IMO, the Best Defensive Lines are in the Conference Championships
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Jimmy is a clown who has 0 business owning a Football Franchise... He's failed with everything he's done.. Come on.. 10 years and one playoff appearance?... Bullshit!
Clown, maybe, maybe not. No business owning a football team? I didn't know there was some criteria other than having a $billion or so to throw around and get other owners to think you are OK.
He didn't fail at making money, so he clearly isn't a failure at everything.
Clown, maybe, maybe not. No business owning a football team? I didn't know there was some criteria other than having a $billion or so to throw around and get other owners to think you are OK.
He didn't fail at making money, so he clearly isn't a failure at everything.
When he first came here, he learned the hard way that you can't keep firing your 3-5 year plans prematurely just 1 to 2 years into them. He went a little Wiley Coyote with it.
The problem with that is he could be giving too much trust and loyalty to the wrong FO guys today. It's a fine line. Like Schwartz said in paraphrase here, learning from your mistakes is what make you better at what you do. This is a HUGE off season for the FO. I hope I'm wrong about them. I've been saying that a lot in the last year for a guy that wants to be right...
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Jimmy is a clown who has 0 business owning a Football Franchise... He's failed with everything he's done.. Come on.. 10 years and one playoff appearance?... Bullshit!
Clown, maybe, maybe not. No business owning a football team? I didn't know there was some criteria other than having a $billion or so to throw around and get other owners to think you are OK.
He didn't fail at making money, so he clearly isn't a failure at everything.
Clown, maybe, maybe not. No business owning a football team? I didn't know there was some criteria other than having a $billion or so to throw around and get other owners to think you are OK.
He didn't fail at making money, so he clearly isn't a failure at everything.
He's a failure at "WINNING Franchise!"... Stop the excuses for this ass hat...
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Clown, maybe, maybe not. No business owning a football team? I didn't know there was some criteria other than having a $billion or so to throw around and get other owners to think you are OK.
He didn't fail at making money, so he clearly isn't a failure at everything.
He's a failure at "WINNING Franchise!"... Stop the excuses for this ass hat...
He's a failure at "WINNING Franchise!"... Stop the excuses for this ass hat...
I am not making excuses. I was just commenting on your statements and pointing out I disagree. As for your comment in this post, I can't disagree. I just don't agree he is a bad owner.
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People arguing with nickers on here always reminds me of the old saying:
"Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
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Haslem and his daddy noticed that dingy old roadside truck stops were always packed with trucks. So they bought up those dingy things and went through them, made them all shiny, new and improved.
I just don't agree he is a bad owner.
Well, he hasn't been too good. He's systematically screwed up every part of the organization, up to and including the uniform. And some people ain't too happy with the current DePodesta, Berry, Stef thing. The Browns have recorded many of the worst records in the proud history of the team under his watch. - just sayin'.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Tom, we are in concert. This is why I liked Butch Davis. He wanted to murder the opposing QB, and he wanted to do it with 4 men.
For a short time, I think maybe 3 games sadly, we had a motherfucker front 4. Courtney Brown got hurt, Gerrard Warren got lazy, and dude, there was a guy whose name I forgot that was murderous. That front 4 just fell apart.
If I was a GM O would voraciously recruit theost aggressive defensive linemen.
If Garrett had 3 monsters that required double teamed, his limited, but amazing speed and foot skills would probably ly see him double or triple his sacks.
#95 Jamir Miller actually upgraded the edge rush after Courtney went down. In 2001, Miller had 13 sacks and made the Pro Bowl. 1 year later he blew out his achilles tendon in the 1st preseason game and his career ended.
Courtney got away with a lot of stuff in the Big 10 that the professional level would challenge him with. He was a 1 gap (pick a side/olay and beat the OT with quickness) kind of guy that was very effective for the impressive sack volume and TFLs. His big specialty being on the edge was back side clampdowns when Olines were reach blocking the other way toward the playside. Meaning? Nobody often blocked or hinged Courtney off so that elite quickness ran down countless tackles for losses. When Michigan studied this up, they chose to run right AT Courtney with great success. This amounted to some long extended scoring drives. It was somewhat similar to the NYGs running the ball behind OT Jumbo Elliott right at Bruce Smith who had numerous 1 gap moves like his patented spin move, aside from the rip and swim moves. The problem with using all those against Jumbo Elliott is that Elliott is going to feel like it's easier than Driving Miss Daisy. The Giants set a Super Bowl record with a 75 yard TD drive that took 9:29. They also set a Super Bowl record of possessing the ball for 40 minutes and 33 seconds. They had drives of 11 plays and 10 plays in the 1st half and 2 drives of 14 plays in the 2nd half. Back to Courtney, a lot of NFL offenses ran right AT Courtney like Michigan chose to do to him.
Myles Garrett can give us a great pass rush playing through the man (2 gap) or around him (1 gap), which is why he's a better pro than Courtney Brown was. When he gets down in that stance and drives the guy in front of him all the way into the QB and then he sacks that QB too - that's some FUN stuff to witness! When it comes to who was better between Bruce Smith and Reggie White - I preferred Reggie White's game of 2 gap ragdoll the guy in front of him without slowing down while also controlling his inside and outside gaps in the process. Elite strength, quickness and explosion was packed in that 330 pound man. That said, Bruce Smith was frequently unstoppable too. It would be nice to get some better defensive linemen to join Garrett in our front 4. If the FO neglects this again, no more scapegoats - BYE BYE FO!
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Tom, we are in concert. This is why I liked Butch Davis. He wanted to murder the opposing QB, and he wanted to do it with 4 men.
For a short time, I think maybe 3 games sadly, we had a motherfucker front 4. Courtney Brown got hurt, Gerrard Warren got lazy, and dude, there was a guy whose name I forgot that was murderous. That front 4 just fell apart.
If I was a GM O would voraciously recruit theost aggressive defensive linemen.
If Garrett had 3 monsters that required double teamed, his limited, but amazing speed and foot skills would probably ly see him double or triple his sacks.
#95 Jamir Miller actually upgraded the edge rush after Courtney went down. In 2001, Miller had 13 sacks and made the Pro Bowl. 1 year later he blew out his achilles tendon in the 1st preseason game and his career ended.
Courtney got away with a lot of stuff in the Big 10 that the professional level would challenge him with. He was a 1 gap (pick a side/olay and beat the OT with quickness) kind of guy that was very effective for the impressive sack volume and TFLs. His big specialty being on the edge was back side clampdowns when Olines were reach blocking the other way toward the playside. Meaning? Nobody often blocked or hinged Courtney off so that elite quickness ran down countless tackles for losses. When Michigan studied this up, they chose to run right AT Courtney with great success. This amounted to some long extended scoring drives. It was somewhat similar to the NYGs running the ball behind OT Jumbo Elliott right at Bruce Smith who had numerous 1 gap moves like his patented spin move, aside from the rip and swim moves. The problem with using all those against Jumbo Elliott is that Elliott is going to feel like it's easier than Driving Miss Daisy. The Giants set a Super Bowl record with a 75 yard TD drive that took 9:29. They also set a Super Bowl record of possessing the ball for 40 minutes and 33 seconds. They had drives of 11 plays and 10 plays in the 1st half and 2 drives of 14 plays in the 2nd half. Back to Courtney, a lot of NFL offenses ran right AT Courtney like Michigan chose to do to him.
Myles Garrett can give us a great pass rush playing through the man (2 gap) or around him (1 gap), which is why he's a better pro than Courtney Brown was. When he gets down in that stance and drives the guy in front of him all the way into the QB and then he sacks that QB too - that's some FUN stuff to witness! When it comes to who was better between Bruce Smith and Reggie White - I preferred Reggie White's game of 2 gap ragdoll the guy in front of him without slowing down while also controlling his inside and outside gaps in the process. Elite strength, quickness and explosion was packed in that 330 pound man. That said, Bruce Smith was frequently unstoppable too. It would be nice to get some better defensive linemen to join Garrett in our front 4. If the FO neglects this again, no more scapegoats - BYE BYE FO!
#95 Jamir Miller actually upgraded the edge rush after Courtney went down. In 2001, Miller had 13 sacks and made the Pro Bowl. 1 year later he blew out his achilles tendon in the 1st preseason game and his career ended.
Courtney got away with a lot of stuff in the Big 10 that the professional level would challenge him with. He was a 1 gap (pick a side/olay and beat the OT with quickness) kind of guy that was very effective for the impressive sack volume and TFLs. His big specialty being on the edge was back side clampdowns when Olines were reach blocking the other way toward the playside. Meaning? Nobody often blocked or hinged Courtney off so that elite quickness ran down countless tackles for losses. When Michigan studied this up, they chose to run right AT Courtney with great success. This amounted to some long extended scoring drives. It was somewhat similar to the NYGs running the ball behind OT Jumbo Elliott right at Bruce Smith who had numerous 1 gap moves like his patented spin move, aside from the rip and swim moves. The problem with using all those against Jumbo Elliott is that Elliott is going to feel like it's easier than Driving Miss Daisy. The Giants set a Super Bowl record with a 75 yard TD drive that took 9:29. They also set a Super Bowl record of possessing the ball for 40 minutes and 33 seconds. They had drives of 11 plays and 10 plays in the 1st half and 2 drives of 14 plays in the 2nd half. Back to Courtney, a lot of NFL offenses ran right AT Courtney like Michigan chose to do to him.
Myles Garrett can give us a great pass rush playing through the man (2 gap) or around him (1 gap), which is why he's a better pro than Courtney Brown was. When he gets down in that stance and drives the guy in front of him all the way into the QB and then he sacks that QB too - that's some FUN stuff to witness! When it comes to who was better between Bruce Smith and Reggie White - I preferred Reggie White's game of 2 gap ragdoll the guy in front of him without slowing down while also controlling his inside and outside gaps in the process. Elite strength, quickness and explosion was packed in that 330 pound man. That said, Bruce Smith was frequently unstoppable too. It would be nice to get some better defensive linemen to join Garrett in our front 4. If the FO neglects this again, no more scapegoats - BYE BYE FO!
If I remember right... That was OJ.Anderson on that 75 yard drive... He was one of the best 3 yards and a cloud of dust runners I ever saw... He would've made a one Woodrow Hays proud...
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#95 Jamir Miller actually upgraded the edge rush after Courtney went down. In 2001, Miller had 13 sacks and made the Pro Bowl. 1 year later he blew out his achilles tendon in the 1st preseason game and his career ended.
Courtney got away with a lot of stuff in the Big 10 that the professional level would challenge him with. He was a 1 gap (pick a side/olay and beat the OT with quickness) kind of guy that was very effective for the impressive sack volume and TFLs. His big specialty being on the edge was back side clampdowns when Olines were reach blocking the other way toward the playside. Meaning? Nobody often blocked or hinged Courtney off so that elite quickness ran down countless tackles for losses. When Michigan studied this up, they chose to run right AT Courtney with great success. This amounted to some long extended scoring drives. It was somewhat similar to the NYGs running the ball behind OT Jumbo Elliott right at Bruce Smith who had numerous 1 gap moves like his patented spin move, aside from the rip and swim moves. The problem with using all those against Jumbo Elliott is that Elliott is going to feel like it's easier than Driving Miss Daisy. The Giants set a Super Bowl record with a 75 yard TD drive that took 9:29. They also set a Super Bowl record of possessing the ball for 40 minutes and 33 seconds. They had drives of 11 plays and 10 plays in the 1st half and 2 drives of 14 plays in the 2nd half. Back to Courtney, a lot of NFL offenses ran right AT Courtney like Michigan chose to do to him.
Myles Garrett can give us a great pass rush playing through the man (2 gap) or around him (1 gap), which is why he's a better pro than Courtney Brown was. When he gets down in that stance and drives the guy in front of him all the way into the QB and then he sacks that QB too - that's some FUN stuff to witness! When it comes to who was better between Bruce Smith and Reggie White - I preferred Reggie White's game of 2 gap ragdoll the guy in front of him without slowing down while also controlling his inside and outside gaps in the process. Elite strength, quickness and explosion was packed in that 330 pound man. That said, Bruce Smith was frequently unstoppable too. It would be nice to get some better defensive linemen to join Garrett in our front 4. If the FO neglects this again, no more scapegoats - BYE BYE FO!
If I remember right... That was OJ.Anderson on that 75 yard drive... He was one of the best 3 yards and a cloud of dust runners I ever saw... He would've made a one Woodrow Hays proud...
If I remember right... That was OJ.Anderson on that 75 yard drive... He was one of the best 3 yards and a cloud of dust runners I ever saw... He would've made a one Woodrow Hays proud...
Good memory! He was actually the MVP of the Super Bowl with 21 carries for 102 yards and 1 TD.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Tom, this was an excellent, excellent take. My slams on "Mild" Garrett have never discounted his obvious elite skill set. I have always believed that if the Browns had a couple.more headaches on the DL, Garrett would literally rise to the level of QB terrorist.
Thanks - I appreciate that Tom. I was worried I was going to put everyone to sleep.
I think Garrett gets frustrated with the lack of urgency from the top to get the right attack pieces in place on the Defensive Line. Despite that reality, the FO and coaches want/need him to be a leader which looks hard for him to do when he's flustered most of the games. I have a feeling his leadership will improve if/when the FO takes the DL more seriously in the off-season. He trains his ass off; so he wants it to mean something on the scoreboard.
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