Maybe Mangini was embarrased to announce the QB

Mark O

I'll be looking forward to it. I just hope we all can see a better performance by the offense that day.

Gips

Maybe Mangini should be ashamed to have presented the cleveland browns fans with such a boring non tactical vanilla craptastic offense which gives no real options and that was easy to stack up against and stop with even a shitty defense let alone the vikings...

This offensive gameplan is an unacceptable form of chudball and mangini and daboll need to rethink this crap or they may find cleveland a very cold place way before the ice settles across the lake...

With this offensive simplicity it doesnt matter who the qb is there is not enough of anything available to fool/trick/get them to bite options available its all easy read straight forward stuff for baby sized gains and just way to 101 to work consistantly in the nfl...

NebBrownsFan

@fairhooker11 said:
14 points off Quinn turnovers..... including that monster run by AD..

Not quite....it was 10 points.

gmp

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Or maybe you didn't watch the first part of the game. The defense wasn't the problem today

gmp

Yeah, I missed most of the game...however, I did see the highlights of Peterson throwing off defensive backs like they were wearing girlscout uniforms..

giving up 34 points at home and 3 tds to AP.... is whats, stupid dude!!...

choco

and there ya have it folks...

solid analysis from a fan that only saw highlights, and thus can offer thorough insight on the crappy defense we have.....

get this D and offense, we may finally have a team.

Mark O

@gmp said:
Yeah, I missed most of the game...however, I did see the highlights of Peterson throwing off defensive backs like they were wearing girlscout uniforms..
giving up 34 points at home and 3 tds to AP.... is whats, stupid dude!!...

Had you watched you would know that 2 tds were from 1 yard.

gmp

@mark-o said:
Had you watched you would know that 2 tds were from 1 yard.

Ahhhh,

(2) runs from in close huh...so that accountsf or 2 friggin yards...

The Vikes ran for 225 yards ....Jes*s Chr*st!!!...

your gonna tell me that they had AP under control if it wasn't for those 2 (1) yard runs!!...

WTF???????

? Masters

@gmp said:
Ahhhh,
(2) runs from in close huh...so that accountsf or 2 friggin yards...

The Vikes ran for 225 yards ....Jes*s Chr*st!!!...

your gonna tell me that they had AP under control if it wasn't for those 2 (1) yard runs!!...

WTF???????

64 of APs 180 yards came on one carry late in the 3rd QTR.

CLE stopped the run for the 1st half, then started to and ultimately fully broke in the second half.

gmp

Masters said:
64 of APs 180 yards came on one carry late in the 3rd QTR.
CLE stopped the run for the 1st half, then started to and ultimately fully broke in the second half.

Yeah,

That was his bitch slap run!!

? Masters

@gmp said:
Yeah,
That was his bitch slap run!!

It was. Of course he gets those on every D in the NFL, not just against CLE.

I'd be a little more concerned if CLE gave up a day like that to any other back in the league. We are talking about a guy who has had as big, if not bigger days against plenty of better teams than the Browns.

hammertime

A problem from last year was the ability to adjust at halftime.

You can expect a closer game with the proper adjustments.

I don't see all doom and gloom and still look forward to improving on what appears to be alot of potential on both sides of the ball.

It wasn't all that bad, Minn is a playoff team with a system in place.

YtownBrownsBacker

@hammertime said:
A problem from last year was the ability to adjust at halftime.
You can expect a closer game with the proper adjustments.

I don't see all doom and gloom and still look forward to improving on what appears to be alot of potential on both sides of the ball.

It wasn't all that bad, Minn is a playoff team with a system in place.

All the bandwagon, sky is fallin guys will jump back on board if we win next week. You'd think some of these guys thought we were going 12-4 and making a playoff run. There's a reason most NFL people and knowledgable fans know today was one of at least 8 losses to a team that simply has more talent then us.

Some wanted to open up the offense. When basics aren't working against a superior team, what is there to open up? They had to keep two TEs or a TE and back in to help keep guys off of Quinn. The right side of the line was very bad. Quinn had guys in his face all day, so how many times do they think he should have thrown downfield?

If eggs are laid against Denver and Cincy, then there is reason for major concern. But, you know that most likely we will get our asses kicked against teams like Minn, Balt, GB and Pitts.

Who expected anything more? If you did, you were dreaming.