the Browns possibly being interested in him as a certain Lukas Van Ness lite, type option.
A player who can kick inside on sub packages and gap shoot. He lacks technique, but his burst Is incredible.
Good find, glad someone else is bringing his name up.
CBS Sports has us taking YaYa as our first pick.
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Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
We interrupt all intelligent conversation with Flugel's Can't Quit My Day Job Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74) ILB Daiyan Henley, Washington State 6'1" 230lbs
LBer isn't a need but this defense could use an X-factor to force and get us turnovers. It might have been a bit premature - but when I shared his highlights I wrote this might be my favorite guy in the whole draft. In that video, from the very 1st play of him causing a turnover while a guy was being tackled - this guy is everywhere. He's explosive and he flies to the football. Even better, he's on time to the extent he stifles the point of attack. At the time of my 1st impression - I had no idea @tiamat63 was already breaking down film of him and he was impressed.
3rd Round (#98) DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4" 312lbs
Started and held his own as a true freshman as a Nose Tackle after finishing his high school wrestling career 48-2. It's very rare for a player at Wisconsin to start all 4 years in that program like Benton did. He projects well in a 3-4 or a 4-3 which won't surprise anyone that has seen him play. Great vision and reliable tackler. Keeps a pad height that enables good leverage. He's a good lateral mover that can be utilized in stunts. Would look really good in orange and brown lining up next to Tomlinson.
4th Round (#111) LT Ryan Hayes, Michigan 6'6" 301lbs
Former high school basketball player and pitcher was recruited as a 6'6" TE at 271lbs before being moved to OL. His biggest weakness is very short arms for a guy with his height. Probably won't replace Wills immediately or at all this year. BUT, he could line up as a dual purpose TE to the left of Wills in some double tight formations to get his feet wet helping to set the edge. This is a very tough, hard nosed kid that will battle.
4th Round (#126) OG/C Steve Avila, TCU 6'4" 330lbs
Team Captain for an offense Michigan couldn't stop in the BCS playoff game. Was actually a 2 year Captain. Versatile enough to play all positions but LT - eventually settled in as a Center in 2021 and then LG in 2022. Very powerful. Seems like the type of player Callahan would love to coach. While the Browns are currently strong at OG and Pocic was a nice acquisition at Center - Bitonio is reaching the age Joe Thomas retired at and Teller had a nagging calf injury for much of last season. Aside from that, Pocic missed a few starts to injury.
5th Round (#140) WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State 5'11" 191lbs
Began college football with great success at Western Michigan before transferring to Michigan State to be their biggest weapon in the passing game in 2021. Played through injuries in 2022 and showed impressive speed and versatility at the Senior Bowl.
5th Round (#142) OLB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas 6'3" 224lbs
Began his college career as a Safety and made it into the DB rotation. After a couple years he moved to LB where he became a star and leader of the defense. Has good length and range as well as an arm length of about 33 inches.
6th Round (#190) S Tyreque Jones, Boise State 6'2" 207lbs
A 2 time all-conference selection. Has experience as both a traditional safety and nickel. Rare size and length with 34-inch arms. Listed as a Sleeper only this is the good kind that keeps his eyes open when he plays defense.
7th Round (#229) QB Stetson Bennett IV, Georgia 5'11" 190lbs
What would Johnny Manziel look like if he was sober and willing to look at the playbook? A practice squad QB that will be really good at running the scout team offense. If he's willing to put the work in - he could become the next Gardner Minshew II. Stay tuned?
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Dutch Oven's Not-So-Super Duper Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74): LB Jack Campbell, Iowa 6'4", 248lbs
Built like a traditional middle linebacker, he's got the strength to anchor the inside of the defense, and is surprisingly nimble for a man his size. I'd have no problem with LB Daiyan Henley here either.
3rd Round (#98): DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4", 312lbsGreat physical tools should make him an asset vs the run, has the potential to give you something in pass rush department too.
4th Round: (#111) OT Braeden Daniels, Utah 6'4, 298lbs
Very experienced (43 college starts) and played multiple positions. Good upside, needs to gain weight/strength.
4th Round (#126): TE Zack Kuntz, Old Dominion 6'8", 250lbsAmazing catch radius, athleticism and a potential match-up nightmare. Like Daniels, needs to hit a NFL workout room because he would be woefully inadequate at this time trying to block as an in-line TE. Worth the draft pick on the potential jersey sales alone.
5th Round (#140): OG Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse 6'5", 324lbs
Experienced as a college tackle, he projects as a guard for a zone-heavy team that values athletic movers on the inside. Versatile potential starter.
5th Round (#142): DE Eku Leota, Auburn 6'3", 260lbs
Long build for his height, he has a good combination of strength and quickness to be able to set the edge. Good motor, hard worker who graduated college in three years. Comp was Cincinnati's Sam Hubbard.
6th Round (#190): WR Dontay Demus Jr, Maryland 6'3", 213lbs
Athletic big bodied WR who was recovering from a knee injury. His ability to high-point the ball is his elite skill. Solid blocker.7th Round (#229): RB Evan Hull, Northwestern 5'10" 210lbs
Mediocre athlete, but a tough kid who can catch the ball out of the backfield with the best of them.
We interrupt all intelligent conversation with Flugel's Can't Quit My Day Job Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74) ILB Daiyan Henley, Washington State 6'1" 230lbs
LBer isn't a need but this defense could use an X-factor to force and get us turnovers. It might have been a bit premature - but when I shared his highlights I wrote this might be my favorite guy in the whole draft. In that video, from the very 1st play of him causing a turnover while a guy was being tackled - this guy is everywhere. He's explosive and he flies to the football. Even better, he's on time to the extent he stifles the point of attack. At the time of my 1st impression - I had no idea @tiamat63 was already breaking down film of him and he was impressed.
3rd Round (#98) DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4" 312lbs
Started and held his own as a true freshman as a Nose Tackle after finishing his high school wrestling career 48-2. It's very rare for a player at Wisconsin to start all 4 years in that program like Benton did. He projects well in a 3-4 or a 4-3 which won't surprise anyone that has seen him play. Great vision and reliable tackler. Keeps a pad height that enables good leverage. He's a good lateral mover that can be utilized in stunts. Would look really good in orange and brown lining up next to Tomlinson.
4th Round (#111) LT Ryan Hayes, Michigan 6'6" 301lbs
Former high school basketball player and pitcher was recruited as a 6'6" TE at 271lbs before being moved to OL. His biggest weakness is very short arms for a guy with his height. Probably won't replace Wills immediately or at all this year. BUT, he could line up as a dual purpose TE to the left of Wills in some double tight formations to get his feet wet helping to set the edge. This is a very tough, hard nosed kid that will battle.
4th Round (#126) OG/C Steve Avila, TCU 6'4" 330lbs
Team Captain for an offense Michigan couldn't stop in the BCS playoff game. Was actually a 2 year Captain. Versatile enough to play all positions but LT - eventually settled in as a Center in 2021 and then LG in 2022. Very powerful. Seems like the type of player Callahan would love to coach. While the Browns are currently strong at OG and Pocic was a nice acquisition at Center - Bitonio is reaching the age Joe Thomas retired at and Teller had a nagging calf injury for much of last season. Aside from that, Pocic missed a few starts to injury.
5th Round (#140) WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State 5'11" 191lbs
Began college football with great success at Western Michigan before transferring to Michigan State to be their biggest weapon in the passing game in 2021. Played through injuries in 2022 and showed impressive speed and versatility at the Senior Bowl.
5th Round (#142) OLB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas 6'3" 224lbs
Began his college career as a Safety and made it into the DB rotation. After a couple years he moved to LB where he became a star and leader of the defense. Has good length and range as well as an arm length of about 33 inches.
6th Round (#190) S Tyreque Jones, Boise State 6'2" 207lbs
A 2 time all-conference selection. Has experience as both a traditional safety and nickel. Rare size and length with 34-inch arms. Listed as a Sleeper only this is the good kind that keeps his eyes open when he plays defense.
7th Round (#229) QB Stetson Bennett IV, Georgia 5'11" 190lbs
What would Johnny Manziel look like if he was sober and willing to look at the playbook? A practice squad QB that will be really good at running the scout team offense. If he's willing to put the work in - he could become the next Gardner Minshew II. Stay tuned?
We interrupt all intelligent conversation with Flugel's Can't Quit My Day Job Mock Draft 1.0
3rd Round (#74) ILB Daiyan Henley, Washington State 6'1" 230lbs
I'll buy.
3rd Round (#98) DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin 6'4" 312lbs
I'd rather have Keeanu Reeves RB Fansville State-so quick he can dodge bullets.
4th Round (#111) LT Ryan Hayes, Michigan 6'6" 301lbs
Former high school basketball player - If he can catch like BB Player Mike Evans -he's a keeper.
4th Round (#126) OG/C Steve Avila, TCU 6'4" 330lbs
Yep.?
5th Round (#140) WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State 5'11" 191lbs
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5th Round (#142) OLB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas 6'3" 224lbs
We don't need no teasippers.
6th Round (#190) S Tyreque Jones, Boise State 6'2" 207lbs
Roll them dice-nothin' to lose here.
7th Round (#229) QB Stetson Bennett IV, Georgia 5'11" 190lbs
Gone in the 5th or 6th IMO
The question will be how many we trade out of to move up IMO.
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That's a good looking mock draft @flugel!
We have a lot of the same positions covered.
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