~ AND ~ ? only 204 days and now 92 ? 57 ? 32 ? 19 ? YES really ! And still counting... ? ....?
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We've had a good run of very good defensive backs, but now we will turn our attention to one of the most underrated Browns receivers in history, as we are now Ray Renfro days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Renfro was a 1952 fourth round pick of the Browns out of North Texas State University, and he started as a halfback before switching to flanker. Perhaps because he came after legends like Dante Lavelli and Mac Speedie and before loved Browns receivers Gary Collins and Paul Warfield he kind of is forgotten now, but Renfro put up some crazy numbers. He might have been the guy who was the inspiration for the phrase "big chunk plays", because he only averaged two catches a game throughout his career, but he averaged almost 20 yards a catch! He played his entire career with the Browns (1952-63), playing in five NFL Championships, where he scored three touchdowns. He finished his career with 281 receptions for a staggering 5508 yard (19.6 per catch) and 50 touchdowns.
We've had a good run of very good defensive backs, but now we will turn our attention to one of the most underrated Browns receivers in history, as we are now Ray Renfro days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Renfro was a 1952 fourth round pick of the Browns out of North Texas State University, and he started as a halfback before switching to flanker. Perhaps because he came after legends like Dante Lavelli and Mac Speedie and before loved Browns receivers Gary Collins and Paul Warfield he kind of is forgotten now, but Renfro put up some crazy numbers. He might have been the guy who was the inspiration for the phrase "big chunk plays", because he only averaged two catches a game throughout his career, but he averaged almost 20 yards a catch! He played his entire career with the Browns (1952-63), playing in five NFL Championships, where he scored three touchdowns. He finished his career with 281 receptions for a staggering 5508 yard (19.6 per catch) and 50 touchdowns.
Now #26 Ray Renfro an excellent choice of a great football player and position coach and many other contributions to football at all levels. A great guy and father to one pretty good #82 Mike Renfro, Houston Oilers and later Dallas Cowboys player #82 at both.
And I remember #26 Ray Renfro with the BROWNS. 1952-1963 when I was a young teenager and later #82 Mike Renfro especially with Dallas from 1978-1987.. Early and later NFL football years for me.
The Renfro families are heavily involved in football and other sports.
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It's Preseason Game #3 tonight, and that brings us to everyone's favorite current Browns player, Nick Chubb days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Chubb was a second round pick out of Georgia in 2018, where he ran for 4769 yards and 44 touchdowns in four seasons. He started his rookie season as the backup to Carlos Hyde, but proved too talented to sit and Hyde was traded in October of the 2018 season to allow Chubb to start. Shortly after, Chubb would rip off a team-record 92 yard touchdown vs the Falcons. In his next four seasons, he'd be named to the Pro Bowl. While he just missed a 1000 yard season in his rookie season, he has averaged 5.0 or more yards per carry in all five seasons. For his career, he's rushed for 6341 yards at 5.2 yards a carry and 48 touchdowns. He's added 119 receptions for another 990 yards and four more touchdowns.
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Syd beat me to it, but we are in fact Joe Haden days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Haden was the Browns first round pick (#7 overall) from the University of Florida, and would play seven years in Cleveland. He would go to back-to-back Pro Bowls in 2013 and 2014, and record 19 interceptions with the Browns. In the middle of the Browns 2016/2017 tank job they would cut Haden, and he'd quickly sign with the Steelers, where he'd play the final five seasons of his career, going to another Pro Bowl in 2019. On September 21, 2022, Haden signed a one day contract with the Browns and retired.
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Syd beat me to it, but we are in fact Joe Haden days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Haden was the Browns first round pick (#7 overall) from the University of Florida, and would play seven years in Cleveland. He would go to back-to-back Pro Bowls in 2013 and 2014, and record 19 interceptions with the Browns. In the middle of the Browns 2016/2017 tank job they would cut Haden, and he'd quickly sign with the Steelers, where he'd play the final five seasons of his career, going to another Pro Bowl in 2019. On September 21, 2022, Haden signed a one day contract with the Browns and retired.
Syd beat me to it, but we are in fact Joe Haden days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Haden was the Browns first round pick (#7 overall) from the University of Florida, and would play seven years in Cleveland. He would go to back-to-back Pro Bowls in 2013 and 2014, and record 19 interceptions with the Browns. In the middle of the Browns 2016/2017 tank job they would cut Haden, and he'd quickly sign with the Steelers, where he'd play the final five seasons of his career, going to another Pro Bowl in 2019. On September 21, 2022, Haden signed a one day contract with the Browns and retired.
Glad you and Syd gave Joe Haden the respect he deserves.
Aside from his cover skills, he was also one of the best open field tacklers we've had at the corner position during my lifetime. Not only that, this guy was fearless in run support quite often throwing himself into the teeth of the point of attack to make the tackle. Unfortunately that was the type of stuff that made it seem like he was forever playing through nagging injuries. Playing through injuries used to be an admirable quality in football before Joe did it apparently. This guy was a great one IMO.
Cincy's 7 time Pro Bowl WR AJ Green called Joe Haden the toughest Corner to match up with. Knowing their battles went all the way back into the SEC - that says all it has to about how good Joe Haden was...
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Top o' the morning to all you lads, we find ourselves at Clarence Scott days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Scott grew up in Decatur, Georgia a Browns fan, and after attending college at Kansas State his favorite team selected him in the first round (#14 overall) of the 1971 Draft. Scott would play his entire career with the Browns, first as a starting cornerback ('71-78), then moving to safety ('79-83). He would go to the Pro Bowl in 1973, and the Browns would go to the playoffs four times during Scott's time with them. Scott had 39 career interceptions and 11 fumble recoveries.
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Syd beat me to it, but we are in fact Joe Haden days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Haden was the Browns first round pick (#7 overall) from the University of Florida, and would play seven years in Cleveland. He would go to back-to-back Pro Bowls in 2013 and 2014, and record 19 interceptions with the Browns. In the middle of the Browns 2016/2017 tank job they would cut Haden, and he'd quickly sign with the Steelers, where he'd play the final five seasons of his career, going to another Pro Bowl in 2019. On September 21, 2022, Haden signed a one day contract with the Browns and retired.
Syd beat me to it, but we are in fact Joe Haden days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Haden was the Browns first round pick (#7 overall) from the University of Florida, and would play seven years in Cleveland. He would go to back-to-back Pro Bowls in 2013 and 2014, and record 19 interceptions with the Browns. In the middle of the Browns 2016/2017 tank job they would cut Haden, and he'd quickly sign with the Steelers, where he'd play the final five seasons of his career, going to another Pro Bowl in 2019. On September 21, 2022, Haden signed a one day contract with the Browns and retired.
syd, Dutch and Flugs all were right on the money with #23 Joe Haden a class act all the way around and from a talented family.
Haden was born in Fort Washington, Maryland to parents Joe and Zakiya Haden. He is the eldest of five boys; his brother Josh was a running back for Boston College, his brother Jordan played safety for Toledo, and his brother Jonathan played running back for UAB. His brother Jacob suffers from a cognitive disorder and struggles to verbally communicate. Haden advocates on behalf of Spread the Word to End the Word to discourage pejorative use of the word "retarded."
And of course this one mentioned by Dutch, a real class act.
On September 21, 2022, Haden announced his retirement and signed a one-day contract with the Cleveland Browns.
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Top o' the morning to all you lads, we find ourselves at Clarence Scott days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Scott grew up in Decatur, Georgia a Browns fan, and after attending college at Kansas State his favorite team selected him in the first round (#14 overall) of the 1971 Draft. Scott would play his entire career with the Browns, first as a starting cornerback ('71-78), then moving to safety ('79-83). He would go to the Pro Bowl in 1973, and the Browns would go to the playoffs four times during Scott's time with them. Scott had 39 career interceptions and 11 fumble recoveries.
Top o' the morning to all you lads, we find ourselves at Clarence Scott days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Scott grew up in Decatur, Georgia a Browns fan, and after attending college at Kansas State his favorite team selected him in the first round (#14 overall) of the 1971 Draft. Scott would play his entire career with the Browns, first as a starting cornerback ('71-78), then moving to safety ('79-83). He would go to the Pro Bowl in 1973, and the Browns would go to the playoffs four times during Scott's time with them. Scott had 39 career interceptions and 11 fumble recoveries.
Well if nothing else #22. Clarence Scott would win this spot based appearances alone as a Cleveland BROWNS player with 85 only #22 Felix Wright would come a distant second at 28 not close enough.
The other thing his favorite team growing up was the Cleveland BROWNS with Jim Brown not a bad choice. He was thrilled when the BROWNS selected him in the first round ...... however
Scott was thrilled to be drafted by his favorite team, the Cleveland Browns, with the 14th overall pick in the 1971 NFL draft. He was the first defensive back selected in 1971.
Cleveland fans initially did not share Scott’s happiness, as they wanted the team to draft Ohio State’s Jack Tatum.
Scott was thrilled to be drafted by his favorite team, the Cleveland Browns, with the 14th overall pick in the 1971 NFL draft. He was the first defensive back selected.
Cleveland fans initially did not share Scott’s happiness, as they wanted the team to draft Ohio State’s Jack Tatum.
Cleveland fans didn’t know who I was. The Browns needed a cornerback, though. Tatum was a safety. Erich Barnes was in his last year, and I replaced him. So when I ran out onto the field before our only preseason home game, the fans booed. I wasn’t upset about it either. I understood. Tatum was from Ohio State, and I was from Kansas State.”
However, Scott quickly won the support of Browns fans.
In his first NFL regular season game, against the Houston Oilers on September 19, 1971, Scott intercepted two passes, which he returned for 27 yards.
Cleveland shut out the Oilers 31-0.
The following week, Scott had another interception, as the Browns defeated the Baltimore Colts 14-13 on September 26, 1971.
Scott was part of a Cleveland defense that held the Colts to only 41 “net pass yards”.
For his rookie season in 1971 (playing at a height of six feet and a weight of 190 pounds), Scott played in and started 13 regular season games at left cornerback.
He intercepted four passes, which he returned for 47 yards.
With a 9-5 record, Cleveland won the AFC Central Division title in 1971.
Scott contributed to the Browns defense ranking in the NFL regular season in 1971 tied for eighth in total recovered turnovers (40), fourth in fewest passing yards allowed (1,967), and eighth in intercepted passes (24).
Cleveland advanced to the playoffs to play the Baltimore Colts on December 26, 1971.
Scott started the game at left cornerback, but the Browns lost to the Colts 20-3.
After the game, Cleveland owner Art Modell came up to Scott in the locker room.
“He said, ‘You’re going to be here a long time,’ and I said, ‘Thank you, sir, I appreciate that.’ And I was there a long time.”
And the rest is * BROWNS history ..... for a long time. Good pick. God I love this thread, it's history ..... BROWNS history.
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It's Preseason Game #3 tonight, and that brings us to everyone's favorite current Browns player, Nick Chubb days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Chubb was a second round pick out of Georgia in 2018, where he ran for 4769 yards and 44 touchdowns in four seasons. He started his rookie season as the backup to Carlos Hyde, but proved too talented to sit and Hyde was traded in October of the 2018 season to allow Chubb to start. Shortly after, Chubb would rip off a team-record 92 yard touchdown vs the Falcons. In his next four seasons, he'd be named to the Pro Bowl. While he just missed a 1000 yard season in his rookie season, he has averaged 5.0 or more yards per carry in all five seasons. For his career, he's rushed for 6341 yards at 5.2 yards a carry and 48 touchdowns. He's added 119 receptions for another 990 yards and four more touchdowns.
It's Preseason Game #3 tonight, and that brings us to everyone's favorite current Browns player, Nick Chubb days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Chubb was a second round pick out of Georgia in 2018, where he ran for 4769 yards and 44 touchdowns in four seasons. He started his rookie season as the backup to Carlos Hyde, but proved too talented to sit and Hyde was traded in October of the 2018 season to allow Chubb to start. Shortly after, Chubb would rip off a team-record 92 yard touchdown vs the Falcons. In his next four seasons, he'd be named to the Pro Bowl. While he just missed a 1000 yard season in his rookie season, he has averaged 5.0 or more yards per carry in all five seasons. For his career, he's rushed for 6341 yards at 5.2 yards a carry and 48 touchdowns. He's added 119 receptions for another 990 yards and four more touchdowns.
Yes ..... #24 Nick Chubb is no doubt the real deal bar none. Probably the best RB in the NFL for years now and has the body to prove it.
This is just one of many out there to prove it. SO, do you want to tackle this 1 on 1 in the open field ? Yeah, right.
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Well tickle me with a feather and call me Gretchen, but we are Eric Metcalf days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Metcalf, a football and track star at the University of Texas and son of former NFL star RB Terry Metcalf, was the Browns first round pick (#13 overall) of the 1989 Draft. He was a rushing, receiving and return dynamo, who started out as a halfback but later would become a slot receiver. He played for Cleveland between 1989-1994, going to two Pro Bowls ('93, '94) with the Browns, and one more in 1997 with San Diego. He was a well-traveled individual, playing for Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego, Arizona, Carolina, Washington and Green Bay. For his career, he rushed for 2392 yards and 12 touchdowns, caught 541 balls for 5572 yards and 31 touchdowns, and had 9266 return yards and another 12 touchdowns, 10 on punt returns. Any of us old enough to remember him beating the Steelers at Cleveland Stadium with two punt returns in the same game will never forget it.
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Well #21 Eric Metcalf also known as #21 Mr Excitement with the ball in his hands. No doubt he was a good choice wearing the number 21 and 47 games played in a BROWNS uniform but there were a few good Honorable Mentions in this number 21 category.
Dutch did go over Eric Metcalf's numbers in his exciting Cleveland BROWNS career ..... however there are a few others who deserve some mention here. With 31 games through the 2023 and still counting there's Mr Denzel Ward . And his All OH-IO credentials he could tie or surpass Eric Metcalf this year.
▪︎ Denzel Ward (The Warden) ◆ Position: CB. 5-11, 190lb (180cm, 86kg) Team: Cleveland Browns. Born: April 28, 1997 in ★ Macedonia, OH (Age: 26-114d) College: Ohio St. (College Stats) High School: Nordonia (OH)
★ Draft: Cleveland Browns in the 1st round (4th overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft. ★ A future star player ! ★
Denzel has 13 INTs. 2 TDs. 99 yards long. Do remember he negates the other team's best receiver. His numbers :
Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int
▼Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Awards Career 66 65 13 190 2 99 65 2 0 5 33 2 0.5 239 193 46 9 5 31 2018* 21 CLE LCB 21 13 12 3 26 0 26 11 1 0 2 29 0 0.0 53 41 12 5 0 8 PB 2021* 24 CLE LCB 21 15 15 3 103 1 99 10 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 43 34 9 1 2 8 PB 2022 25 CLE CB 21 14 14 3 0 0 0 15 0 0 2 4 2 0.0 53 42 11 1 1 6 2019 22 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 61 1 61 11 0 0 1 0 0 0.0 44 38 6 1 1 5 2020 23 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 0 0 0 18 1 0 0 0 0 0.0 46 38 8 1 1 4 ● Also close could be Earnest Byner (who switched to 44), Brodney Pool 71 and 11 INT and a few others not noteworthy.
★ But Denzel Ward is a good second choice.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Well #21 Eric Metcalf also known as #21 Mr Excitement with the ball in his hands. No doubt he was a good choice wearing the number 21 and 47 games played in a BROWNS uniform but there were a few good Honorable Mentions in this number 21 category.
Dutch did go over Eric Metcalf's numbers in his exciting Cleveland BROWNS career ..... however there are a few others who deserve some mention here. With 31 games through the 2023 and still counting there's Mr Denzel Ward . And his All OH-IO credentials he could tie or surpass Eric Metcalf this year.
▪︎ Denzel Ward (The Warden) ◆ Position: CB. 5-11, 190lb (180cm, 86kg) Team: Cleveland Browns. Born: April 28, 1997 in ★ Macedonia, OH (Age: 26-114d) College: Ohio St. (College Stats) High School: Nordonia (OH)
★ Draft: Cleveland Browns in the 1st round (4th overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft. ★ A future star player ! ★
Denzel has 13 INTs. 2 TDs. 99 yards long. Do remember he negates the other team's best receiver. His numbers :
Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int
▼Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Awards Career 66 65 13 190 2 99 65 2 0 5 33 2 0.5 239 193 46 9 5 31 2018* 21 CLE LCB 21 13 12 3 26 0 26 11 1 0 2 29 0 0.0 53 41 12 5 0 8 PB 2021* 24 CLE LCB 21 15 15 3 103 1 99 10 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 43 34 9 1 2 8 PB 2022 25 CLE CB 21 14 14 3 0 0 0 15 0 0 2 4 2 0.0 53 42 11 1 1 6 2019 22 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 61 1 61 11 0 0 1 0 0 0.0 44 38 6 1 1 5 2020 23 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 0 0 0 18 1 0 0 0 0 0.0 46 38 8 1 1 4 ● Also close could be Earnest Byner (who switched to 44), Brodney Pool 71 and 11 INT and a few others not noteworthy.
★ But Denzel Ward is a good second choice.
Well #21 Eric Metcalf also known as #21 Mr Excitement with the ball in his hands. No doubt he was a good choice wearing the number 21 and 47 games played in a BROWNS uniform but there were a few good Honorable Mentions in this number 21 category.
Dutch did go over Eric Metcalf's numbers in his exciting Cleveland BROWNS career ..... however there are a few others who deserve some mention here. With 31 games through the 2023 and still counting there's Mr Denzel Ward . And his All OH-IO credentials he could tie or surpass Eric Metcalf this year.
▪︎ Denzel Ward (The Warden) ◆ Position: CB. 5-11, 190lb (180cm, 86kg) Team: Cleveland Browns. Born: April 28, 1997 in ★ Macedonia, OH (Age: 26-114d) College: Ohio St. (College Stats) High School: Nordonia (OH)
★ Draft: Cleveland Browns in the 1st round (4th overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft. ★ A future star player ! ★
Denzel has 13 INTs. 2 TDs. 99 yards long. Do remember he negates the other team's best receiver. His numbers :
Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int
▼Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Awards Career 66 65 13 190 2 99 65 2 0 5 33 2 0.5 239 193 46 9 5 31 2018* 21 CLE LCB 21 13 12 3 26 0 26 11 1 0 2 29 0 0.0 53 41 12 5 0 8 PB 2021* 24 CLE LCB 21 15 15 3 103 1 99 10 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 43 34 9 1 2 8 PB 2022 25 CLE CB 21 14 14 3 0 0 0 15 0 0 2 4 2 0.0 53 42 11 1 1 6 2019 22 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 61 1 61 11 0 0 1 0 0 0.0 44 38 6 1 1 5 2020 23 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 0 0 0 18 1 0 0 0 0 0.0 46 38 8 1 1 4 ● Also close could be Earnest Byner (who switched to 44), Bradley Pool 71 and 11 INT and a few others not noteworthy.
★ But Denzel Ward is a good second choice.
let's just hope they do not put him in the slot this year
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Well #21 Eric Metcalf also known as #21 Mr Excitement with the ball in his hands. No doubt he was a good choice wearing the number 21 and 47 games played in a BROWNS uniform but there were a few good Honorable Mentions in this number 21 category.
Dutch did go over Eric Metcalf's numbers in his exciting Cleveland BROWNS career ..... however there are a few others who deserve some mention here. With 31 games through the 2023 and still counting there's Mr Denzel Ward . And his All OH-IO credentials he could tie or surpass Eric Metcalf this year.
▪︎ Denzel Ward (The Warden) ◆ Position: CB. 5-11, 190lb (180cm, 86kg) Team: Cleveland Browns. Born: April 28, 1997 in ★ Macedonia, OH (Age: 26-114d) College: Ohio St. (College Stats) High School: Nordonia (OH)
★ Draft: Cleveland Browns in the 1st round (4th overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft. ★ A future star player ! ★
Denzel has 13 INTs. 2 TDs. 99 yards long. Do remember he negates the other team's best receiver. His numbers :
Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int
▼Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Awards Career 66 65 13 190 2 99 65 2 0 5 33 2 0.5 239 193 46 9 5 31 2018* 21 CLE LCB 21 13 12 3 26 0 26 11 1 0 2 29 0 0.0 53 41 12 5 0 8 PB 2021* 24 CLE LCB 21 15 15 3 103 1 99 10 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 43 34 9 1 2 8 PB 2022 25 CLE CB 21 14 14 3 0 0 0 15 0 0 2 4 2 0.0 53 42 11 1 1 6 2019 22 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 61 1 61 11 0 0 1 0 0 0.0 44 38 6 1 1 5 2020 23 CLE LCB 21 12 12 2 0 0 0 18 1 0 0 0 0 0.0 46 38 8 1 1 4 ● Also close could be Earnest Byner (who switched to 44), Brodney Pool 71 and 11 INT and a few others not noteworthy.
★ But Denzel Ward is a good second choice.
Well #21 Eric Metcalf also known as #21 Mr Excitement with the ball in his hands. No doubt he was a good choice wearing the number 21 and 47 games played in a BROWNS uniform but there were a few good Honorable Mentions in this number 21 category
Metcalf technically started 47 games for the Browns, but he played in 88 games for Cleveland. Since he was kind of a hybrid player, he technically wasn't the starting "tailback" I guess.
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Well we've broken the three week mark, and are at Ross Fichtner days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Fichtner played on both sides of the ball at Purdue, he shared duties as the Boilermakers QB right after Len Dawson, and also played cornerback.
He was a 3rd round pick of the Browns in 1960 (and a second round pick of the AFL Buffalo Bills) who started in the NFL as a cornerback, then moved to free safety, and eventually became the Browns strong safety. He was the Browns starting free safety in the 1964 NFL Championship, and played in Cleveland through the 1967 season.
He would finish his career in 1968 with the New Orleans Saints, finishing his career with 27 interceptions. His son was a longtime Steelers assistant coach, coaching in Pittsburgh from 2007-2020, the last three as their Offensive Coordinator. Ross passed away in 2022.
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In the long history of the Browns, there haven't been too many players more beloved than our man of the day... We are now at Bernie Kosar days until the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Kosar grew up in Boardman, and won a national championship at the University of Miami in 1983. He graduated early and entered the 1985 supplemental draft instead of the traditional draft because the Browns had obtained Buffalo's #1 pick by trading away two first rounders, a third and a sixth. Kosar would become the Browns starting quarterback in his rookie season after a season-ending injury to Gary Danielson, and would help lead the Browns to an AFC Central title, and a close loss to Miami in the playoffs.
The Browns would transition from a run-first team in '85 to a prolific, balanced offense in Kosar's second season, with help of offensive coordinator Lindy Infante. Kosar would lead the Browns to back-to-back AFC Championship Game appearances, but would end of just short of the Super Bowl with two heartbreaking losses to Denver. He lead the AFC in QB rating in 1987. Bernie would miss most of the 1988 season with injuries, and would return in 1989 to throw for 3533 yards, but once again the Browns would lose to Denver in the AFC Championship Game.Between 1990-1993, Kosar would battle injuries and the Browns were in a rebuilding era, as the mid-to-late 80s teams started to age quickly, specifically the OLine. Bill Belichick would cut Kosar during the 1993 season, and his days as a starting QB were effectively done. He'd finish the season in Dallas (picking up a Super Bowl ring as backup to Troy Aikman), then spend his last three seasons in Miami as a backup. For his career, Kosar threw for 23,301 yards, 124 touchdowns and 87 interceptions.
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i believe it was the week after Bernie was let go. and i was on the 50 yard line center(seahawks game) and rode belichek for most of the game. and yes he was nice enough to turn around and acknowledge my boorish behavior
Love Ya Bernie
i believe it was the week after Bernie was let go. and i was on the 50 yard line center(seahawks game) and rode belichek for most of the game. and yes he was nice enough to turn around and acknowledge my boorish behavior
Love Ya Bernie
The infamous Todd Philcox game in Seattle.
Belichick wasn't well-liked here, specifically for this move, but sadly he was right about Kosar. By his fifth or sixth season, he was already in decline. By the time Bill cut him, his days as a starter were done. He was only 29.
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Good morning lads! Allow me to blow your minds with this tasty trivia tidbit, for today I will inform you (or remind you) that once, the Browns had a QB with a truly fantastic name. Yes, boys, we are Dick Shiner days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Shiner was a 1964 seventh round pick of Washington who played sparingly for the Redskins for three seasons behind started Sonny Jurgenson.
He then came to your Cleveland Browns in 1967, and Dick backed up Frank Ryan. In his one glorious season for the Browns, the ol' Pud Polisher was 3 for 9 for 34 yards, no touchdowns and 1 interception. Shiner would then be involved in the trade to Pittsburgh that netted the Browns QB Bill Nelsen, who would replace Ryan. Shiner started nine games in 1969 for the Steelers, Chuck Noll's first season in Pittsburgh as head coach.
He was traded to the NY Giants the following year after the Steelers drafted Terry Bradshaw, and then would play in Atlanta (1971-73) and finish his career in New England, retiring after the 1974 season. For his career, Shiner threw for 4801 yards with 36 touchdowns and 43 interceptions. Below is one of the craziest football cards you will ever see, a guy in a Browns uniform with a Steelers logo on the card.
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i believe it was the week after Bernie was let go. and i was on the 50 yard line center(seahawks game) and rode belichek for most of the game. and yes he was nice enough to turn around and acknowledge my boorish behavior
Love Ya Bernie
The infamous Todd Philcox game in Seattle.
Belichick wasn't well-liked here, specifically for this move, but sadly he was right about Kosar. By his fifth or sixth season, he was already in decline. By the time Bill cut him, his days as a starter were done. He was only 29.
The infamous Todd Philcox game in Seattle.
Belichick wasn't well-liked here, specifically for this move, but sadly he was right about Kosar. By his fifth or sixth season, he was already in decline. By the time Bill cut him, his days as a starter were done. He was only 29.
Bernie was always my guy. He also was a 100% BROWNS fan.
Bernie's benefits company in Boardman was next door to my doctor's office -but- he was never there ..... his dad Bernie Senior would plop his lazy butt there and figure how to get more money out of it. I never liked him. The only money Bernie ever took out was to pay for his sister's college bills .... his dad spent the rest ..... on himself..
Bernie's uncle worked at the same US Steel plant that I was at. He was an OK guy, he worked in the same department that my dad was a boss of. My dad also got my one cousin a job there in the communications department at. My dad was an electrical test engineer in charge of central power there. A real smart guy, he knew Bernie's uncle well.
US Steel in Youngstown/ McDonald had over 10,000 employees, over 15,000 at one time. When I as there a real family company ...... Intel it closed. Oh well. Nice company to work for.
Just a little Kosar family information.
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