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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #4

    This thread is making me long for the Guardians to play again.... ?

    It baffles me that a team that had playoff aspirations could trot out a team with the absolute garbage they have at DTackle. Some of us (definitely not tia, though ?) were worried about this since training camp started. 

    Adding talented beef in the middle, along with finally getting a legit young pass rusher to pair with Myles has to be priority #1 this offseason. 

    Speaking of beef, my cousin from Chicagoland got me two Lou Malnati's deep dish pizzas for my birthday last weekend. But wait - it gets better. They are their new "Italian Beef Deep Dish Pizza!". That's right, Lou Malnati's has combined forces with Portillo's (famous Chicago hot dog/sandwich shop) !

    I'll post pics later. 

  • This thread is making me long for the Guardians to play again.... ?

    It baffles me that a team that had playoff aspirations could trot out a team with the absolute garbage they have at DTackle. Some of us (definitely not tia, though ?) were worried about this since training camp started. 

    Adding talented beef in the middle, along with finally getting a legit young pass rusher to pair with Myles has to be priority #1 this offseason. 

    Speaking of beef, my cousin from Chicagoland got me two Lou Malnati's deep dish pizzas for my birthday last weekend. But wait - it gets better. They are their new "Italian Beef Deep Dish Pizza!". That's right, Lou Malnati's has combined forces with Portillo's (famous Chicago hot dog/sandwich shop) !

    I'll post pics later. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @dutch-oven said:

    This thread is making me long for the Guardians to play again.... ?

    It baffles me that a team that had playoff aspirations could trot out a team with the absolute garbage they have at DTackle. Some of us (definitely not tia, though ?) were worried about this since training camp started. 

    Adding talented beef in the middle, along with finally getting a legit young pass rusher to pair with Myles has to be priority #1 this offseason. 

    Speaking of beef, my cousin from Chicagoland got me two Lou Malnati's deep dish pizzas for my birthday last weekend. But wait - it gets better. They are their new "Italian Beef Deep Dish Pizza!". That's right, Lou Malnati's has combined forces with Portillo's (famous Chicago hot dog/sandwich shop) !

    I'll post pics later. 

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Adding qualified DTs also keeps bodies off our LBers.  I had high expectations for JOK and the JOKE was on me.  The other one (Walker) didn't even survive the 1st month.  Should we call OSHA for the health and safety concerns of our LBers at the work place?   

    For some reason, the ONLY time this team looks like a playoff team is when they've faced Joe Burrow the last 2 seasons. That's due to end asap too - especially with the attitude of this team.  My favorite football quote from a movie in response to the Defensive Captain's comment on 1 of his teammate's attitude went something like this:  "Yeah? Attitude reflect leadership Superman!" 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    This thread is making me long for the Guardians to play again.... ?

    It baffles me that a team that had playoff aspirations could trot out a team with the absolute garbage they have at DTackle. Some of us (definitely not tia, though ?) were worried about this since training camp started. 

    Adding talented beef in the middle, along with finally getting a legit young pass rusher to pair with Myles has to be priority #1 this offseason. 

    Speaking of beef, my cousin from Chicagoland got me two Lou Malnati's deep dish pizzas for my birthday last weekend. But wait - it gets better. They are their new "Italian Beef Deep Dish Pizza!". That's right, Lou Malnati's has combined forces with Portillo's (famous Chicago hot dog/sandwich shop) !

    I'll post pics later. 

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Adding qualified DTs also keeps bodies off our LBers.  I had high expectations for JOK and the JOKE was on me.  The other one (Walker) didn't even survive the 1st month.  Should we call OSHA for the health and safety concerns of our LBers at the work place?   

    For some reason, the ONLY time this team looks like a playoff team is when they've faced Joe Burrow the last 2 seasons. That's due to end asap too - especially with the attitude of this team.  My favorite football quote from a movie in response to the Defensive Captain's comment on 1 of his teammate's attitude went something like this:  "Yeah? Attitude reflect leadership Superman!" 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @flugel said:

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Adding qualified DTs also keeps bodies off our LBers.  I had high expectations for JOK and the JOKE was on me.  The other one (Walker) didn't even survive the 1st month.  Should we call OSHA for the health and safety concerns of our LBers at the work place?   

    For some reason, the ONLY time this team looks like a playoff team is when they've faced Joe Burrow the last 2 seasons. That's due to end asap too - especially with the attitude of this team.  My favorite football quote from a movie in response to the Defensive Captain's comment on 1 of his teammate's attitude went something like this:  "Yeah? Attitude reflect leadership Superman!" 

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

  • @flugel said:

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Adding qualified DTs also keeps bodies off our LBers.  I had high expectations for JOK and the JOKE was on me.  The other one (Walker) didn't even survive the 1st month.  Should we call OSHA for the health and safety concerns of our LBers at the work place?   

    For some reason, the ONLY time this team looks like a playoff team is when they've faced Joe Burrow the last 2 seasons. That's due to end asap too - especially with the attitude of this team.  My favorite football quote from a movie in response to the Defensive Captain's comment on 1 of his teammate's attitude went something like this:  "Yeah? Attitude reflect leadership Superman!" 

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
    #7

    @dutch-oven said:

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @sdbacker80 said:

      Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    This is what I'm hoping for... Or at least puts them in better position and take better angles... But we still need speed on the perimeter...  Our LBer's are slow... Our secondary can't tackle to save its soul... And they can't stay healthy for any length of time... I want to see a more traditional type of defense that plays physical...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    This thread is making me long for the Guardians to play again.... ?

    It baffles me that a team that had playoff aspirations could trot out a team with the absolute garbage they have at DTackle. Some of us (definitely not tia, though ?) were worried about this since training camp started. 

    Adding talented beef in the middle, along with finally getting a legit young pass rusher to pair with Myles has to be priority #1 this offseason. 

    Speaking of beef, my cousin from Chicagoland got me two Lou Malnati's deep dish pizzas for my birthday last weekend. But wait - it gets better. They are their new "Italian Beef Deep Dish Pizza!". That's right, Lou Malnati's has combined forces with Portillo's (famous Chicago hot dog/sandwich shop) !

    I'll post pics later. 

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Adding qualified DTs also keeps bodies off our LBers.  I had high expectations for JOK and the JOKE was on me.  The other one (Walker) didn't even survive the 1st month.  Should we call OSHA for the health and safety concerns of our LBers at the work place?   

    For some reason, the ONLY time this team looks like a playoff team is when they've faced Joe Burrow the last 2 seasons. That's due to end asap too - especially with the attitude of this team.  My favorite football quote from a movie in response to the Defensive Captain's comment on 1 of his teammate's attitude went something like this:  "Yeah? Attitude reflect leadership Superman!" 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @flugel said:

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Lou Malnati's Deep Dish Italian Beef Pizza!

    lou malnatis pizza.jpeg

  • @flugel said:

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Lou Malnati's Deep Dish Italian Beef Pizza!

    lou malnatis pizza.jpeg

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
    #10

    @dutch-oven said:

    Lou Malnati's Deep Dish Italian Beef Pizza!

    lou malnatis pizza.jpeg

    MF, I've been over here, cutting weight for 5 weeks leading up to Thanksgiving... and you're going to post some deliciousness like this all up in my eyes?   Get bent.

    Also, Happy Birthday.     Mostly the 'get bent' part though.

  • @flugel said:

    Happy Belated Birthday Dutch!  Glad to hear your cousin made it a good one.  The last time you posted pictures - I was ordering pizza as soon as I could.

    Lou Malnati's Deep Dish Italian Beef Pizza!

    lou malnatis pizza.jpeg

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @dutch-oven said:

    Lou Malnati's Deep Dish Italian Beef Pizza!

    lou malnatis pizza.jpeg

    Those Jalapenos and the well-done style - I'd be ordering this all the freakin time.  You're making me miss the food in Western, NY which is a lot like this.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    I think if we take care of the DT position and try a new DC - it could really help the LBers and back tier.  As for Delpit, there's nothing wrong with his effort.  He's just not the brightest apple in the orchard, which rears its head at the worst of times.  He is a good blitzer but he's a fundamental disaster at tackling people.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That's the other thing that made zero sense Flugs...

    The Browns collect small, fast LBs but then completely forget to get a DLine in front of them that keeps them clean. 

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @sdbacker80 said:

       Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    @nickers said:

     I want to see a more traditional type of defense that plays physical...

     Browns twatter Gm's like Brian Flores.. Flores has a easier job title to promote from... Pittsburgh Steelers' senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach under head coach Mike Tomlin.

    I'm more thinking, the NFL has missed the boat on not picking over this underrated staff... https://www.tennesseetitans.com/team/coaches-roster/

    Titans DC Shane Bowen was raised up in Pickerington,Ohio... went to HS at Pickerington Central

    Honestly.. The Titans are a easy underdog team that has promise to knock off any of the AFC top teams.. stay tuned

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Well They’ve been clean at times and then they don’t not make proper run fills.  So I’m with you all on DT play being awful.  But throwing the kitchen sink at it but running it all back in other spots by adding a 2023 2nd and 3rd round DT and a key free agent seemingly fixes that spot but then you need to seriously evaluate the 2nd and 3rd levels up the middle of this defense.  The problem this year it is like pulling teeth getting IDL, MIKE and Safeties doing their jobs  together. 

    We haven’t had somewhat competent Mike play since Walker went down during the Steeler game- week 3 but  I think we need to do better than Walker.

    And Johnson either doesn’t fit here and/or got paid and is playing like he’s on easy street.  Delpit couldn’t tackle in college, but he possessed athleticism and played downhill and could seemingly matchup in college against some great SEC WR talent.  LSU brought him off the edge too and he made some big plays TFLs.  The guy is confused - plays slow and has flashed maybe 2/3 times in 2 years.   Maybe a new coordinator and staff fixes this group? 

    I think if we take care of the DT position and try a new DC - it could really help the LBers and back tier.  As for Delpit, there's nothing wrong with his effort.  He's just not the brightest apple in the orchard, which rears its head at the worst of times.  He is a good blitzer but he's a fundamental disaster at tackling people.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @flugel said:

     He is a good blitzer but he's a fundamental disaster at tackling people.

    Agree.

    Doesn't it seem that the art of tackling in general across the whole NFL is horrible? I don't know if it's the rule changes regarding the knees, but so many plays these guys go "high tackle" & the ball carriers just bounce off for more yards. Not too many shoestring or ankle tackles anymore.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #15

    I guess the silver lining I have is that - unlike Browns teams of the past - this trainwreck of a team actually has a good amount of talent on the roster. 

    I'm not so optimistic that the people in charge can improve the coaching staff and weak spots on the roster so we can actually see this team reach its potential