Watson's shoulder
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Here's a quick thought. If there's a fractured bone in the shoulder I didn't really see a hit in the last game that should have caused it. If I'm wrong, that's life.
If I'm not wrong that would mean that the orthopedic team has missed that ever since Watson went out in the first place.
The doctor's name isn't Haslam is it?
WSS
I can't find the video Steve, but it's floating around here somewhere. The hit that caused the injury was pretty obvious. Watson got simultaneously sandwiched high between two Ravens defenders. He could have gotten lucky, and just gotten a broken collarbone instead.
I can't find the video Steve, but it's floating around here somewhere. The hit that caused the injury was pretty obvious. Watson got simultaneously sandwiched high between two Ravens defenders. He could have gotten lucky, and just gotten a broken collarbone instead.
Could be. If it was the announces made a lot less of it than they did talking about his ankle.
WSS
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At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
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At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
They only call it the worst in history given the allegations, people desperately want it to be.
so far it hasn’t worked out…but not because Watson isn’t a good player, just because of suspension and injury. Too early to judge
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Watson lost 11 games due to his penis, and another 11 games due to his shoulder. If this mother fucker's hemmoroids start acting up next year, we are really fucked.
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Watson lost 11 games due to his penis, and another 11 games due to his shoulder. If this mother fucker's hemmoroids start acting up next year, we are really fucked.
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
Guess he's smarter than people living in Ohio right now.?️?
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Watson lost 11 games due to his penis, and another 11 games due to his shoulder. If this mother fucker's hemmoroids start acting up next year, we are really fucked.
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
Don't be silly. He was literally giddy playing in the snow.
If DW has shown anything, it is that he absolutely loves playing football. In any weather!
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Don't be silly. He was literally giddy playing in the snow.
If DW has shown anything, it is that he absolutely loves playing football. In any weather!
Anyone would for a quarter billion...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Watson lost 11 games due to his penis, and another 11 games due to his shoulder. If this mother fucker's hemmoroids start acting up next year, we are really fucked.
You gotta remember... This pussy hates cold weather...
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At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
You're high. This trade could very well be remembered alongside the Herschel Walker, Ricky Williams, and RG3 trades.
They only call it the worst in history given the allegations, people desperately want it to be.
so far it hasn’t worked out…but not because Watson isn’t a good player, just because of suspension and injury. Too early to judge
His allegations are only relevant because it cost him a season of the contract. Watson's guaranteed money and the fact that we gave up our future to the Texans is why it will be remembered with all the trades I mentioned above. He might never be able to throw a ball again. As of right now, the guy got a quarter of a billion dollars to throw 14 TDs.
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At least this trade won't be the worst in NFL history.
David Tepper and what he's currently finding a way to do in Carolina are almost at the level of needing the Stepien Rule in the NFL.. His trade for Bryce Young by itself is worse than the Watson trade, and that's the tip of the iceberg.
You're high. This trade could very well be remembered alongside the Herschel Walker, Ricky Williams, and RG3 trades.
They only call it the worst in history given the allegations, people desperately want it to be.
so far it hasn’t worked out…but not because Watson isn’t a good player, just because of suspension and injury. Too early to judge
His allegations are only relevant because it cost him a season of the contract. Watson's guaranteed money and the fact that we gave up our future to the Texans is why it will be remembered with all the trades I mentioned above. He might never be able to throw a ball again. As of right now, the guy got a quarter of a billion dollars to throw 14 TDs.
You're high. This trade could very well be remembered alongside the Herschel Walker, Ricky Williams, and RG3 trades.
His allegations are only relevant because it cost him a season of the contract. Watson's guaranteed money and the fact that we gave up our future to the Texans is why it will be remembered with all the trades I mentioned above. He might never be able to throw a ball again.
If he gets us to the promised land in the next 3 years it’ll be regarded as the best trade ever in Cleveland
just I’d too early to make a determination, got a few years left before we can judge the outcome
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Right now, the trade for Watson stands as a very poor trade.
Roger GoToHell screwed us out of his first year with us. The arbitrator that the NFL had just hired decided that a 6 game suspension was appropriate. But Roger wanted us fucked, so he changed it to 11 games. Not a full season, so that his contract could be pushed back a year...NO, he wanted a WASTED contract year for us Browns fans. Roger GoToHell is a piece of shit.
So, this second year of his contract, Watson thinks he's going to do his Nick Chubb impersonation and run with the ball and take on tacklers. I think I've only seen him run and slide once. Ergo contract year 2 is wasted.
Now, I understand the motivation for the trade. Baker wasn't the guy to take us to a championship. I truly believed that so I understood why they did it. That was the only way to have a potentially really good QB to compete with the AFC QB's materialize in Cleveland.
We don't know what the next few years have in store for us with (or without) Watson...but we know that 40% of his contract has now been wasted with virtually nothing to show for it.
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Right now, the trade for Watson stands as a very poor trade.
Roger GoToHell screwed us out of his first year with us. The arbitrator that the NFL had just hired decided that a 6 game suspension was appropriate. But Roger wanted us fucked, so he changed it to 11 games. Not a full season, so that his contract could be pushed back a year...NO, he wanted a WASTED contract year for us Browns fans. Roger GoToHell is a piece of shit.
So, this second year of his contract, Watson thinks he's going to do his Nick Chubb impersonation and run with the ball and take on tacklers. I think I've only seen him run and slide once. Ergo contract year 2 is wasted.
Now, I understand the motivation for the trade. Baker wasn't the guy to take us to a championship. I truly believed that so I understood why they did it. That was the only way to have a potentially really good QB to compete with the AFC QB's materialize in Cleveland.
We don't know what the next few years have in store for us with (or without) Watson...but we know that 40% of his contract has now been wasted with virtually nothing to show for it.
Right now, the trade for Watson stands as a very poor trade.
Roger GoToHell screwed us out of his first year with us. The arbitrator that the NFL had just hired decided that a 6 game suspension was appropriate. But Roger wanted us fucked, so he changed it to 11 games. Not a full season, so that his contract could be pushed back a year...NO, he wanted a WASTED contract year for us Browns fans. Roger GoToHell is a piece of shit.
So, this second year of his contract, Watson thinks he's going to do his Nick Chubb impersonation and run with the ball and take on tacklers. I think I've only seen him run and slide once. Ergo contract year 2 is wasted.
Now, I understand the motivation for the trade. Baker wasn't the guy to take us to a championship. I truly believed that so I understood why they did it. That was the only way to have a potentially really good QB to compete with the AFC QB's materialize in Cleveland.
We don't know what the next few years have in store for us with (or without) Watson...but we know that 40% of his contract has now been wasted with virtually nothing to show for it.
Meaning like the worst in the history of the nfl.
WSS
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Right now, the trade for Watson stands as a very poor trade.
Roger GoToHell screwed us out of his first year with us. The arbitrator that the NFL had just hired decided that a 6 game suspension was appropriate. But Roger wanted us fucked, so he changed it to 11 games. Not a full season, so that his contract could be pushed back a year...NO, he wanted a WASTED contract year for us Browns fans. Roger GoToHell is a piece of shit.
So, this second year of his contract, Watson thinks he's going to do his Nick Chubb impersonation and run with the ball and take on tacklers. I think I've only seen him run and slide once. Ergo contract year 2 is wasted.
Now, I understand the motivation for the trade. Baker wasn't the guy to take us to a championship. I truly believed that so I understood why they did it. That was the only way to have a potentially really good QB to compete with the AFC QB's materialize in Cleveland.
We don't know what the next few years have in store for us with (or without) Watson...but we know that 40% of his contract has now been wasted with virtually nothing to show for it.
Meaning like the worst in the history of the nfl.
WSS
Meaning like the worst in the history of the nfl.
WSS
We can't say that yet. In theory there's 60% of his contract still to play out. ( Paul Warfield for Mike Phipps ?? )
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Meaning like the worst in the history of the nfl.
WSS
We can't say that yet. In theory there's 60% of his contract still to play out. ( Paul Warfield for Mike Phipps ?? )
We can't say that yet. In theory there's 60% of his contract still to play out. ( Paul Warfield for Mike Phipps ?? )
I'd rather have Mike Phipps under center today just for the record. And that trade only cost us one guy that was worthy of a first draw draft pick.
By the way I don't necessarily blame the commissioner. Yes this suspension was pretty tough but they had to deal with the me too movement. If we want to blame somebody first I blame Jimmy Haslam. No player in the history of the NFL is worth that kind of resources. Not a 21-year-old Joe Namath Otto Graham Lou Groza Dan Marino Jim Brown Joe montana; nobody. Second I blame the Houston Texans for covering it up.
WSS
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We can't say that yet. In theory there's 60% of his contract still to play out. ( Paul Warfield for Mike Phipps ?? )
I'd rather have Mike Phipps under center today just for the record. And that trade only cost us one guy that was worthy of a first draw draft pick.
By the way I don't necessarily blame the commissioner. Yes this suspension was pretty tough but they had to deal with the me too movement. If we want to blame somebody first I blame Jimmy Haslam. No player in the history of the NFL is worth that kind of resources. Not a 21-year-old Joe Namath Otto Graham Lou Groza Dan Marino Jim Brown Joe montana; nobody. Second I blame the Houston Texans for covering it up.
WSS
No player in the history of the NFL is worth that kind of resources.
Watson's contract is only the 9th total cash in the league, and 7th average. There are literally 6-8 QBs that have been valued to be worth more than DW today! The HOF'ers you mention would be making Mahomes/ Burrow/ Lamar money, which is more than Watson.
Guaranteed money is the only category where Watson leads the league. It is less relevant, because you'd better believe the other top guys are getting their full contract paid out. Mahomes will not only get his full 10 years, but will likely renegotiate more money along the way. Only possible exception is Murray, who shouldn't be making top 10 money anyway.
@orion's point are a lot more valid.
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Also most people misunderstand the browns cap situation. There was a good explainer on it, don’t know where it is off hand.
Basically Jimmy is outspending pretty much every team in the league and the way they restructure contracts lets them basically leverage the future cap, which typically is expected to increase.
it’s why the browns had the most cap space in the league or close to it this year, and they will likely also have that next year when they push more cap into the future.
The draft picks are sad to lose yea, but the money spent does not jeopardize the browns future like some people thing it does.
There was some good article that I can’t find now that went over how the browns leveraged the future cap with their restructuring strategies. Basically allows them to consistently outspend the cap, and something other NFL teams could do - why they don’t do it? Probably because their owners don’t wanna spend as much money as jimmy currently is willing to
Basically they pay the players as expected, but they can elect to spread the cap impact out over future years beyond the contract. That works as long as the nfl keeps increasing the cap ceiling (which they will)
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No player in the history of the NFL is worth that kind of resources.
Watson's contract is only the 9th total cash in the league, and 7th average. There are literally 6-8 QBs that have been valued to be worth more than DW today! The HOF'ers you mention would be making Mahomes/ Burrow/ Lamar money, which is more than Watson.
Guaranteed money is the only category where Watson leads the league. It is less relevant, because you'd better believe the other top guys are getting their full contract paid out. Mahomes will not only get his full 10 years, but will likely renegotiate more money along the way. Only possible exception is Murray, who shouldn't be making top 10 money anyway.
@orion's point are a lot more valid.
Watson's contract is only the 9th total cash in the league, and 7th average. There are literally 6-8 QBs that have been valued to be worth more than DW today! The HOF'ers you mention would be making Mahomes/ Burrow/ Lamar money, which is more than Watson.
Guaranteed money is the only category where Watson leads the league. It is less relevant, because you'd better believe the other top guys are getting their full contract paid out. Mahomes will not only get his full 10 years, but will likely renegotiate more money along the way. Only possible exception is Murray, who shouldn't be making top 10 money anyway.
@orion's point are a lot more valid.
Well there's a reason I said resources rather than guaranteed money.
It was at least the best deal in the NFL for Houston. They took home three number ones and got this bum off their roster.
WSS
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Color me pussy
Sounds like it's got chapped lips.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Color me pussy
Sounds like it's got chapped lips.
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Watson's contract is only the 9th total cash in the league, and 7th average. There are literally 6-8 QBs that have been valued to be worth more than DW today! The HOF'ers you mention would be making Mahomes/ Burrow/ Lamar money, which is more than Watson.
Guaranteed money is the only category where Watson leads the league. It is less relevant, because you'd better believe the other top guys are getting their full contract paid out. Mahomes will not only get his full 10 years, but will likely renegotiate more money along the way. Only possible exception is Murray, who shouldn't be making top 10 money anyway.
@orion's point are a lot more valid.
Well there's a reason I said resources rather than guaranteed money.
It was at least the best deal in the NFL for Houston. They took home three number ones and got this bum off their roster.
WSS
Well there's a reason I said resources rather than guaranteed money.
It was at least the best deal in the NFL for Houston. They took home three number ones and got this bum off their roster.
WSS
Keep moving the goalposts...
This """bum"""" is nowhere near the highest paid player in the league, and has all the potential to lead this Browns squad to the Superbowl. Which is exactly why he was paid, what he was paid. The Browns FO just structured it in a way that appealed to him more than the Falcons and Panthers.
The only let-downs were GoToHell going outside the rule book, and his own overzealous rushing this year!
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